Let's keep the Ghost Pavlik in our prayers as he is battling with Alcohol and is in..

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Originally Posted by Mar

Dude has fought since then and looked fine....pavlik lost but it wasn't like he got his ass ko'ed or even seriously seriously hurt. He should be embarassed if anything for sticking his chin out at taylor then getting it checked, that stupidity was way worse than anything hopkins did. The guy didn't even loose his belt. He's having an alcohol problem cause he lives in freakin ohio among empty factories and vacant lots. Liquor stores are probably the only thing open. I for one call bullshit on this whole damn story. Wanna feel sorry for someone feel sorry for the thousands of vets who deserve to be drunks and others with lives way worse then pavlik. The rest of us have problems but without the stacks of cash in the bank to help. Help ricardo mayorga, that's a guy who needs rehab.

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Rep worthy, mate!! :appl:

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Originally Posted by Diane

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Fuck keeping him in my prayers

there are people out there with cancer... they are ill. Alcoholism is all about will power its non-treatable because it isnt a disease or illness.

Just cut down your drinking for fucks sake....and thats coming from probably the biggest pisshead that posts on here!!

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You really are a moron. You really should do a little research before you make stupid statements on a subject you obviously know nothing about.


The Journal of the American Medical Association defines alcoholism as "a primary, chronic disease characterized by impaired control over drinking, preoccupation with the drug alcohol, use of alcohol despite adverse consequences, and distortions in thinking." The DSM-IV (the standard for diagnosis in psychiatry and psychology) defines alcohol abuse as repeated use despite recurrent adverse consequences. It further defines alcohol dependence as alcohol abuse combined with tolerance, withdrawal, and an uncontrollable drive to drink.


Take it from someone who's father was a raging alcoholic. The disease had taken control of his life, and as young girl I begged him for years to get help. His help, came in the form of using his service revolver to blow his heart out when I was 15.

It's not an easy thing to kick, it's a battle that you have to face everyday, and I thank God that if Kelly does have a problem, that he is getting help, because I would hate for his 2 kids, to have to go through what I went through.

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I was also going to say this.

It's not as simple as will power, addiction is a complex physical, psychological, and possibly biological issue. Saying it's as simple as "cutting down" and "willpower" demonstrates a clear lack of knowledge regarding these kind of issues.

That article does not seem legitimate.

How ironic this would be, if it's true about him going to rehab. I went to his website, and went to read his blog to see if there was anything posted. Well this video was just posted yesterday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG4f0UQyKHw

I do hope that this is all bullshit, because alcoholism is a disease for some people & I really hope that Pavlik gets better.

However, I can't be the only one who finds that the way it writes like Pavlik suddenly became a raging alcoholic off the back of the Hopkins fight kinda stupid.

That article sounds like total bs. Severe thirst syndrome and stating exactly why he started drinking. It sounds like bollocks.

I wouldn't chalk this up to the Hopkins loss. It seems to be a constant problem for him. Remember the incident after the second JT fight where he broke the window with his hand and required stitches? I bet he has been battling this all along, but it is just now coming to light.

He needs to move out of Youngstown and into a Big Bear type training facility where he works all the time without outside influences. He probably could use a new trainer too. Manny would work well with Pavlik.

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Originally Posted by Drago

bad news for pavlik:(

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I doubt it's news to him... ;)

Pavlik's manager is saying that it's bull$hit.

Kelly Pavlik's co-manager says there is no truth to rehab rumors on Internet - cleveland.com

As I was saying on the first page who knows if its true or not (it still may be for all I know) cause Pedro Fernandez is a tool.

This for example, how would he know this, "All in all, the 27-year olds psyche was destroyed by Hopkins, who upset long odds by shutting Kelly down late in October 2008."

It could be true but this whole paragraph is tabloid stuff, take two events, only one seems clearly alcohol related, imply that there both because he's an alcoholic and then finish with vague speculation. The kind of thing they teach you not to do if you go to journalism school.

Before he won the title from Jermain Taylor, Pavlik reportedly got into a scuffle with a policeman which is said to have brought about probabtion. Soon after besting Taylor, Pavlik put his fist through a window in his home, requiring over 50 stitches to repair. All in all, the 27-year olds psyche was destroyed by Hopkins, who upset long odds by shutting Kelly down late in October 2008.

What?

I would be an alcoholic too if I lived in Ohio. I know this is an tourism video on Cleveland, but my friend who's lived there can say that video can apply to the whole state.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY

Well here is Pedro's response to what Cameron Dunkin says.



Posted By Pedro on 18 June, 2009
I'm not going to release the name of the source. But he/she sticks to it. Rumors of this have been going around Youngstown he/shes, and he/she got confirmation.

I wouldn't want to hurt anybody with false stories. As for that fat bastard Cameron Dunkin, he's lucky he ain't in prison after Operation Matchbook!

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Originally Posted by Diane

Well here is Pedro's response to what Cameron Dunkin says.



Posted By Pedro on 18 June, 2009
I'm not going to release the name of the source. But he/she sticks to it. Rumors of this have been going around Youngstown he/shes, and he/she got confirmation.

I wouldn't want to hurt anybody with false stories. As for that fat bastard Cameron Dunkin, he's lucky he ain't in prison after Operation Matchbook!

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What is Operation Matchbook?

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Diane

Well here is Pedro's response to what Cameron Dunkin says.



Posted By Pedro on 18 June, 2009
I'm not going to release the name of the source. But he/she sticks to it. Rumors of this have been going around Youngstown he/shes, and he/she got confirmation.

I wouldn't want to hurt anybody with false stories. As for that fat bastard Cameron Dunkin, he's lucky he ain't in prison after Operation Matchbook!

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What is Operation Matchbook?

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ClutchFans - Joey Torres (fascinating article)

Here's what Pavlik's dad has to say.


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