Re: Refs who stop fights to early : The most annoying thing in boxing ?
Beathavaen Scotland was a classic example of too long. It was horrible and everyone was saying "stop it, stop it" but it was too late. Another example was Oscar Diaz against Golden Johnson. Good God, what part of white towel didn't Oscar's corner know? The most dangerous situation in boxing is when you have a ref who pulls the plug too slowly coupled with a corner that is too brave for its own good. That combo can spell disaster.
Re: Refs who stop fights to early : The most annoying thing in boxing ?
Paret-Emile anyone???
One fight that is always creepy for me to see is Ike vs. Jack II, when Ike lands about 25 free shots before the ref. waives it off. At one point Ike Williams stops throwing punches and turns to the ref. almost saying "Aren't you gonna stop it?" ref. doesn't do anything so Ike continues to land another 4 free shots until the jackass ref. jumps in to waive it off.
Which reminds me Ike Williams is possibly the most underrated and unapreciated boxer ever.
Re: Refs who stop fights to early : The most annoying thing in boxing ?
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Watched this a few times.Difficult to call. Maybe we should change the quistion.
A fight should be stopped when a fighter is deemed "unable to protect himself"
Did cook look unable to protect himself when he got up?
He looked ok to continue to me.And this is hardly one of them Cotto VS Gomes match-ups.I'd give the champ a proper chance to defend his title
If your down for two 9 counts in a row,you are unable to protect yourself
No you arent
Marquez stumbled up to 2 very lazy larthargic 8 counts
Buster Douglas barely made the 10 count and was all over the place
Eubank was completely gone against watson and even at 8 was all over the place
Benn needed a good 20 seconds to climb himself through the ropes and back into the ring to knock out gerald mcClellan
Theres no mercy rule in a sport such as boxing, the only time a fighter should not be allowed to continue is if the ref feels he is completely unable to protect himself!!!
Yes, you are,he barely made the count twice within seconds,and the second time he landed face down.That is not a fighter in a position to continue
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Paret-Emile anyone???
One fight that is always creepy for me to see is Ike vs. Jack II, when Ike lands about 25 free shots before the ref. waives it off. At one point Ike Williams stops throwing punches and turns to the ref. almost saying "Aren't you gonna stop it?" ref. doesn't do anything so Ike continues to land another 4 free shots until the jackass ref. jumps in to waive it off.
Which reminds me Ike Williams is possibly the most underrated and unapreciated boxer ever.
You want creepy. How about Duran-Moore. The imbecilic ref suffered from brain paralysis. Some write at ring side had to go in there and stop the slaughter. Moore would have been killed for sure.IMO
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Re: Refs who stop fights to early : The most annoying thing in boxing ?
Re: Refs who stop fights to early : The most annoying thing in boxing ?
Man those two referees were lucky they didnt have a more serious outcome to those fight.
Diabolical officiating
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That Moore drubbing was savage.Thought to be somewhat of a 'crossroads' fight...at the time....with Duran a underdog.WHOOPS :shinner:,Moore was very much out of his depth.
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That Moore drubbing was savage.Thought to be somewhat of a 'crossroads' fight...at the time....with Duran a underdog.WHOOPS :shinner:,Moore was very much out of his depth.
Moore wasn't out of his depth, he was good , don't let his short career fool you. But he was seriously handicapped by the eye injury.
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Shit, that Duran-Moore fight was brutal :o:-\
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Paret-Emile anyone???
One fight that is always creepy for me to see is Ike vs. Jack II, when Ike lands about 25 free shots before the ref. waives it off. At one point Ike Williams stops throwing punches and turns to the ref. almost saying "Aren't you gonna stop it?" ref. doesn't do anything so Ike continues to land another 4 free shots until the jackass ref. jumps in to waive it off.
Which reminds me Ike Williams is possibly the most underrated and unapreciated boxer ever.
You want creepy. How about Duran-Moore. The imbecilic ref suffered from brain paralysis. Some write at ring side had to go in there and stop the
slaughter. Moore would have been killed for sure.IMO
I've been known to stand up and yell at the ref to stop a fight. :-\ I love a good fight but jesus I don't want to see anyone unable to defend themselves like some street mugging.
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It's watching fights like that that make me think twice about boxing, I absolutely love the sport and don't know what I'd do without it but, seeing Moore there getting buggered wasn't nice to watch at all. Think someone earlier mentioned the Paret fight, really hard to watch that, even without knowing his death was a consequence.
It is annoying when fights are stopped early, but I'd much rather someone get robbed of a decision than get needlessly damaged in a sport where safety is paramount.
When you're the ref, and the fighters lives are in your hands, sometimes the decision of when or when not to stop is not so black n white.
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A flash knockdown,or a nose bleed,you dont stop the fight,but a guy goes down twice in 30 seconds,and the second time face first,that would be a good time for it.
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GARCIA-BENTON: .
DURAN-MOORE:
COONEY-NORTON AND MERCER MORRISON: Grouped together because they were officated by the same offical, Tony Perez.
Kinchen-Ramos-horrible
Re: Refs who stop fights to early : The most annoying thing in boxing ?
Arthur Mercante Jr. let Diobelys Hurtado take eleven straight shots from Pernell Whitaker while he was caught in the ropes before he stopped the fight. Awful.