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as for Hatton he wasn't to willing to give Collazo a much deserved rematch...
Haye I think would fight anyone in fairness to him, Evander even though he's not a top guy anymore, I think would top the list
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Mosely is an excellent pick, I'd have him at the top of my list. Hopkins also is good.
Hatton would not be on my list though. Just for fighting PBF? It was a great payday, but nah he's not an all comers guy. Unless you want to call the other guys Floyd has thrashed all comers guys also.
Is Hopkins willing to fight Chad Dawson?
I was just going by what Hopkins has done the last few years. Give him time. Can't fight them all forever. But OK I'll bite. Has Dawson called out Hopkins?
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Mosely is an excellent pick, I'd have him at the top of my list. Hopkins also is good.
Hatton would not be on my list though. Just for fighting PBF? It was a great payday, but nah he's not an all comers guy. Unless you want to call the other guys Floyd has thrashed all comers guys also.
Is Hopkins willing to fight Chad Dawson?
I was just going by what Hopkins has done the last few years. Give him time. Can't fight them all forever. But OK I'll bite. Has Dawson called out Hopkins?
Evander would be no1 for me! He'd fight King Kong if you gave him a strap.
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as for Hatton he wasn't to willing to give Collazo a much deserved rematch...
Haye I think would fight anyone in fairness to him, Evander even though he's not a top guy anymore, I think would top the list
And has blatantly ducked Witter from around 2000/1.
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A lot of these guys being mentioned are at the backend of their careers and therefore naturally willing to accept any offer at hand.
Holyfield would happily fight both klitschko brothers at the same time tommorow morning if the money was right as i suspect many mentioned would.
Nigel Benn never ducked an opponent and was always willing to fight anyone, anytime, anywhere
Ricardo Mayorga strikes me as the kind of guy that just naturally loves to fight and win or lose is always gonna be up for the challenge
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A lot of these guys being mentioned are at the backend of their careers and therefore naturally willing to accept any offer at hand.
Holyfield would happily fight both klitschko brothers at the same time tommorow morning if the money was right as i suspect many mentioned would.
Nigel Benn never ducked an opponent and was always willing to fight anyone, anytime, anywhere
Ricardo Mayorga strikes me as the kind of guy that just naturally loves to fight and win or lose is always gonna be up for the challenge
Problem with Mayorga is he doesn't always train right for the occasion. Has true guts though!
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I think a top 5 is tough to narrow down because a lot of guys are not the best or that known but are willing to fight just about anyone. The so called feared or best at 147, 154, and 160 are Margarito, Forrest, and Pavlik. Paul Williams offered to fight all three of these fighters and all three turned it down. It wasn't the direction for Pavlik and Forrest said Williams doesn't bring enough reward. But as far as this Williams/Margarito discussion goes... well the truth is Williams offered Margarito the rematch after he couldn't cash in with a top guy like PBF or Cotto. Then offered Margarito two times after for a guarantee of $4 million, which was more than Williams himself was guaranteed to make. Both times Margarito turned it down. There was no negotiating or fight set for Margarito already. Both fighters had as clear schedule as you could as a fighter and Margarito also turned down an offer from Santos at 154. He had both guys who beat him come after HIM for an opportunity to fight again and he did not even negotiate. I am not saying Margarito is scared but he has no excuse and can now not say other fighters avoid him. Clottey even wanted the rematch and they did negotiate but it fell through. If Williams and Santos were offered by Margarito and then in turn Williams and/or Santos turned it down without even negotiating then everyone would be calling them scared and everything else in the book.
As for Williams, this guy is fighting at 3 weight classes and even went after and negotiated with Pavlik but Pavlik thought it wasn't worth enough for him. Which is fair, he went after bigger money and reward. Its not good for business to have absolutely no healthy fear but Williams tops my list as willingness to fight anyone because he really is willing to fight the best in 3 weight classes.
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I think a top 5 is tough to narrow down because a lot of guys are not the best or that known but are willing to fight just about anyone. The so called feared or best at 147, 154, and 160 are Margarito, Forrest, and Pavlik. Paul Williams offered to fight all three of these fighters and all three turned it down. It wasn't the direction for Pavlik and Forrest said Williams doesn't bring enough reward. But as far as this Williams/Margarito discussion goes... well the truth is Williams offered Margarito the rematch after he couldn't cash in with a top guy like PBF or Cotto. Then offered Margarito two times after for a guarantee of $4 million, which was more than Williams himself was guaranteed to make. Both times Margarito turned it down. There was no negotiating or fight set for Margarito already. Both fighters had as clear schedule as you could as a fighter and Margarito also turned down an offer from Santos at 154. He had both guys who beat him come after HIM for an opportunity to fight again and he did not even negotiate. I am not saying Margarito is scared but he has no excuse and can now not say other fighters avoid him. Clottey even wanted the rematch and they did negotiate but it fell through. If Williams and Santos were offered by Margarito and then in turn Williams and/or Santos turned it down without even negotiating then everyone would be calling them scared and everything else in the book.
As for Williams, this guy is fighting at 3 weight classes and even went after and negotiated with Pavlik but Pavlik thought it wasn't worth enough for him. Which is fair, he went after bigger money and reward. Its not good for business to have absolutely no healthy fear but Williams tops my list as willingness to fight anyone because he really is willing to fight the best in 3 weight classes.
Margarito was already in negotiations for both bouts when Williams camp wanted to make the fight happen...Williams also wanted the fight to happen asap....Leaving no time for anything but enter the ring......
As for the whole thing with Pavlik and Forrest you are right both had other agendas...Pavlik his thing with Hopkins in the works and Forrest with Mora a fight he figured would be more lucritive and with less risk..
But I still do not understand how people claim because these fights never materialized because Williams wanted them to at his convienience how they...Fear him....
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Here's a twist to the list. Strictly speaking on willingness to fight anyone who makes the list?
1. Paul Williams
2. Glen Johnson
3. Nate Campbell
4. Librado Andrade
5. Tomasz Adamek
This is just a list off of the top of my head. I would love to get some feedback from you guys.
Where's Margarito?
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Here's a twist to the list. Strictly speaking on willingness to fight anyone who makes the list?
1. Paul Williams
2. Glen Johnson
3. Nate Campbell
4. Librado Andrade
5. Tomasz Adamek
This is just a list off of the top of my head. I would love to get some feedback from you guys.
Where's Margarito?
He doesn't count. He wouldn't give Williams a rematch. ;D
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Here's a twist to the list. Strictly speaking on willingness to fight anyone who makes the list?
1. Paul Williams
2. Glen Johnson
3. Nate Campbell
4. Librado Andrade
5. Tomasz Adamek
This is just a list off of the top of my head. I would love to get some feedback from you guys.
Where's Margarito?
He doesn't count. He wouldn't give Williams a rematch. ;D
Funny that Williams would need Tony to give him anything after beating him afterall.Says something.;D Tony ducks no one :fight:...literally.
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Where's Margarito?
He doesn't count. He wouldn't give Williams a rematch. ;D
Funny that Williams would need Tony to give him anything after beating him afterall.Says something.;D Tony ducks no one :fight:...literally.
Oh, Tony's no scaredy cat, for sure. I'm sure I read somewhere that Williams was having a hard time finding an opponent, and Margarito wasn't really interested. Anyways, no big deal.