Arreollllaaaa

Listen: I agree Vlad/Vitali would be a big step up for Cris right now - maybe too big of a step up. However, I like his odds against most of the other heavyweights in the top ten, but I agree I would like his odds more if he came into the fight in better shape. The odd thing is allegedly he worked harder for this fight than for his last fight yet he weighed more in this fight. I guess he worked on weights rather than cardio.

On other hand, he looked more focused in this fight and I think fought better than many people thought he would. Correct me if I'm wrong, but many people called Jameel to upset Cris in this fight or that the fight would go into the championship rounds. It didn't. Cris ended it in 4.

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Listen: I agree Vlad/Vitali would be a big step up for Cris right now - maybe too big of a step up. However, I like his odds against most of the other heavyweights in the top ten, but I agree I would like his odds more if he came into the fight in better shape. The odd thing is allegedly he worked harder for this fight than for his last fight yet he weighed more in this fight. I guess he worked on weights rather than cardio.

On other hand, he looked more focused in this fight and I think fought better than many people thought he would. Correct me if I'm wrong, but many people called Jameel to upset Cris in this fight or that the fight would go into the championship rounds. It didn't. Cris ended it in 4.

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and McCline also had just come out of retirement and wasn't anywhere close to the top 10, and from what i remember most said he'd only give Nipple boy probs if he underestimated him, i give credit to Cris that he didn't and picked up a decent win, but in no way did he prove he deserves to be on top of the division

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

First thing Chris has to do is change his last name. It just ain't right to be named after part of a woman's tit.

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Nah, it's very fitting... If you look at his chest it makes perfect sense that his name is related to tits.

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Back when it meant something. :rolleyes:


"The Nightmare" is going to be when Cris has to fight for more than 4 rounds! And that's when those combinations won't be flowing like they were tonight. I hate to rain on the parade, but Cris only did what was expected and nothing more.

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exactly what i was thinking, that's why i was pointing out that Klitschko already brutally knocked him out, i already had McCline at journeyman status against Peter, but i can't take away from Cris he has power, but he also got whacked cleanly a bunch of times against a fighter who isn't known as a hard puncher, IMO Chambers beats Arreola, and both Klitschkos knock him out

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How many rounds did it take Klitschko?

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I didn't realise they were playing 'top trumps'.

Lyle is right, Areola is definitely out of chape for a professional athlete at this stage (top 15 world).

He's going to get crush by a fighter who'll take him at a high pace after 5 rounds or a professional athlete like wlad or vitali...

I'm really wondering what this guy is eating during his training camp, he needs to have someone looking for his weight. I remember him saying during a post fight interview how great he felt at 235lbs, and that he'll never get back above 240.

now at 250, because he feel he's strong, he thinks 250 is okay...whata mistake. the people around him are not good, let the man eat whatever he wants because he's still strong at 250 is really unprofessional. f**** force him to run and to eat healthy !

if he doesn't change his habits, he's going to pay another bill taht the restaurant's one.

a good example of a magnificient athlete who came on a exellent shape was Tyson. this fighter was great to do that...

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Nah, it's very fitting... If you look at his chest it makes perfect sense that his name is related to tits.

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The nickname needs to be changed..."Nightmare" doesn't capture his being. "The Blob", "Jelly Roll", "Spare Tire", "El Gordo", or something like that would really help market him ;D

since I'm myself out of shape and just at the same weight :-), I won't agree to call such names for that weight :-)))))

at least when fighting at amateur I was at 220-225. :-)

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Originally Posted by VanChilds

I thought he looked good, but Jameel is hard fighter to gauge off of. I'd like to see him with a Ibragimov/Povetkin/Chagaev type fighter. I think he is still 1-3 fights away from being ready for the Klits brothers.

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I'm sorry, but he won't probably ever ready for the Klitschko brothers, they move too much, and they are too elusive. That movement will limit his combinations, both of their jabs will pick him apart. Samuel Peter might not have his chin, but IMO he was faster when he was fresh than Arreola, and he couldn't find Wladimir when he came in at 244 not over 250. For Arreola to stand a chance he needs to drop below 225.

Which is exactly the point sebs... I'm an Amatuer fighter myself and I bust my balls to stay fit and in shape... I don't get any media exposure outside of a mention in a newspaper, I don't get paid or make a living from it and I'm not in contention to fight for a world title/fight the elite fighters in my weight class.

I still look like somebody who at least resembles an athlete though... ;)

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Which is exactly the point sebs... I'm an Amatuer fighter myself and I bust my balls to stay fit and in shape... I don't get any media exposure outside of a mention in a newspaper, I don't get paid or make a living from it and I'm not in contention to fight for a world title/fight the elite fighters in my weight class.

I still look like somebody who at least resembles an athlete though... ;)

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Cris's new nickname is officially "D Cup", gonna be the only pro boxer ever to be sponsored by Victoria's Secret

heheh, well joking aside I'd actually say that he's a genuine B/C cup ;)

It's might seem like I'm just going on about something superficial like his appearance but it just shows that he isn't taking this seriously enough.

It's going to come and catch up with him when he steps up past the mclines. At this stage in his career his training camps should be about reaching peak fitness... based off what I've seen he still needs to spend time improving his base level of conditioning which he can't really afford to be doing. I mean what? does his day job keep him out of the gym or what?

Against elite level fighters he needs to have already high fitness level and then peak off that. If he gets in a real fight that goes over 5 rounds he's going to struggle.

How can we expect casual sports fans to take boxing serioulsly if a top heavyweight looks like that?! :-X No wonder your average guy knows more about UFC than he does boxing.

Chris did what was expected. He KO an old man early in the fight. It was entertaining and exciting, but that's all it was nothing more nothing less.

The next fight for Arreola should be against Chambers. It would be a good one and it will be a fight to decide who really is the best American Boxer right now.

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Originally Posted by "The L.A. Earthquake"

Chris did what was expected. He KO an old man early in the fight. It was entertaining and exciting, but that's all it was nothing more nothing less.

The next fight for Arreola should be against Chambers. It would be a good one and it will be a fight to decide who really is the best American Boxer right now.

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same here, and honestly i rank Chambers MD over Peter higher than i do Arreola's TKO4 over McCline, i think Chambers will give D-Cup fits

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Originally Posted by Lyle

I give Cris credit for doing what he was supposed to do despite how fat he is...the guy USED to be a light heavyweight as an amateur and now he's a pig of a heavyweight. Sure he KO'd McCline, but what if Jameel hadn't been on the fence about retiring, what if he came to fight and took Cris the distance and even worse what if Jameel had pressured Cris??? Cris is going to lose and soon, and it won't be because of skill as much as lack of training and taking fights seriously.....can you see him beating Wladimir when he comes in at 255?!?!?! I sure as hell don't! Wlad is in shape AND he's athletic enough to box circles around Arreola, who wouldn't last 5 rounds with Wlad unless he gets himself in better shape.

Eddie Chambers is fat because he has to be fat to be a heavyweight, he could easily fight at cruiserweight...but where is the money in that? I agree Eddie needs to work on his stamina, but bringing up more out of shape heavyweights only proves the points everyone is trying to make about why the division is so weak.


I agree with booze, no heavyweight PERIOD should look like Arreola or McCline did last night. They are supposed to be PRO athletes and they need to conduct themselves as such. You can run down the list of heavyweight champions and they have all been in great shape...even Old George Foreman, he was in better shape at age 45 than either of those guys in the ring last night and Evander Holyfield at age 45 is in better shape than those guys right now.

I want to say that fighters should get fined for coming into fights out of shape, but defining what "in shape" and "out of shape" is would be difficult....all I know is Cris is going to come across a fighter who will take the fight seriously and he's going to lose

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I agree with your sentiments on his condition, however surviving a Klitschko is gonna be heart and chin more than stamina. He gets hit alot and not making it out of the 5th wouldn't be because he's out of shape it would be for getting hit with dozens of straight rights.

So I agree that Cris needs to get in better shape, I disagree that's the key to beating Wlad. I think he has the toughness to do it, lacking defense for Wlad though. Cris hits hard enough and pressures enough to give Wlad trouble, the problem is if he doesn't slip the punches coming from Wlad on the way in, it's lights out.

The only thing that worries me about Arreola is his chin.
i seen Walker semi hurt him and McCline also got a good hit on him.
Thoughts???