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Could you not argue that everything he has got so far has been down to his Silver Medal? Like that's the reason he's supposedly had it all his own way and in a way cheated the system?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
But then you could argue that it was he who actually put the graft in to win the medal. There was no promotional bullshit going on. He won the medal which paved the way for this route to the title, so kudos to Khan aswell i say.
I suppose
But Audley got gold !!
Even though I don't like him I will give him kudos when he impresses and beats a top guy between the ropes
What youve got to remember though is Amir is despised in this Country . Even the Brits booed him off the stage in Vegas at the Pac weigh in. This stuff he says does him no favours either so atleast we know he suffers with not being accepted.He is made to feel uncomfortable where ever he goes and he suffers the feeling of rejection at home or abroad :cool: GREAT STUFF! Hope it keeps upQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Think thats a bit harsh GAME, he talks some total crap when it comes to what he's achieved but I think its more the people around him that are milking him for everything he is worth and making him believe. He's a nice guy, a tremendously talented boxer, but he will get stopped again sooner or later. Unless, boilin down to lightweight affected his punch resistance, which i doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEWhat youve got to remember though is Amir is despised in this Country . Even the Brits booed him off the stage in Vegas at the Pac weigh in. This stuff he says does him no favours either so atleast we know he suffers with not being accepted.He is made to feel uncomfortable where ever he goes and he suffers the feeling of rejection at home or abroad :cool: GREAT STUFF! Hope it keeps upQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
He'll beat kotelnik, but he won't beat a world class operator. My only worry is he could sneak around people for ages fightin the likes of Urango who he could just outbox for 12 rounds. Surely, as he's got a title fight so early in his career he can't avoid people for ever.
That's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Would you give him credit if he beats Kotelnik? I think there's a chance Khan could go in this fight if he is tagged by a few accurate shots. I'd still pick him to win...probably on points.
Be interesting to see if he opts to fight Ortiz who would be his madatory i think. He stopped Ortiz in the ams so he'd be confident i reckon. Ortiz has developed quite a lot since then though.
It may be viewed as harsh but I just want him to experience some severe pain thats all.Quote:
Originally Posted by themacmagicianThink thats a bit harsh GAME, he talks some total crap when it comes to what he's achieved but I think its more the people around him that are milking him for everything he is worth and making him believe. He's a nice guy, a tremendously talented boxer, but he will get stopped again sooner or later. Unless, boilin down to lightweight affected his punch resistance, which i doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEWhat youve got to remember though is Amir is despised in this Country . Even the Brits booed him off the stage in Vegas at the Pac weigh in. This stuff he says does him no favours either so atleast we know he suffers with not being accepted.He is made to feel uncomfortable where ever he goes and he suffers the feeling of rejection at home or abroad :cool: GREAT STUFF! Hope it keeps upQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
He'll beat kotelnik, but he won't beat a world class operator. My only worry is he could sneak around people for ages fightin the likes of Urango who he could just outbox for 12 rounds. Surely, as he's got a title fight so early in his career he can't avoid people for ever.
I dont like him and I look forward to watch him suffering. I didnt like Harrisson either and dont think much of De Gale. Its their attitude that pute people off. Ive grown to respect Carl Froch and Calzaghe cuz they are true world class fighters. They started off abit lippy too.
Khan needs to serve his apprenticeship 1st before getting all these underserved opportunities
Amir Khan isn't even the best prospect at 140, i'd put money on young upcoming fighters like Victor Ortiz, Devon Alexander, beating Amir Khan at 140. Instead Amir Khan is probably fighting one of the worst title holders in boxing with no real power what a suprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Funniest thread title ever! ;D
like when Pacquiao fought Julio Diaz?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBAmir Khan isn't even the best prospect at 140, i'd put money on young upcoming fighters like Victor Ortiz, Devon Alexander, beating Amir Khan at 140. Instead Amir Khan is probably fighting one of the worst title holders in boxing with no real power what a suprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
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Originally Posted by Majestylike when Pacquiao fought Julio Diaz?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBAmir Khan isn't even the best prospect at 140, i'd put money on young upcoming fighters like Victor Ortiz, Devon Alexander, beating Amir Khan at 140. Instead Amir Khan is probably fighting one of the worst title holders in boxing with no real power what a suprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Majestylike when Pacquiao fought Julio Diaz?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
That should tell you how rememerable he was ;)
David Diaz.
David, Diaz, Julio Diaz . . . who cares. They are both awful. The only half decent Diaz worth mentioning was the one that Marquez and Campbell beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
That should tell you how rememerable he was ;)
David Diaz.
that is just mean, imo david diaz is a koo guy. his not the best out there but his certainly more interesting to talk to then other boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
That should tell you how rememerable he was ;)
David Diaz.
I don't really get what your trying to say and i have no idea why your bringing Manny Pacquiao into this. David Diaz was a weak title holder but atleast he stopped Santa Cruz a fighter who was robbed against Joel Casamayor, and even a win over a faded Erik Morales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majestylike when Pacquiao fought Julio Diaz?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBAmir Khan isn't even the best prospect at 140, i'd put money on young upcoming fighters like Victor Ortiz, Devon Alexander, beating Amir Khan at 140. Instead Amir Khan is probably fighting one of the worst title holders in boxing with no real power what a suprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Is better than anything of Andriy Kotelnik's resume by a mile, his best win is against Gavin Rees for crying out loud. He won the belt by beating one of if not the worst title holders at that time.
And i think we can all forgive Manny Pacquiao for one gimme fight, considering he fought the best fighter at 140. And considering the names he fought after and before the David Diaz fight. And considering Manny Pacquiao has proven himself where as Amir Khan hasn't far from it.
Amir Khan is only moving up because 140 is a stale division at the moment, its obvious he's not gonna stay around at 135 with fighters like Edwin Valero, Breidis Prescott, Juan Diaz, Joel Casamayor, Michael Katsidis. All dangerous fighters that could beat him.
Its about time Amir Khan stepped it up he keeps telling us this and that, but when are we gonna see it ? beating Andriy Kotelnik will prove nothing. Yes he is durable but he is limited and slow, and its a well matched fight for the faster Amir Khan who should box rings around him for 12 rounds.
Every single fight Amir Khan has had is all smoke/mirrors, except for the Breidis Prescott fight. But he was only chosen because he himself got a controversial decision in his last fight against a mediocre fighter, i personally think Breidis Prescott won it but it was close and he didn't look that impressive.
All i want to see is Amir Khan in with a live dangerous opponent, im not hating on Amir Khan i just want to see him take risks. I wouldn't of been disappointed if he took on Kendall Holt, Demetrius Hopkins, Junior Witter, Juan Urango, Nate Campbell, Timothy Bradley, Paul Malignaggi, Mike Alvarado, Ricardo Torres, Randall Bailey, Victor Ortiz, Devon Alexander.
Any of these fights at 140 would of been more appealing to me than the one he's taking now. Amir Khan fans say "Well he's young and is still inexperienced" when thats a piss poor excuse IMO. He's had plenty of Amateur fights aswell as Olympic experience. He's had 21 pro fights and he ain't that young anymore at 22 either.
I think its about time we see a real step up in class, i'll forgive him for this easy route. Because its an easy route to a title belt. But after this fight i want to see him in with some real live opponents.
lol... you obviously saw a lot more than Barrera was able to with all that blood... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
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Originally Posted by smashup
based on what? His massive punching power? Sorry Smash that is laughable.
He may have gone back to focusing on speed but as I said elsewhere, he doesn't have the chin or the punch of Pac so it's silly to think he is any kind of second coming to save British boxing now that Hatton has bit the dust at elite level.
Come off it he was boxing Barreras head off and had him on the back foot throughout the entire fight.
Thats what i saw anyway.