Re: Haye would Steamroll Areolla
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Wlad has been KO'd by 3 lacklustre HW's and your talking as though he's invincible. I know Haye isn't invincible but I think he has the right stuff to expose Wlad and be the 4th man to KO him.
I'm not talking up Wlad like he's invincible, he definently has his flaws however NOBODY has the skill to expose them at this time.
Let's go through Wlad's losses....
Ross Purrity, Wlad was young (22) and thought he could KO everyone which he had done to all but 3 guys he had beaten up to that point. Not only was this fight the first in which Wlad had to go more than 8 rounds it was a 12 round fight! Wlad punched himself out, he didn't pace himself and part of what is to blame was his training which focused on lifting weights and cardio and almost no sparring.
Corrie Sanders, #1 Corrie is a southpaw #2 Corrie is a power puncher you don't usually fight that many southpaws and you damn sure don't fight that many power punching southpaws and pair that along with the disappointment with Lennox Lewis choosing to basically force Wlad to have a tune up fight to stay busy and Wlad wanting to make a statement he was reckless and careless and underestimated the danger that was Corrie Sanders who could have shocked ANYONE at that point in his career.
Lamon Brewster, having just changed trainers and trying too hard to impress everyone and not focusing on the task at had Wlad handed out a BEAT DOWN for 4 rounds to Lamon and honestly Wlad took some horrific shots in that fight and stayed on his feet. Wlad wasn't right mentally for the fight and wasn't really right until he fought Sam Peter because that was his "last shot" at that point in time it seemed as if he'd either beat Sam Peter or retire from boxing.
Now David Haye has shown up vs some bums and has beens and he's been floored an awful lot and he has also slept on some guys and done EXACTLY what Wlad did and punched himself out vs an old vet. Do I think Haye can beat Wlad the way Purrity and Brewster did????
HELL NO !!! Haye MAY be able to shock Wlad with a good strong combination but honestly who has landed many combinations on Wladimir recently? And does Haye's power carry up?? Sure he KO'd Barrett and Bonin but those were the expected results AND Barret floored Haye!!!! I am sorry, I just don't see David Haye as any better as Sam Peter was when Wlad fought him and now since Wlad and Manny have built a good thing and Wlad is in a good state mentally that means Haye doesn't have much of a shot especially if he can't make the jab ineffective.
Haye hasn't fought a top 10 heavyweight and already you fanboys have him beating THE MAN of the division....can we say AUDLEY HARRISON?
Haye wasn't floored off Barrett it was called a slip watch 8:42.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdtB8CZSiY
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:lolhaha: Come on now. Haye was trying to get old ass, past his prime Hasim Rahman into the ring. Whoa! Big man. His people lied and low balled JD Chapman. And never even returned Kevin Johnson's calls. Nobody avoided Haye. But Haye said people did. And being the guliable person you are. You belived him.
Like you are believing the flip side of the story? :rolleyes:
Next he'll be telling us Hatton isn't a "Big Draw" in America and that No One over there gives a f*ck about him:-X
That made me smile...
No-one gives a fuck about Hatton in America.. and yet the powers that be pay him MILLIONS to fight there ;D
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I'm supposed to be finishing off some painting but VD's posts are making me laugh too much.
He's gone all "Coolio" on us again;D
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OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me, he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?
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OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me, he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?
F*cks sakes Lyle WATCH THE FOOTAGE....
Anyone with even a 10th of ONE eyeball working can see Davids feet slide from underneath him.
You must have seen a different camera angle from Wladsasstv;D
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....he wouldn't have "slipped" if Monte didn't bounce a punch off his head. I never said Haye was hurt but you fight in an off balance manner and that type of thing is bound to happen and a guy like Wlad is going to just hammer the crap out of Haye if he continues to fight that way.
Re: Hayes would Steamroll Areolla
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Cliff Couser........:-X
The same man who also lost to Barret in what ...2 rounds.
Turn it in for f*cks sakes.
Cliff Couser.......... hahahahahahahaha;D
Yeah Barrett beat Couser in 2 rounds as well. But guess what? He should of never lost to him in the first place. :rofmaoal: I read all this shiit about Arreola being fat. Like if a body wins titles. If that was the case Louis Monaco and Michael Grant would be ATG's. Both looked like they were cut out of granite. And both didn't do shiit. Yeah Arreola is a fat fukk. But last time I checked it was Haye who had the stamina problems. I never seen Arreola tired.
Seriously it's hilarious how guliable some of you UK posters are. They provide good comedy with there comments. This one right here had me laughing for a good 2 minutes
"Haye has totally gatecrashed the division in one fight"
:lolhaha: He beat a 37 past his prime Monte Barrett. Barrett is a small heavyweight (he's the same size as Haye) and was never that good when he was in his prime. He lost every big fight he was in. And not to long ago was knocked out by career loser Cliff Couser. That's gate crashing? :lolhaha: Comedy indeed.
Laugh alone VD....
The facts are that after the Barrett fight Haye is ranked # 6 by the WBA..
# 5 by the WBC.....# 2 by the WBO.
Still think he hasn't gatecrashed the division after ONE fight VD..?
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And i only use that laughing man when it is absolutely neccessary;)
His rating as unified CW champ put him in those positions. FYI - Arreola is ranked by the soup as follows: WBC #2 (Haye 4) IBF #2 and WBO 3 (Haye 2). According to the rankings, they are pretty much equal. Actually, if you average it out, Arreola is ranked higher.
Yeah, Haye gatecrashed the division - it's called Cruiserweight, and that put him on the HW map without him doing much. I would expect Arreola to handle Monte Barrett in a similar fashion, just without getting himself knocked down in the process.
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Lyle
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rjj tszyu
OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me,
he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?
He's been knockdown by a SUPERMIDDLE too - Lolenga Mock.
You can add him to the next 100 threads this week when you mention Haye's suspect chin ;)
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beating arreola in sparring and beating him in a fight is a whole world of difference.
No offence to cristobel but i could probably run rings shadow boxing him
yet put him in the ring and let his fists do the talking and its a whole different story.
for what its worth i believe haye would batter him still!!!
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Lyle
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rjj tszyu
OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me, he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?
The fat slob Peter floored Wlad about 4 times didn't he? This thread is making me sound like I hate Wlad but that couldn't be further from the truth. I just think Lyle's love for him is making making him overrate him!
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Haye who i think has no shot v the Klits would hurt Arreola to slow and doesnt move his head he would be a sitting duck, anyway im certain Haye already beat up Areolla in sparring.
According to Henry Ramirez, Arreola's trainer, Arreola hasn't even met David Haye: Exclusive Interview With Henry Ramirez, Trainer Of Chris "The Nightmare" Arreola.
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rjj tszyu
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Lyle
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OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me, he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?
The fat slob Peter floored Wlad about 4 times didn't he? This thread is making me sound like I hate Wlad but that couldn't be further from the truth. I just think Lyle's love for him is making making him overrate him!
He floored him 3 times but only one out of those 3 knockdowns were legit.
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:lolhaha: Come on now. Haye was trying to get old ass, past his prime Hasim Rahman into the ring. Whoa! Big man. His people lied and low balled JD Chapman. And never even returned Kevin Johnson's calls. Nobody avoided Haye. But Haye said people did. And being the guliable person you are. You belived him.
Like you are believing the flip side of the story? :rolleyes:
Next he'll be telling us Hatton isn't a "Big Draw" in America and that No One over there gives a f*ck about him:-X
Can you imagine Mayweather, Pacquiao, De La Hoya or Klitschcko fighting on the Versus channel? :lolhaha:
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I figured it wouldn't be long before Haye groupies reduced themselves to straight lying. So, so sad.
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I figured it wouldn't be long before Haye groupies reduced themselves to straight lying. So, so sad.
I wouldn't call it lying! That is what we were being told and I wouldn't be surprised if it is true. A trainer isn't going to say "oh yes Haye kicked his ass"
