No it didnt a thought made you do it. ;D.
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No it didnt a thought made you do it. ;D.
Apples and oranges. An eye is something we can show evolving in various species today. We can clearly see how it evolved. The structures that are the remains of our tails are present in tailed animals and primates like monkeys (which we share 97+% of our DNA with) but they still have a tail attached. Why would a creator bother giving us a coxxyx if he wasn't going to give us a tail?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by Lyle
This kind of 'evidence' when presented really annoys me. It's basically no stronger an argument than a creationist highlighting the complexity of an eyeball and all its component parts and saying it must have had a designer. Apparently that is to be rejected as mere conjecture and wishful thinking but evolutionists are allowed to look at parts of the human body in the same way and see in an appendix for example a vestigial organ that is evidence of our monkey days.
If creationists arn't allowed to use the idea of irreducibale complexity as evidence for a designer then how is it logically consistent for an evolutionist to use their own interperetations of what's vestigial or not as evidence for evolution.
....a thought which evolved from my thumbs ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
They say it took 3,000,000 years to evolve to its present form. Now thats interesting.
What can I say, I use the microwave (without the door closed) a ton and I'm just plain faster than everyone elseQuote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Attenborough was interviewed today and I think the purpose of the documentary was revealed. Creationism is on the rise in America and has been for many years now, and is seemingly growing over here.
It's a propoganda piece in reality, a nice opportunity to present for humanists to present their evolution as fact under the guise of science.
BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Attenborough on Darwin and creationism
I'd say intelligent design is on the rise. I'm not so sure about "traditional" creationism.
The bible is now a bit of a mess, cause it no longer mentions reincarnation or ascension; as if you got only one quick go at getting it right :rolleyes:.Otherwise the God of LOVe will burn your ass. ;Dsee the contradiction,dont judge,only love etc etc.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
It also has had the ancient scriptures withheld that state that you are in a spiritual evolutionary state and that your ascension is up to you.
Pricks (main church) changed it around so that you got to give your chance up to him, (Christ) through them $ and they get to say if you go on or not. Bulsh!t :mad: we are not all going down, they are all staying down for holding others back like sheep throughout the ages.
Science can fight religion and visa versa,Good thing they do, they are both looking out of opposite eyes if they didnt have each other to pick on who knows history could repeat and the Churches would be out judging others and condemming us to death again.:mad:
Spirit,mind,body. 1, 2 ,3. Thats the order.
Science and 98% of religions are stuck in the last two and dont live or act out of the first; Where as the first should come first, so that the mind and body serve the Greater spirit.
The reverse has occured so its anti life force;Anti Christ ,their light bodies dont spin at the correct rate and shrink,some stop,some can actually start to spin in reverse to what they should (dark energy), keeps them completly insane and beliving only in their own and others minds. Ego mind then wins ,spirit (feelings) die off, real love and compassion find it harder to grow in that ground. Thats the reaping and sowing the ancients talk about.
Funny you should say that ,thats exactly what annoys others about the good book and people taking everything in it for gospel, instead of seeing that heaven is here right in front of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboYeah but the difference is that the humanists are allowed to present their religion as truth and factual when in fact there is nothing factual about evolution. It is as much a faith belief system as belief in intelligent design. That's what annoys me.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterRight.. because no god sqaud merchant, of any religion, ever gets to air their beliefs in the media? :scratchchin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
If you belive that scripture from the bible; then logically the answers obviously are right here under our noses too.
At least scientists are the ones searching, not just accepting the rest of the stuff written down in it to the detriment of the thread of truth that can also be found within these ancient texts.
Absoluatly.
Some words of Joseph Campbell...
"Mythology is often thought of as 'other peoples' religions ... Religion can be defined as mis-interpreted mythology"
"However the mystic traditions differ, they are in accord in this respect. They call men and women into a deeper awareness of the very act of living itself, and they guide us through trials and traumas from birth to death."
"People say that what we're all seeking is a meaning for life. I don't think that's what we're really seeking. I think what we're seeking is an experience of being alive, so that our life experiences on the purely physical plane will have resonance within our own innermost being and reality, so that we actually feel the rapture of being alive. That's what it's all finally about."
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
What do you mean under the guise of science, evolution is science, it is a theory that has been scrutinised and tested by scientist for years and years, the latest technology is used to keep testing and scrutinising. The theory can change and evolve as we learn more some will agree and some will disagree but evidence it brought forward and questioned
Unlike religion that says here are all the answers are placed in one book and if you question any of them or you will burn in hell
Do you honestly believe they should teach Noah's ark in science class ?
Interestingly, scientist delve in fact, to my cost I know this. I new or thought I knew a scientific Fact that would bring sport forward, the test over ten years have been stringent to say the least and cost a small fortune. Nothing today gets through unless its fact, and thats a FACT :rolleyes:
Evolution has been very conclusively proven, even more so with the recent advances in genetic technology. I think that knocks creationism on the head pretty well ...... but people can and will believe in what they want (there are creation myths in every culture and many people do believe them.)
Good luck to them.
Shame on them for trying to teach a belief as fact in schools though.
Intelligent design seems to just be a prevaricating response to the disproving of the creation myth though? Isn't it just a convenient twisting of belief to fit around or avoid facts?
People get really het up about all this stuff though -so no offence to anyone who is either a scientific or religious fanatic out there. ;)
Incidentally, I went to the same school as Charles Darwin - not a lot of people know that.
Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.