Margarito Suspended !!!Trainer Javier Capetillo also suspended

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

I got this off of the internet;

I am a Dental Lab Technician. I play with plaster all day long. Plaster breaks easy unless the stone is super thick. Plaster of paris comes in powder form and is mixed with water. takes about 45 minutes for plaster to set. takes 24hours to set to it maximum strength. Once plaster is set it becomes hard. However if exposed to a moist environment it will weaken and crumbles easy. That is why doctors tell the patients to not wet the cast. Now in order for Margo to use plaster in the gloves mixed with gauze, it has to be thick like more than 1/2 inch in thickness and keep it dry. No plaster used, take my word, read my lips.

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Ok you are all wonderful with your comments. It was something they used but plaster is impossible. I am telling man, plaster is not like fiberglass that you can layer very thin and still make it strong.


One article said the gauze was scratched and flakes came off it.


Another quote from boxingscene.com:

If wet plaster was indeed used, his trainer is an idiot. Wet plaster is not going to harden over 20 minutes inside of boxing gloves. Not only would it not have dried inside the glove, but as it was attempting to dry and set, every punch Tony threw would have cracked the still soft plaster. I've never experimented with loaded gloves... but summer after summer working on houses with my dad did teach me the in's and out's of plaster. No way could wet plaster have set inside gloves during the duration of a boxing match.... Over night with absolutely no sweat coming through the wraps... maybe.

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I do wet plaster work all the time, I always mix my own from a bag, there are different compounds and I usually use the stuff that hardens in 20 minutes, that gives me enough time to work it before it sets up but they also have the mixes that set up in 5 minutes to 60 minutes. Chemical reaction hardens it when mixed with water, and real plaster hardens like a rock, seal it in gauze and tape in the shape of the knuckles and it will not break apart. This is not drywall board.

These are accusations right now but if true then he should be banned and his accomplishments doubted, this is like the fight with Collins and Resto, where Resto served prison time and admitted to Collins wife later that not only did they take padding out of gloves but the wraps were also loaded with such a substance. That is how Resto was able to bust up Collins and Collins told his corner that it felt like he was getting hit with bricks between rounds. Resto's gloves were confiscated but the wraps were discarded after the fight. You can research this on google.

The tragedy of Collins and Resto, and what it could mean for Margarito

http://assets.sbnation.com/profile_i...Cobra_tiny.jpg by SC on Jan 30, 2009 4:15 AM EST in News


For anyone that thinks people that are concerned are maybe getting a bit too crazy about the Margarito wraps controversy, tell Billy Collins Sr. about it. I know I said the other day that we "didn't have to" get into this again, but maybe we do. Maybe it's best to bring up the horrible, tragic story of this infamous fight. Just under 25 years ago, his son, Billy Jr. (pictured right), died near Antioch, Tennessee, when he drove his car off of a cliff. The unbeaten prospect hadn't fought in nine months, because he couldn't fight anymore. Nine months earlier at Madison Square Garden, Collins had been beaten so severely that the injuries suffered in the fight ruined his eyesight and halted what had been a promising career.
That night in New York -- June 16, 1983 -- Collins was to face Luis Resto, a light-punching, six-year pro of little note. Resto came into the fight with a 20-8-2 record, with eight knockouts. Collins was -- and still is -- 14-0 with 11 KOs.
Resto so thoroughly battered Collins that it still strikes me as almost inhuman that Collins survived the fight without being knocked out. If you really want to see the fight, which is hard to watch, it is available online. Perhaps to truly understand the weight of the issue in the ongoing case, it has to be seen.
After the fight, Collins' dad, Billy Sr., went to shake Resto's hand, and immediately noticed something wrong. He held on to Resto's glove, as Resto tried to shake Collins' grip loose.
"All the padding's out of the goddamn glove!" the senior Collins shouted.
The New York State Athletic Commission seized the gloves, took them in for evidence, and soon enough, the verdict came back: Luis Resto and Panama Lewis were found guilty of tampering with the gloves, removing padding from each hand.
On July 1, Panama Lewis had his license revoked in the state of New York, and he never had an official role in another American fight. Resto was suspended for a year, and he never fought again.
In 1986, both Resto and Lewis were put on trial, and both were convicted of assault, conspiracy, and criminal possession of a weapon. Each man did two and a half years in prison.
Lewis to this day maintains that he didn't do anything, and that he's been banned unjustly for all these years. Resto, meanwhile, has lived rent-free in a basement of a boxing gym in New York, and after 15 years of efforts to get his license back in the state so that he could work corners, he was allowed to do so.
The former pug, now 48 years old, revealed in 2007 that not only had Lewis removed padding (and that he was aware of it), but the trainer had also soaked Resto's handwraps in plaster. The effect was, essentially, what Billy Collins Jr. reported during the fight: it was like he was being hit with bricks. The hand wraps had never even been investigated.
Resto went to the home of Collins' widow to apologize to her, saying he had been burdened by guilt for 25 years. He also admitted the full story of what had happened, including the plaster treatment of the wraps. He visited Collins' grave and said, "I'm sorry for what I did to you."
He also said it wasn't the first time that Lewis had tampered with his gloves.
Speaking with Wallace Matthews of Newsday, Billy Collins Sr. gave a rare interview yesterday. In it, he said the following:

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"Shane Mosley was a lot luckier than my son was. At least they found out before the fight. Before he got hit with anything."
"They say time heals all wounds. That's a big old lie."

About the Cotto-Margarito fight:

"I knew Margarito was doing something. Cotto was beat up worse than my son was. He was cut up all to pieces. You can't do that kind of damage with a glove."

Here's the real point when discussing this fight in comparison. It's true that right now we don't know for sure -- only the guys investigating at the CSAC, Margarito, and Capetillo know for sure.
But if it comes back as bad as we can fear, Margarito will likely be finished. Capetillo will likely be finished. And it might be years -- decades, even -- before we ever know the full story, if we ever really do.
Again, I hate this story. I wish we could all just move on and talk about what else is going on in the sport, and praise Shane Mosley for his win, and keep moving forward. But this is going to cloud the entire sport until February 10, when the CSAC holds its hearing.

The link below shows the story and a picture of Collins, I believe there are other links from the site

The tragedy of Collins and Resto, and what it could mean for*Margarito - Bad Left Hook

Hey i have to say that this was a really good and complete arguement that i ever heard about this crime , that means that we can say that this history is a jurisprudence of Margaros case .................Is sad........:(

Good Post Stebs........