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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
This is what we want in the division.It's a really hard division for the fighters themselves but nevertheless it should be a good fight with plenty of trading punches.I understand there only a few boxers at that weight in the uk but we need more fights boardcasted in the division so that it helps put a shining light on the division.It'll do no harm in supporting fighters like these!!!;)
That fight means absolutely nothing in relation to this fight. Completely different styles. Vic has good power and he's improved his skills, but Arce hits harder than Nonito and Vic still leaves himself open enough for Arce to be able to land. Arce also takes a punch pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratVic knocked out Mijares who had dominated Arce and Mijares was a southpaw...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThe southpaws Arce has fought, fight nothing like Darchinyan. There movers. Darchinyan ain't no mover. Darchinyan has always gone into a fight knowing he's the stronger fighter. That's not the case this time. Arce unlike other Darchinyan opponents can punch. Arce also has the bigger heart. He's been hurt and has come back to win a fight. Darchinyan has never shown he can come back from adversity. Arce is the wrong fighter to try for the first fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
This fight has bloodbath all over it.
Vic is riding high of his excellent performance against Mijares. I'm not taking anything away from him, but personally I think Mijares was a bit weight drained in that fight. He looked like crap before the weigh-in and he's now moving up to 118. Vic did not face the same version of Mijares.
This is going to be a lot like Mosley/Margo. Everybody was high Margo because of the Cotto win and they didn't give Shane a chance because all the could think about is Margo beating Cotto and Cotto beating Mosley. How did that one work out. It doesn't help that Vic is so completely arrogant that thinks he only lost to Nonito because of a lucky punch.
Arce will catch him eventually, and Vic will go to sleep. Then I will laugh.
The old weight drained excuse? Mijares looked perfectly fine til Vic caught him then he looked 'weight drained'?Quote:
Originally Posted by RozzySeanThat fight means absolutely nothing in relation to this fight. Completely different styles. Vic has good power and he's improved his skills, but Arce hits harder than Nonito and Vic still leaves himself open enough for Arce to be able to land. Arce also takes a punch pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratVic knocked out Mijares who had dominated Arce and Mijares was a southpaw...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
This fight has bloodbath all over it.
Vic is riding high of his excellent performance against Mijares. I'm not taking anything away from him, but personally I think Mijares was a bit weight drained in that fight. He looked like crap before the weigh-in and he's now moving up to 118. Vic did not face the same version of Mijares.
This is going to be a lot like Mosley/Margo. Everybody was high Margo because of the Cotto win and they didn't give Shane a chance because all the could think about is Margo beating Cotto and Cotto beating Mosley. How did that one work out. It doesn't help that Vic is so completely arrogant that thinks he only lost to Nonito because of a lucky punch.
Arce will catch him eventually, and Vic will go to sleep. Then I will laugh.
I guess Vic was weight drained when Nonito KO'd him cos he went straight up???
Nah, it's more that Darchinyan's chin ain't really that goodQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleThe old weight drained excuse? Mijares looked perfectly fine til Vic caught him then he looked 'weight drained'?Quote:
Originally Posted by RozzySeanThat fight means absolutely nothing in relation to this fight. Completely different styles. Vic has good power and he's improved his skills, but Arce hits harder than Nonito and Vic still leaves himself open enough for Arce to be able to land. Arce also takes a punch pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Vic is riding high of his excellent performance against Mijares. I'm not taking anything away from him, but personally I think Mijares was a bit weight drained in that fight. He looked like crap before the weigh-in and he's now moving up to 118. Vic did not face the same version of Mijares.
This is going to be a lot like Mosley/Margo. Everybody was high Margo because of the Cotto win and they didn't give Shane a chance because all the could think about is Margo beating Cotto and Cotto beating Mosley. How did that one work out. It doesn't help that Vic is so completely arrogant that thinks he only lost to Nonito because of a lucky punch.
Arce will catch him eventually, and Vic will go to sleep. Then I will laugh.
I guess Vic was weight drained when Nonito KO'd him cos he went straight up???
At 10:00 on Showtime tonight they are replaying Vic smootching the canvas vs.Donaire :fight:.My first instinct thinking on this one for a while is to call it a Vic KO,all B.S aside....the man kicked the shite out of Mijares in impressive fashion.Of course,Mijares Imo fought a dumb,dumb fight.It was obvious that his game was to keep Vic turning,tripping over his own feet,box and move in combination aware of Vics awkward inevitable bombs.Instead,he stood there,had some moments but walked to Vic with that goofy smirk on his face.Dude was torched.
I do think Arce could land often and is deeply,deeply seasoned.Will not be phased by Vic,his enormous ego and love of self but years are evident on Arce.At the end of the day...I just think Vic is too strong and on a rebound,I think he'll be more active than usual and Arce will be forced to stand still after a while...finding an inviting target but leaving himself there as well for big awkward shots that will only accumlilate.If Im wrong,I'll be dancing on the roof ;D.Vic has some big power & talent but DAMN the dude is a giant prick!
When is Darchinyan gonna get some respect?
When he destroyed Kirilov I read that it was not the old Kirilov he fought...
Now Mijares was weight drained? Give me a break!
Sure Darchinyan go knocked out by Donaire but imo he is one of those fighters where a loss his improved him as a fighter. Mijares couldn't do anything because Darchinyan didn't let him! From the 1st round. I don't know if anyone else agrees but Vic reminded me of Johnny Tapia the way he was counter punching in that fight!
I actually fear for Arce's safety in this fight! Thats how one sided I think its gonna be!!!
I wont disagree with that. He got beat plaiin and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseNah, it's more that Darchinyan's chin ain't really that goodQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleThe old weight drained excuse? Mijares looked perfectly fine til Vic caught him then he looked 'weight drained'?Quote:
Originally Posted by RozzySean
I guess Vic was weight drained when Nonito KO'd him cos he went straight up???
If i was the usual fanboy on here i'd say he got KO'd cos he was weakened due to weight issues.....:rolleyes:
Look at all of Darchinyan's big wins. All against fighters who can't punch. You think that's a coincidence? Nope. They know his chin is weak. There taking the Arce fight now, cuz they think Arce is that far gone. Bad mistakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I think people are making picks on this fight based off each fighters performances against Mijares. Gotta remember styles make fights. Arce isn't going anywhere, I think whoever is going backwards in this fight will be the loser.
You are right that the Donaire fight improved Vic. He went back to school and learned a few things. Had that version of Vic fought Arce from that time, Vic might have been sent to early retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I'll give Vic his credit for improvement, and it will have this from being a one-sided beatdown for Arce. It should be a competitive fight, but like No Contest said, whoever goes backward loses. We'll know pretty soon what the end result will be. If Darchinyan starts to move backwards and try to play slick counterpunch (because he's an arrogant bastard and thinks he can), he's getting KTFO.
Thought id bump this as its on tonight.
For all you Arce fanciers hes a pretty hefty 10/3 at a lot of bookies. Obviously Darchinyan is pretty fancied here.
Mosley was 3:1 underdog to Margarito. Bookies handicap based on where the all the money is going, not where the smart money is going.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_C
Fwiw I dont know anything about either of these fighters (dont tend to follow the little guys) but you dont get odds as slim as 1/4 for Darchinyan unless the bookies think hes the much more likely to win. Obviously that doesnt mean he will definitely win or anything like that (or that they are always correct with their judgement) but regardless of where money has gone, the bookies fancy Darchinyan.
I was just highlighting the nice odds for those of you who like Arce for the win as it seems a few do.