The Five All Time Worst Boxing Decisions

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Originally Posted by CGM

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Originally Posted by Britkid

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Originally Posted by CGM

Ha ha, I checked your profile, I'm a lot older than you. I guess I'm not really interested in debating whether it was a terrible decision , or merely a poor one. Naturally I am probably somewhat biased by the fact that it was a Canadian that was robbed. ;)

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As a Brit, (as you may of guessed:p), I think we both can safely say Lewis was Jamaican, and our arguments are thus unbiased!;)

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I was in the sports bar the size of a freaking barn that night, and it was packed to the rafters with guys that were pumped for the fight. There was a lot of unhappy people let me tell you. :mad:

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I would agree, the same went for Britain, but anyone who anything about boxing, knew the victory over Briggs gave him lineage, thus he defended against Holyfield, in a fight many thought he won, and even in 1999 most sports fans were boxing smart, and knew the score, literally and figuratively.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Emmanuel Augustus was the loser in the biggest robbery i have ever seen. DOn't remember who he was fighting.

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Courtney Burton?

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Emmanuel Augustus was the loser in the biggest robbery i have ever seen. DOn't remember who he was fighting.

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Courtney Burton?

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that's who quickly came to my mind

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Emmanuel Augustus was the loser in the biggest robbery i have ever seen. DOn't remember who he was fighting.

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Courtney Burton?

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that's who quickly came to my mind

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I also thought he beat Ward, but I wouldn't call that one a robbery.

Seems the list is never ending and always grows unfortunatly,a few that stick:Dave Tiberi vs. James Toney....Omar Weis vs. Antonio Diaz.....Felix Sturm vs. ODH...Fres Oquendo vs. Chris Byrd...Guty Espadas vs. Eric Morales....Wayne McCullough vs. Jose L. Bueno/Victor Rabanales

I'm surprised that none of you mentioned Leonard-Hearns II. Leonard was repeatedly hurt and outboxed by Hearns and dropped him twice, yet it was declared a draw.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Emmanuel Augustus was the loser in the biggest robbery i have ever seen. DOn't remember who he was fighting.

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Courtney Burton?

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that's who quickly came to my mind

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that's the one.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by CFH

Courtney Burton?

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that's who quickly came to my mind

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I also thought he beat Ward, but I wouldn't call that one a robbery.

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na that was an all out war, i'd give it to either fighter

Abraham Vs Miranda I comes to mind as well

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Hatton robbing Callazo should be included. As well as Marquez being robbed twice against Pacquaio

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uLOL

and you had Marquez winning by 1 point right?


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Originally Posted by SweetPea

There's a big difference between a robbery and a controversial decision.

Robberies occur when one fighter dominates another and doesn't get the decision. Robberies occur when there is no way you could make a logical argument for the other guy winning. Robberies are the worst boxing decisions.

Lewis-Holyfield I was an outright robbery and a much worse decision than fights like Mayweather-Castillo and Oscar-Pernell.

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I agree with this anaylsis. I watched Lewis-Holyfield 1 just the other day and had it 118-111 Lewis. How that dumb broad ever scored it for Holyfield i'll never know.

Whenever I score fights I always note down clean rounds and close rounds while I go. Clean being rounds I would argue were definitively won by one fighter and close where I could see some kind of argument for either fighter. In the Lewis Holyfield fight I didnt score a single clean round for Holyfield and there were 5 close rounds. So by my book even if you give Holy the nod on every close one he'd still lose 7-5. 100% robbery.

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Originally Posted by Master

I thought ODH just beat Pernell.

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Yeh me too, had it even after 11

Numbers 1 & 2, I definitely agree with, but 3,4 & 5 just don't work because those are all close fights which I've heard people score to both fighters. I thought Mayweather beat Castillo by a round, that Oscar beat Trinidad by 2 & the Whitaker beat Oscar by 2, but none of that makes them robberies, it just makes them close fights. People throw the word robbery around far too much, I remember all kinds of nonsense like that on here after the Berto-Collazo fight. The Lewis-Holyfield first fight should undoubtedly be in there, as should Oscar-Sturm IMO. Can't think of another off-hand, but Emmanuel Augustus could have a Top 10 all on his own.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Numbers 1 & 2, I definitely agree with, but 3,4 & 5 just don't work because those are all close fights which I've heard people score to both fighters. I thought Mayweather beat Castillo by a round, that Oscar beat Trinidad by 2 & the Whitaker beat Oscar by 2, but none of that makes them robberies, it just makes them close fights. People throw the word robbery around far too much, I remember all kinds of nonsense like that on here after the Berto-Collazo fight. The Lewis-Holyfield first fight should undoubtedly be in there, as should Oscar-Sturm IMO. Can't think of another off-hand, but Emmanuel Augustus could have a Top 10 all on his own.

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agreed 1 & 2 are valid and 3,4 and 5 are a bit silly.

I had all 3 of those fights scored to the eventual winner and again why i dont mind people refering to these close calls as incorrect i find it extremely harsh to refer to these as robberys.

If you wanna talk robberys talk lewis-holyfield 1, chris john getting the decision over marquez in indonesia, and as youve already mentioned the 3 115-113 scorecards for ODLH over sturm (ODLH winning wasnt what was fishy it was the 3 EXACT scores that was)

So far this year thankfully we`ve been treated to some spectacular knockouts in the big fights by the likes of pacquiao, mosley, dunne, froch etc and the only questionable decision i can think of from the top of my head was berto getting the win over collazo.

lets hope this trend continues throughout 2009 ;D

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

If you wanna talk robberys talk lewis-holyfield 1, chris john getting the decision over marquez in indonesia, and as youve already mentioned the 3 115-113 scorecards for ODLH over sturm (ODLH winning wasnt what was fishy it was the 3 EXACT scores that was)

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Might have to watch that one, not seen that Oscar fight. What youre saying about the scorecards is what i thought about the Dawson-Johnson fight all being 116-112 Dawson, that stunk bigtime. All exactly the same very wrong score, whats that about?

Btw im not saying it was one of the BIGGEST robberies ever in terms of a declared winner but I thought it was in scoring terms. By my book youd have to score every single close round to Dawson to get that score (Johnson clearly without a doubt won 4 rounds but there were 5 close rounds). All 3 judges scoring every close round to Dawson, thats 3 lots of 5 close rounds going 15-0 to Dawson. My score was actually 116-112 Johnson fwiw.

I just watched number 5 on that list, Mayweather v Castillo.

I scored it a 113-113 draw (6-6 with 1pt deduction for each fighter). So to put it on the top robberies of all time is laughable frankly.

For me it was pretty much a tale of 2 halves, with Mayweather owning the 1st half and Castillo owning the 2nd. I had it 4-3 to Castillo in clean rounds and I scored the 5 close rounds 3-2 to Mayweather.

Having said that the actual point scores were way out of order (115-111 x2 and 116-111). So the scores were awful but real close fight. Kind of reminiscent of the scoring I mentioned above in the Dawson v Johnson match, every close round got scored for Mayweather across the board 15-0.