Re: Inappropriate comments by Teddy Atlas
	
	
		WBO is pretty legit belt imo.  There are fighters that we call "real champion" and "paper champ".  I guess it all depends on which fighter holding it.
	 
	
	
	
		Re: Inappropriate comments by Teddy Atlas
	
	
		Whether the wbo is a title or not, there De La Hoya still isn't even a 10x titleist; let alone 10 time champion. Look at his record
Oscar De La Hoya
Teddy Atlas was right to call bull shit.
	 
	
	
	
		Re: Inappropriate comments by Teddy Atlas
	
	
		
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				Originally Posted by 
Lance Uppercut
				
			 
			Whether the wbo is a title or not, there De La Hoya still isn't even a 10x titleist; let alone 10 time champion. Look at his record
Oscar De La Hoya
Teddy Atlas was right to call bull shit.
 
			
		
	 
 #1 Jimmy Bredahl, WBO Jr. Lightweight
#2 Jorge Paez, WBO Lightweight
#3 Rafael Ruelas, IBF Lightweight (unified WBO/IBF)
#4 Julio Cesar Chavez, WBC Jr. Welterweight
#5 Pernell Whitaker, WBC Welterweight
#6 WBC Welterweight (he was re-instated as the WBC before the 1st Mosley fight, it's bullshit but it happened)
#7 Javier Castillejo, WBC Jr.Middleweight
#8 Fernando Vargas, WBA Jr. Middleweight (unified WBC/WBA)
#9 Felix Sturm, WBO Middleweight (bullshit but so many others have bullshit titles as well)
#10 Ricardo Mayorga, WBC Jr. Middleweight
	 
	
	
	
		Re: Inappropriate comments by Teddy Atlas
	
	
		
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				Originally Posted by 
ElTerribleMorales
				
			 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
Lance Uppercut
				
			 
			Whether the wbo is a title or not, there De La Hoya still isn't even a 10x titleist; let alone 10 time champion. Look at his record
Oscar De La Hoya
Teddy Atlas was right to call bull shit.
 
			
		
	 
 #1 Jimmy Bredahl, WBO Jr. Lightweight
#2 Jorge Paez, WBO Lightweight
#3 
Rafael Ruelas, IBF Lightweight (unified WBO/IBF) 
			
		
	 
 He was already the WBO light weight champion, you cant count that has a new title reign. Otherwise, that would have made Mike Tyson a 3 time heavyweight champion by the time he was 21. 
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ElTerribleMorales
				
			 
			#4 Julio Cesar Chavez, WBC Jr. Welterweight
#5 Pernell Whitaker, WBC Welterweight
#6 WBC Welterweight (he was re-instated as the WBC before the 1st Mosley fight, it's bullshit but it happened)
			
		
	 
 What? how is that supposed to count as a different title reign?
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ElTerribleMorales
				
			 
			#7 Javier Castillejo, WBC Jr.Middleweight
#8 Fernando Vargas, WBA Jr. Middleweight (unified WBC/WBA)
			
		
	 
 Once again, counting unification as 2 different title reigns.
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ElTerribleMorales
				
			 
			#9 Felix Sturm, WBO Middleweight (bullshit but so many others have bullshit titles as well)
#10 Ricardo Mayorga, WBC Jr. Middleweight
			
		
	 
 If anything this thread has given me more respect for Teddy Atlas, for calling bull shit when he sees bullshit.
	 
	
	
	
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				Originally Posted by 
Lance Uppercut
				
			 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
ElTerribleMorales
				
			 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
Lance Uppercut
				
			 
			Whether the wbo is a title or not, there De La Hoya still isn't even a 10x titleist; let alone 10 time champion. Look at his record
Oscar De La Hoya
Teddy Atlas was right to call bull shit.
 
			
		
	 
 #1 Jimmy Bredahl, WBO Jr. Lightweight
#2 Jorge Paez, WBO Lightweight
#3 
Rafael Ruelas, IBF Lightweight (unified WBO/IBF) 
			
		
	 
 He was already the WBO light weight champion, you cant count that has a new title reign. Otherwise, that would have made Mike Tyson a 3 time heavyweight champion by the time he was 21. 
What? how is that supposed to count as a different title reign?
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				Originally Posted by 
ElTerribleMorales
				
			 
			#7 Javier Castillejo, WBC Jr.Middleweight
#8 Fernando Vargas, WBA Jr. Middleweight (unified WBC/WBA)
			
		
	 
 Once again, counting unification as 2 different title reigns.
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				Originally Posted by 
ElTerribleMorales
				
			 
			#9 Felix Sturm, WBO Middleweight (bullshit but so many others have bullshit titles as well)
#10 Ricardo Mayorga, WBC Jr. Middleweight
			
		
	 
 If anything this thread has given me more respect for Teddy Atlas, for calling bull shit when he sees bullshit.
 
			
		
	 
 I agree 100% Lance
	 
	
	
	
		Re: Inappropriate comments by Teddy Atlas
	
	
		Who cares how many alphabet titles a fighter collects?  "Won-loss" records are a better measuring stick.  Especially when you factor in "quality of opponents" and where those opponents were in their careers when they faced the fighter.