Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
Even though Mosley is one of my favourite fighters, I can see where Pacquiao is coming from, he wants the fight that is the biggest money for himself. Would like to see Shane fight Williams if the opportunity is there. Funny how some views of Mosley's PPV status change depending on which fighter is 'ducking' him :-X
Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
Cotto and Mosley are far too big for Pacquiao and aren't really willing to go far down in weight to make it happen and i don't blame them.
If Pacquiao fought Cotto and Mosley at a weight they were healthy at he would get ko'd.
Mayweather and Marquez are far better opponents because Mayweather is closer to his size and Marquez is smaller than him.
Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
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all this proves is that Manny has no real interest in fighting REAL welterweight fighters while they're in their REAL weight class, he was all over the idea when Roach said 142, but since neither man took the bait, now he doesn't want the fight, i wouldn't say anything bad about Manny if he decided to take on Bradley or Campbell or even Torres, cause he'd be taking on the best at 140, unlike what he did at 135, Mosley and Cotto are both big names, and they both sell fights, so don't think that the money issue is that valid
ANd thats a bad thing? Why in the blue hell would he want to fight a REAL welterweight when he is, in fact, FAR from a REAL welterweight?
I think its amazing that he moved up and took on the #1 light welterweight. Now all of a sudden he's expected to go up and fight the best WW's? I mean common, the guy's a great fighter but he's not superman. What next? Will we expect him to go up and clean out the HW division?
Exactamento!!! A six division world championship is already a feat by itself, especially coming from a former flyweight. Having the welters meet PAC at a catchweight makes the fight a lil fair.
i have no prob if manny just takes on the best at 140, but he shouldn't be trying this whole BS line that he's dominating every weight class he's been in, and then call out welter's but not want to fight them at their best,IMO i'd love to see Pacquiao fight Guzman or Campbell, but if he's gonna talk all this shit of becoming the ONLY 7 division champion, he's gonna have to do it at 147 lbs
Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
Wait, somebody said that Manny was scared of black fighters? :peeker:
Its also funny that some are now implying that fighting Oscar was some sort of sure thing. Roach may have thought Oscar was getting a bit past it, may have thought he would be weight drained but its absurd to act like he knew it was a sure thing. It was a calculated risk, even if they lost it was a big money fight with a built in excuse, he was just too big.
I'd love to see Pac-Cotto but if it doesn't happen oh well.
Does anybody realize how ridiculous it would be if Manny, a guy that was at 130 just what two years ago would fight Cotto and Mayweather back to back? Who does that? Nobody.
Anyway how could anybody be upset with him fighting Mayweather or Marquez? Anybody holding out hope that he'll fight somebody like Tim Bradley or Nate forget it, its just not likely. Why would he?
Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
arum's a dork. When margarito got hit with the cheating charges Arum whipped out the race card extra quick ranting that this only happened because tony's a mexican kid... blah blah blah.
Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
Qoute.... "exactly, i'm not trying to take anything away from Manny, ;):lickish::rolleyes:;):lickish::rolleyes:, but what him (or mostly Roach) are trying to do with these catch weights are ridiculous" ;D
After taking the superficiality out of it.... then it gets much clearer!
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Qoute.... "exactly, i'm not trying to take anything away from Manny, ;):lickish::rolleyes:;):lickish::rolleyes:, but what him (or mostly Roach) are trying to do with these catch weights are ridiculous" ;D
After taking the superficiality out of it.... then it gets much clearer!
the whole catch weight bullshit is the truth, having two fighters come down to a weight that they'd not be able to compete at and then try to boast up a possible win is ridiculous, i'd rather see Manny take on the best in the division and stop all this welterweight crap, like i said you can't say anything negative about Manny now cause nuthuggers like the one above quickly say you're a hater:rolleyes:
Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
I just wish PAcquiao and Mayweather would face Cotto and Mosley because it seems like these guys or Margarito before them seem to get this reputation of mythical proportions. I think people who are tired of fans of guys like Mayweather and Pacquiao way over compensate in how good they believe these guys are.
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ANd thats a bad thing? Why in the blue hell would he want to fight a REAL welterweight when he is, in fact, FAR from a REAL welterweight?
I think its amazing that he moved up and took on the #1 light welterweight. Now all of a sudden he's expected to go up and fight the best WW's? I mean common, the guy's a great fighter but he's not superman. What next? Will we expect him to go up and clean out the HW division?
Exactamento!!! A six division world championship is already a feat by itself, especially coming from a former flyweight. Having the welters meet PAC at a catchweight makes the fight a lil fair.
i have no prob if manny just takes on the best at 140, but he shouldn't be trying this whole BS line that he's dominating every weight class he's been in, and then call out welter's but not want to fight them at their best,IMO i'd love to see Pacquiao fight Guzman or Campbell, but if he's gonna talk all this shit of
becoming the ONLY 7 division champion, he's gonna have to do it at 147 lbs
Of course PAC gonna do it at the proper weight (no catchweight) of 147 lbs. if he will try to become the only boxer in boxing history to capture titles in 7 different weight divisions... But then again if PAC will choose a welter champ in the likes of a Urango or a Berto, he will still be castigated for not facing the bigger welter champs like Mosley, Clottey or Cotto... Becoming the only 7-division titliest will not please every boxing fan... They won't appreciate that great feat just because it's from a weaker champ...
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Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
I still think Berto will be showing Mosly and Cotto a thing or two should they face eachother, and should he actually fight properly.
I still don't how Pacquiao being willing to face Mayweather or Marquez instead of Mosley or Cotto makes him a pussy or somebody who ducks fighters. IMO Marquez or Mayweather are more dangerous stylewise than Cotto and Mosley are size wise.
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Exactamento!!! A six division world championship is already a feat by itself, especially coming from a former flyweight. Having the welters meet PAC at a catchweight makes the fight a lil fair.
i have no prob if manny just takes on the best at 140, but he shouldn't be trying this whole BS line that he's dominating every weight class he's been in, and then call out welter's but not want to fight them at their best,IMO i'd love to see Pacquiao fight Guzman or Campbell, but if he's gonna talk all this shit of
becoming the ONLY 7 division champion, he's gonna have to do it at 147 lbs
Of course PAC gonna do it at the proper weight (no catchweight) of 147 lbs. if he will try to become the only boxer in boxing history to capture titles in 7 different weight divisions... But then again if PAC will choose a welter champ in the likes of a Urango or a Berto, he will still be castigated for not facing the bigger welter champs like Mosley, Clottey or Cotto... Becoming the only 7-division titliest will not please every boxing fan... They won't appreciate that great feat just because it's from a weaker champ...
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great feat? he'd be doing the same thing he did at 135, taking on the weakest fighter, and also if he ends up fighting Urango, that'd only be cause Berto lost to him, which honestly would say alot about Berto, and nothing of it good might i add, also taking on the weakest champ at 147 basically contradicts the whole "only wanting the biggest fights" claim
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I still think Berto will be showing Mosly and Cotto a thing or two should they face eachother, and should he actually fight properly.
I still don't how Pacquiao being willing to face Mayweather or Marquez instead of Mosley or Cotto makes him a pussy or somebody who ducks fighters. IMO Marquez or Mayweather are more dangerous stylewise than Cotto and Mosley are size wise.
i'm not saying it makes him a pussy, i for one think he should campaign at 140, and take on the best in the division, like i said, i'd love to see him against Guzman, Campbell, Torres, Holt, Bradley, etc.
Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
Pac-JMM 3 or Pac-PBF is what most people wants.
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Pac-JMM 3 or Pac-PBF is what most people wants.
can't believe i'm sayin it, but agreed, i'd rather have the welter's mix it up with each other seein how it's a pretty deep division
Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez
The welterweight division has the winner of Cotto-Clottey, Mosley, and Berto, and maybe Paul Williams if he can get back down. I can't see any of these guys fighting Margarito again.
There is a lot of depth in the division but not a lot of big fights.
Also besides Guzman, I don't see Bradley or Holt as exciting fights for Pacquiao IMO he beats both of them easily, so do any of hte top WW and Mayweather.
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The welterweight division has the winner of Cotto-Clottey, Mosley, and Berto, and maybe Paul Williams if he can get back down. I can't see any of these guys fighting Margarito again.
There is a lot of depth in the division but not a lot of big fights.
Also besides Guzman, I don't see Bradley or Holt as exciting fights for Pacquiao IMO he beats both of them easily, so do any of hte top WW and Mayweather.
IMO if he has his head on right Holt could trouble Manny, and he probably does have the power to get Pacquiao's respect, that said, i think Manny would win the fight, but it should be a entertaining fight none the less