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Andre
Hows those bats TM?
Wont really know until spring,theyre hibernating right now,and nobody is too keen on mucking about in a hibernaculum at the moment. It could have run its course. But Id feel alot more confident about saying that if any of the experts Im friends with,could agree on what in the hell it is. Basically,we've heavily discussed and debated for close to a year now,and still arent sure if the fungus that gives the disease its name,is even the disease,or just a symptom
Sort of a life lesson for man and mankind,we're used to thinking we can figure out everything sooner or later,especially in our area of expertise,we cant even figure out what the disease actually is,let alone how to treat it
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So its a fungus? I remember you said a white powder like substance.
Has the temperature increased and effected the caves temp to trigger the growth?
whats the temps for last ten years in the area or the humidity more so, has it raised allot?
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Andre
So its a fungus? I remember you said a white powder like substance.
Has the temperature increased and effected the caves temp to trigger the growth?
whats the temps for last ten years in the area or the humidity more so, has it raised allot?
This where it gets confusing,we arent sure if the fungus is just a symptom, or the disease itself. The caves themselves havent shown a large increase in temperature. One theory is because of increased temperatures, theyre coming out of hibernation too early. The other things they get is a massive weight loss,and pneumonia. And it is notable that the big brown species doesnt seem to be getting it. Big browns are one of the few species that will snap out of hibernation in mid winter,and they dont seem to be getting it. So it could be a sign that theyre blowing their fat stores too early by coming out of hibernation too soon.
But at the end of the day,as of right now,we really dont know what it is. Alot of money has been spent to try and figure this out,and the best thing we've come up with,is decontaminate your gear after your done in there doing research,so you dont spread it.
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Has it spread far to other states or is it contained in one area Tm?
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Andre
Has it spread far to other states or is it contained in one area Tm?
Now we have touched on problem 2
In one year it spread from New England all the way to WV,so we dont know if its migratory born,or is it human contamination.
Bats will migrate a little,and could in theory pass it down the chain, but cave explorers also will hit numerous systems in a year,and in multiple states.
Now,I'll admit my expertise in the area is species identification while doing bat counts, but I find it seriously troubling that the people whose word I take as gospel usually,all disagree right now. And to make it worse,all of their theories are completely credible.
Ive caved for most of my adult life,and have been published in all the major caving publications,and Im telling you blunt, we really dont know. All we really know is the symptoms,and that the kill ratio for a bat colony can run as high as %90. There have even been reports that its jumped over to Europe,that may be alarmist,I didnt get to check the bats myself,and didnt know the people who claimed it so I cant take it on faith.
I know alot of people dont like,or are afraid of bats,its a phobia that our culture pushes. But they are amazingly beneficial little things. They eat the bug that causes most of our airborn diseases.
Im still worryed about this for obvious reasons,and Im even more worried that all of the people in the field, that know more then I do by far,cant even agree on what it is.It doesnt seem to transmit in to humans, but there are all kinds of things that mosquitos carry that can,and less bats=more mosquitos
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Pretty noisy round here. Lot of police sirens, you can pretty much hear one throughout most of the day. There always seems to be some commotion goin on. There's noise from the people who live in the flats above us on all sides, although on the plus side I live on the bottom level of the block so at least I ain't got noise comin out from underneath me ;D like everyone on all the floors above do. But yeah there's pretty much constant noise round here, it's quite weird because my gran lives out near Southampton & I find it impossible to sleep there because it's too quiet for me :-\
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Whereabouts was you from in North? I got some family in Tottenham.
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I used to live in the city where it is noisy, busy etc....
Just bought a house in the country about 2 Months ago after my Mom died.....
Gotta say I love the country...not the sticks but away from the city...a good 10 miles just to town....Quiet as a church at midnight by 7pm....people don't even lock their doors....great for my kids
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I used to live in the city where it is noisy, busy etc....
Just bought a house in the country about 2 Months ago after my Mom died.....
Gotta say I love the country...not the sticks but away from the city...a good 10 miles just to town....Quiet as a church at midnight by 7pm....people don't even lock their doors....great for my kids
I hate it whwn people say that. Daxx I'm sure it's a nice area, but with all due respect that is just a little bit ... how shall I say... ok you pick a word. At best it's asking for trouble. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone on the news say "We just never thought it would happen here". Shit of the worst kind can, and will, happen anywhere.
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DaxxKahn
I used to live in the city where it is noisy, busy etc....
Just bought a house in the country about 2 Months ago after my Mom died.....
Gotta say I love the country...not the sticks but away from the city...a good 10 miles just to town....Quiet as a church at midnight by 7pm....people don't even lock their doors....great for my kids
I hate it whwn people say that. Daxx I'm sure it's a nice area, but with all due respect that is just a little bit ... how shall I say... ok you pick a word. At best it's asking for trouble. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone on the news say "We just never thought it would happen here". Shit of the worst kind can, and will, happen anywhere.
Not saying like when they go away or something....Just unlike in the city you lock your door the second you step in the nhouse...it becomes a habit...why because it is the enviorement you are in....I grew up in NYC for 20+ years.....Here people leave their doors open in the day...Run to the store and know a neighboor is out there and if anyone not from the area comes by they will say something if they tried to enter the house...
Everyone here has dogs...most of them card carrying members of the NRA ( that part is kind of freaky).......Really is a nice place...you are going over board with my statement thinking it is like everyone here thinks it is Mayberry RFD
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DaxxKahn
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CGM
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DaxxKahn
I used to live in the city where it is noisy, busy etc....
Just bought a house in the country about 2 Months ago after my Mom died.....
Gotta say I love the country...not the sticks but away from the city...a good 10 miles just to town....Quiet as a church at midnight by 7pm....people don't even lock their doors....great for my kids
I hate it whwn people say that. Daxx I'm sure it's a nice area, but with all due respect that is just a little bit ... how shall I say... ok you pick a word. At best it's asking for trouble. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone on the news say "We just never thought it would happen here". Shit of the worst kind can, and will, happen anywhere.
Not saying like when they go away or something....Just unlike in the city you lock your door the second you step in the nhouse...it becomes a habit...why because it is the enviorement you are in....I grew up in NYC for 20+ years.....Here people leave their doors open in the day...Run to the store and know a neighboor is out there and if anyone not from the area comes by they will say something if they tried to enter the house...
Everyone here has dogs...most of them card carrying members of the NRA ( that part is kind of freaky).......Really is a nice place...you are going over board with my statement thinking it is like everyone here thinks it is Mayberry RFD
Sounds great. I'd love to live in the country, but right now it's not an option, unless I want to spend 2-3 hours a day commuting, which I would not be able to tolerate.
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CGM
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DaxxKahn
I used to live in the city where it is noisy, busy etc....
Just bought a house in the country about 2 Months ago after my Mom died.....
Gotta say I love the country...not the sticks but away from the city...a good 10 miles just to town....Quiet as a church at midnight by 7pm....people don't even lock their doors....great for my kids
I hate it whwn people say that. Daxx I'm sure it's a nice area, but with all due respect that is just a little bit ... how shall I say... ok you pick a word. At best it's asking for trouble. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone on the news say "We just never thought it would happen here". Shit of the worst kind can, and will, happen anywhere.
It's true, I lived in Kentucky for years and we never locked the door like Daxx said no one even thinks about it it's just something we never did.
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amat
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CGM
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DaxxKahn
I used to live in the city where it is noisy, busy etc....
Just bought a house in the country about 2 Months ago after my Mom died.....
Gotta say I love the country...not the sticks but away from the city...a good 10 miles just to town....Quiet as a church at midnight by 7pm....people don't even lock their doors....great for my kids
I hate it whwn people say that. Daxx I'm sure it's a nice area, but with all due respect that is just a little bit ... how shall I say... ok you pick a word. At best it's asking for trouble. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone on the news say "We just never thought it would happen here". Shit of the worst kind can, and will, happen anywhere.
It's true, I lived in Kentucky for years and we never locked the door like Daxx said no one even thinks about it it's just something we never did.
I rarely if ever lock my doors,just forget to do it,spent most of my life dealing with at least two deadbolts,so its a nice change of pace
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they aint noisy or nothing. i just hate when they throw shit in our trash can when theirs is full :mad:. but this girl that stays in the apartment across from mine is fukkin fine as hell. i must have that :p
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North Liverpool. Towards Lancashire.
Very nice and peaceful. There's a park and canal and big field behind my house. So a few families take their kids there etc to feed the ducks. School is 5 mins away. Tennis courts are 3 mins away. Train Station is 10 minutes away. Ideal spot. I love it here. Little noise as I live on a quiet estate.
20 Mins south and it's a whole different story.
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kingfrnk
they aint noisy or nothing. i just hate when they throw shit in our trash can when theirs is full :mad:. but this girl that stays in the apartment across from mine is fukkin fine as hell. i must have that :p
I used to have a guy who would steal my trash cans when I lived in the city...Funny part was he would steal them when they were full....The neighboors would see him doing it and he actually blamed it on the wheel chair guy a few buildings down....
Never understood the guy:confused:
