Re: "Hatton's Last Fight with Malignaggi breakdown"
Many predicted PAC-Hatton will end inside 9 rounds... and the winner will be PAC via KO/TKO...
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Re: "Hatton's Last Fight with Malignaggi breakdown"
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OumaFan
Am I the only one who saw this part of it "Maliignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was" :confused:
I guess you and I are the only ones. IMO, Malignaggi was never the same after he got beat up by a one handed Cotto. I guess this is why I did not make such a big deal about Hatton beating Malignaggi. In short, Malignaggi was exposed, has soft hands and what else can you say about the kid?
I did not think much of the Lazcano fight either.
Styles make fights ;D
I am still picking PacMan to win. It might not be that one sided fight I am hoping it will be but none the less, I will pick the under dog ;D Right? PacMan is the underdog here, yes?
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Danny_G
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Originally Posted by
OumaFan
Am I the only one who saw this part of it "Maliignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was" :confused:
I guess you and I are the only ones. IMO, Malignaggi was never the same after he got beat up by a one handed Cotto. I guess this is why I did not make such a big deal about Hatton beating Malignaggi. In short, Malignaggi was exposed, has soft hands and what else can you say about the kid?
I did not think much of the Lazcano fight either.
Styles make fights ;D
I am still picking PacMan to win. It might not be that one sided fight I am hoping it will be but none the less, I will pick the under dog ;D Right? PacMan is the underdog here, yes?
Maybe Pac could do a Margarito against Cotto.
An underdog, yet knocked Cotto the FUCKK out!!! :lolhaha:
Though I seriousley doubt Hatton getting beat like Michelle Cotta did, who basically just quit like a true biatch.
Re: "Hatton's Last Fight with Malignaggi breakdown"
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ono
What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.
Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.
Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).
So yeah, good post :rolleyes:
Dlh wasn't weight drained at all that fight he was just slim from eating kangaroo meat. He was floating around 145lbs during his training as seen on 24/7. A weight drained fighter has to lose extra poundage on the day of the weigh-in. In his case he was not, even ricky mentioned in sentana sports Dlh looked fabulous in the weigh-in. looks hydrated pretty well during the weigh-in.
But if you ask me which is a bigger hindrance, depends really how much he has to lose on the day of the weigh-in. But fighting with 1 hand in boxing is like playing basketball or golf with one hand. You just can't play good. Hence, having a 1 handed fighter is like fighting a novice really. Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.
Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton;D
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leftylee
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Originally Posted by
Danny_G
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Originally Posted by
OumaFan
Am I the only one who saw this part of it "Maliignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was" :confused:
I guess you and I are the only ones. IMO, Malignaggi was never the same after he got beat up by a one handed Cotto. I guess this is why I did not make such a big deal about Hatton beating Malignaggi. In short, Malignaggi was exposed, has soft hands and what else can you say about the kid?
I did not think much of the Lazcano fight either.
Styles make fights ;D
I am still picking PacMan to win. It might not be that one sided fight I am hoping it will be but none the less, I will pick the under dog ;D Right? PacMan is the underdog here, yes?
Maybe Pac could do a Margarito against Cotto.
An underdog, yet knocked Cotto the FUCKK out!!! :lolhaha:
Though I seriousley doubt Hatton getting beat like Michelle Cotta did, who basically just quit like a true biatch.
Tony needed PLASTER to beat Cotto.
Manny will not need any plaster to beat the pink off of Hatton. Hatton will be forced to quit on his stool or get knocked the phuk out by a midget.
;)
Re: "Hatton's Last Fight with Malignaggi breakdown"
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ono
What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.
Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.
Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).
So yeah, good post :rolleyes:
Paulie did not break his hand against Cotto, it was the other way around. Cotto broke his hand on Paulies face in the 5th. It was a decent beat down considering Cotto broke his hand and came in looking like death himself from dehydration.
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JonnyFolds
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Spoon23
Mate don't you understand simple english?? I said even if you tell me he was weight drained or better yet oscar saying his in his best form but he really was 'not'. They both where coming in the ring handicapped. Pac coming up 17 lbs and Dlh coming dwn to 147. So both fighters met halfway. 'Even steven' comprende?? Don't think you would understand, but at least i tried to squeeze some more intellect in that brain of yours. Cheers!!
I'm sorry, but if you told one guy to gain 17 lbs if he felt like it, and told another guy to lose 17 lbs, that does not make it an even fight.
That's the worst logic I have even heard.
Mate its not like pacman was used to that weight '147' He jumped 17 lbs that is a feat in in itself. That's Henry armstrong category bro. Manny started @ 112 and fought dlh @ 147 Knowing that fighting Dlh at 147 still not an even match even 'if' he was weight drained. Fact Hatton even said Dlh looked good in the scales the day before the fight making the betting odds for Dlh. You see its just how manny dismantled Dlh. If it was lesser fighter, Dlh would have survived like how he did with steve forbes. Larry Merchant even mentioned its not the age but the style that did it for Oscar. Manny was simply the better man. Even in sentana sports, Hatton said 'brilliant' so many times. Manny was just that good on that night. The commentator said every fighter preps up for a fight. A weight drained fighter means he has to shell out a lot of pounds of the day of the weigh-in. That wasn't the case for oscar he was floating around 145 lbs during training as seen on 24/7. So he didn't have to lose weight during the weight-in. He was really slim from eating kangaroo meat. There you go.
Well put. I totally agree with you. As I have been saying, DLH did not have a problem going down in weight. Many may not agree with me but I would attribute Pac's win over DLH to his style and speed. Saying that it was because DLH was weight-drained is total disrespect for Pac's talent.
I see no reason to debate with people who doesn't know how to give respect where it is due.;)
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ono
Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.
Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton;D
Hatton would of stopped him but Paulie held on to Hatton round after round and was getting away with it.
Alot of people were saying Paulie had the style to beat Hatton.
Re: "Hatton's Last Fight with Malignaggi breakdown"
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Spoon23
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Originally Posted by
ono
What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.
Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.
Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).
So yeah, good post :rolleyes:
Dlh wasn't weight drained at all that fight he was just slim from eating kangaroo meat. He was floating
around 145lbs during his training as seen on 24/7. A weight drained fighter has to lose extra poundage on the day of the weigh-in. In his case he was not, even ricky mentioned in sentana sports Dlh looked fabulous in the weigh-in. looks hydrated pretty well during the weigh-in.
But if you ask me which is a bigger hindrance, depends really how much he has to lose on the day of the weigh-in. But fighting with 1 hand in boxing is like playing basketball or golf with one hand. You just can't play good. Hence, having a 1 handed fighter is like fighting a novice really. Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.
Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton;D
Dude! you are embarrassing yourself...
Weight has a lot to do with body type & age. Ocsar was more 'natural' at 160/154 for his size a maturity. The advantage Pacquiao had going into the fight is that Oscar would have to be 'weight drained' to step into the ring at 147. At 35 years of age he needed the body fat to draw energy from. The intensity level and stress leading up to the fight looks like it wreaked havoc on Oscar. His nutritionist fuked up and left Oscar with no energy for the fight. He's what 2% body fat? 4% to 6% is a proper number for a guy in his prime.
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fan johnny
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Spoon23
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Originally Posted by
ono
What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.
Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.
Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).
So yeah, good post :rolleyes:
Dlh wasn't weight drained at all that fight he was just slim from eating kangaroo meat. He was floating
around 145lbs during his training as seen on 24/7. A weight drained fighter has to lose extra poundage on the day of the weigh-in. In his case he was not, even ricky mentioned in sentana sports Dlh looked fabulous in the weigh-in. looks hydrated pretty well during the weigh-in.
But if you ask me which is a bigger hindrance, depends really how much he has to lose on the day of the weigh-in. But fighting with 1 hand in boxing is like playing basketball or golf with one hand. You just can't play good. Hence, having a 1 handed fighter is like fighting a novice really. Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.
Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton;D
Dude! you are embarrassing yourself...
Weight has a lot to do with body type & age. Ocsar was more 'natural' at 160/154 for his size a maturity. The advantage Pacquiao had going into the fight is that Oscar would have to be 'weight drained' to step into the ring at 147. At 35 years of age he needed the body fat to draw energy from. The intensity level and stress leading up to the fight looks like it wreaked havoc on Oscar. His nutritionist fuked up and left Oscar with no energy for the fight. He's what 2% body fat? 4% to 6% is a proper number for a guy in his prime.
Ricky Hatton was in the weigh-in for Delahoya vs pacman. And during the fight he clearly said I thought Dlh looked fabulous during the weigh-in. So he wasn't dehydrated coming from your famous country man.
And dehydrated means lack of water in the body. Should look pail and gaunt. Didn't happen in the weigh-in Dlh looked good. At the fight when he was walking to the ring to fight he was "sweating" which is a sign that he is very much hydrated.
Your the one embarrassing yourself for telling me He was dehydrated, the correct term to use for Dlh is he was 'malnourished'. He was on the wrong diet plan. Which people having been blaming his nautritionist for his weight, but to say his dehydrated is FALSE. So their you go.
So knowing Pac started his carreer@ 112lbs reaching 147lbs to fight Dlh, and Dlh who fought @154 in his last fight, fought with steve forbes. then had to go down to147lbs to fight Pacman. I believe even if dlh was malnourished (which his not) going down to 147. Pac started 2008 @ 130lbs and previous to that, fought at 126lbs in 2007. And pac started his career at 112lbs. Knowing those facts he had to go up to 147lbs to fight dlh. I think even if dlh wasn't his best. They were both handicapped, even more so for pacman than him. So just for argument sake, they were evenly handicaped going in the fight. Both had to sacrifice something for the fight to happen. Dlh had the best trainer angelo dundee nacho, best nutritionist, best camp sight. He had everything going for him. Its just a matter of who will show up best in the fight. Lets just say they were evenly handicapped even more pronounced for pacman. I believe the guy who won deserved to win. The best man won that fight that night. Even Dlh said that after the fight, dundee, merchant and nacho even said his speed is too much. Why can't you give credit to what pac has accomplish. Nway. peace;)
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fan johnny
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Spoon23
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Originally Posted by
ono
What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.
Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.
Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).
So yeah, good post :rolleyes:
Dlh wasn't weight drained at all that fight he was just slim from eating kangaroo meat. He was floating
around 145lbs during his training as seen on 24/7. A weight drained fighter has to lose extra poundage on the day of the weigh-in. In his case he was not, even ricky mentioned in sentana sports Dlh looked fabulous in the weigh-in. looks hydrated pretty well during the weigh-in.
But if you ask me which is a bigger hindrance, depends really how much he has to lose on the day of the weigh-in. But fighting with 1 hand in boxing is like playing basketball or golf with one hand. You just can't play good. Hence, having a 1 handed fighter is like fighting a novice really. Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.
Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton;D
Dude! you are embarrassing yourself...
Weight has a lot to do with body type & age. Ocsar was more 'natural' at 160/154 for his size a maturity. The advantage Pacquiao had going into the fight is that Oscar would have to be 'weight drained' to step into the ring at 147. At 35 years of age he needed the body fat to draw energy from. The intensity level and stress leading up to the fight looks like it wreaked havoc on Oscar. His nutritionist fuked up and left Oscar with no energy for the fight. He's what 2% body fat? 4% to 6% is a proper number for a guy in his prime.
"The kid was in great shape. So he wasn’t the winner that night. That is the way I put it. There are no excuses, nothing. The better fighter that night won, Manny Pacquiao." Angelo Dundee
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Danny_G
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leftylee
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Danny_G
I guess you and I are the only ones. IMO, Malignaggi was never the same after he got beat up by a one handed Cotto. I guess this is why I did not make such a big deal about Hatton beating Malignaggi. In short, Malignaggi was exposed, has soft hands and what else can you say about the kid?
I did not think much of the Lazcano fight either.
Styles make fights ;D
I am still picking PacMan to win. It might not be that one sided fight I am hoping it will be but none the less, I will pick the under dog ;D Right? PacMan is the underdog here, yes?
Maybe Pac could do a Margarito against Cotto.
An underdog, yet knocked Cotto the FUCKK out!!! :lolhaha:
Though I seriousley doubt Hatton getting beat like Michelle Cotta did, who basically just quit like a true biatch.
Tony needed
PLASTER to beat Cotto.
Manny will not need any plaster to beat the pink off of Hatton. Hatton will be forced to quit on his stool or get knocked the phuk out by a midget.
;)
I agree =)