Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
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Shane will have his 40th birthday before this is made.
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
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DOesn't mean Mosley can't come in less. Mayweather weigehd more than Judah at the weigh in, and came in to the ring 4 pounds lighter I believe.
I don't think it's a case of 'he could' come in less, we know he could. The question is what effect will it have on Shane? I think it will be damaging to him
You can't Blame Pac for that. Pac doesn't need Mosley for Money or Legacy. Pac has a lot of option. This is Mosley Bargaining for a Pac fight. I think 144-145 will be fair. Pac's highest weigh-in was 142. So don't give an excuse if Pac KO Mosley at 145!! Mosley will still be bigger.
I know you can't blame Pac for it, it's Shane's choice if he chooses to fight Pac at a weight he will not be fully effective at.
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I don't think it's a case of 'he could' come in less, we know he could. The question is what effect will it have on Shane? I think it will be damaging to him
You can't Blame Pac for that. Pac doesn't need Mosley for Money or Legacy. Pac has a lot of option. This is Mosley Bargaining for a Pac fight. I think 144-145 will be fair. Pac's highest weigh-in was 142. So don't give an excuse if Pac KO Mosley at 145!! Mosley will still be bigger.
I know you can't blame Pac for it, it's Shane's choice if he chooses to fight Pac at a weight he will not be fully effective at.
Pacquiao has been coming into the ring about 148, even at a catch weight Mosley will have 10 pounds on Pacquiao in the ring. Without the catch weight Mosley has like what, 12 pounds easily.
Of these three, Mayweather, Mosley, and Cotto, Mosley is the fighter that gives Pacquiao the most trouble.
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You can't Blame Pac for that. Pac doesn't need Mosley for Money or Legacy. Pac has a lot of option. This is Mosley Bargaining for a Pac fight. I think 144-145 will be fair. Pac's highest weigh-in was 142. So don't give an excuse if Pac KO Mosley at 145!! Mosley will still be bigger.
I know you can't blame Pac for it, it's Shane's choice if he chooses to fight Pac at a weight he will not be fully effective at.
Pacquiao has been coming into the ring about 148, even at a catch weight Mosley will have 10 pounds on Pacquiao in the ring. Without the catch weight Mosley has like what, 12 pounds easily.
Of these three, Mayweather, Mosley, and Cotto, Mosley is the fighter that gives Pacquiao the most trouble.
I think all the names you mention can trouble Pac at 147.
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I know you can't blame Pac for it, it's Shane's choice if he chooses to fight Pac at a weight he will not be fully effective at.
Pacquiao has been coming into the ring about 148, even at a catch weight Mosley will have 10 pounds on Pacquiao in the ring. Without the catch weight Mosley has like what, 12 pounds easily.
Of these three, Mayweather, Mosley, and Cotto, Mosley is the fighter that gives Pacquiao the most trouble.
I think all the names you mention can trouble Pac at 147.
Just like Hatton & DLH???http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ons/icon10.gif
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hi, i'm new here. nways back to the topic, the pacman has a very good chance of beating mosley if the fight will be made at under 144 but if it will be on 147, mosley will have a great size advantage against pacman. this is gonna be a great fight if they will face each other. another classic match up
Welcome to the forum.
tnx man. hoping to have a nice stay here
Its a trap dude, :cooldevil: get out while you can.
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Mosely wants to retire with a BIG PAY DAY!! Fighting at a catch weight, he will lose alot of advantages and Pacquiao can then take an Old Mosely weight drained.
He wants to get paid a good cheque one last time. I don't blame him, but the two best pay days for him are against both Mayweather or Pacquiao. I think for him to get to Mayweather, he has to fight and Beat Cotto. Those are some big ifs and buts. Then Pacquiao also has to choose him.
If that happened, I would then figure Mayweather could perhaps fight Cotto, as he does have a list, or sit it out and await for the likely winner Pacquiao if it's at such a low weight. What they are clearly saying is, noway are they putting Pacquiao with a Welterweight who is still dangerous.
I think that's the whole thinking process behind Roach. Pacquiao is the P4P best fighter in the world. Mosley wants the fight with Pacquiao more than Pacquiao does. Mosley needs to come to him not the other way around. Pacquiao still has yet to weigh in as a true welterweight so I would think 145 catchweight would be the best scenario for this fight to happen.
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I would want pacman too if i were going through a divorce whose ex wife wants spouse and child support
i would also like the biggest purse there is esp since im alrdy 36 towarfds the end of my career..... =(
i really hope shane get this fight, cause if he doesnt the divorce is going to make him fight till hes like 40 sumthing
Oh, the formerly known as Jin Mosley. What a b*tch! Let's post this up so we can all think she is, as a unit.
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hi, i'm new here. nways back to the topic, the pacman has a very good chance of beating mosley if the fight will be made at under 144 but if it will be on 147, mosley will have a great size advantage against pacman. this is gonna be a great fight if they will face each other. another classic match up
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I know you can't blame Pac for it, it's Shane's choice if he chooses to fight Pac at a weight he will not be fully effective at.
Pacquiao has been coming into the ring about 148, even at a catch weight Mosley will have 10 pounds on Pacquiao in the ring. Without the catch weight Mosley has like what, 12 pounds easily.
Of these three, Mayweather, Mosley, and Cotto, Mosley is the fighter that gives Pacquiao the most trouble.
I think all the names you mention can trouble Pac at 147.
Absolutely! Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, would give Pacquiao HUGE trouble at 147. Those three are already settled into the weight class while Pacquiao is still naturally smaller than them. Even at 145, the catchweight I see these fights making sense at, they're still toss ups.
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Welcome to the forum.
tnx man. hoping to have a nice stay here
Its a trap dude, :cooldevil: get out while you can.
This forum has been the #1 cause of procrastination of work, household chores, and anything else I try to get done. I would probably be a much more productive person had I never found out about this place. With all that being said, I love it here!
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
BTW! Is anyone else upset that Mosley said these things and it basically lets Floyd slide? What was the whole point of Mosley reacting to the Floyd interview if he's only going to forget about it and chase a fight with Pacquiao? I really wanted to see Shane push a fight with Floyd...
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I think 2 things about Shane.
1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.
2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.
If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.
I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
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BTW! Is anyone else upset that Mosley said these things and it basically lets Floyd slide? What was the whole point of Mosley reacting to the Floyd interview if he's only going to forget about it and chase a fight with Pacquiao? I really wanted to see Shane push a fight with Floyd...
Naw... I think Mosley was just positioning himself for a bout with Mayweather, if a bout with Pacquiao doesn't materialize. "He wants only Mega fights".
Oh, I never meant to imply Mayweather and Cotto wouldn't give Pacquiao trouble. of course they do. What I was trying to emphasize is that Mosley gives Pacquiao the "most trouble" of the three.
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Good that Shane saw the light... The only way he can have a chance to fight PAC is to agree to a catchweight... Shane now a candidate to win the next Pacquiao sweepstakes...;)
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I think 2 things about Shane.
1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.
2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.
If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.
I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
totally forgot about Nazim. maybe mosley is on to something...
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I think 2 things about Shane.
1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.
2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.
If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.
I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
I think Shane has the boxing skills and power to knock Manny out. Manny's chin still has yet to be tested in the upperweights because he hasn't been hit with anything meaningful between Diaz, De La Hoya, and Hatton. Which is also another reason I think people underestimate the fact that Manny's defense is well improved from what it once was. But that's another thread...
I don't see Manny knocking out Shane. He would have to win on points. Shane's chin is too tested.
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I think 2 things about Shane.
1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.
2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.
If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.
I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
totally forgot about Nazim. maybe mosley is on to something...
All Mosley has to do to beat Pacquiao is use a carbon copy of the Marquez fight and not get knocked down. Pacquiao hasn't changed, his opponents have. And Hopkins knows something about taking someones strategy and using it better against a knockout artist everyone is high on. :)
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I think 2 things about Shane.
1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.
2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.
If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.
I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
totally forgot about Nazim. maybe mosley is on to something...
All Mosley has to do to beat Pacquiao is use a carbon copy of the Marquez fight and not get knocked down. Pacquiao hasn't changed, his opponents have. And Hopkins knows something about taking someones strategy and using it better against a knockout artist everyone is high on. :)
I don't know about Shane copying Marquez' game plan. Marquez is a different type of fighter and his own abilities were the reasons he made Pac look bad at times. I don't think Shane would be able to fight the same kind of fight. Shane would have to land the harder more significant shots because I think it would be Pacquiao landing in higher numbers. The punch that I think would give Pacquiao problems is that fake jab to a left hook that Mosely throws so well.