Re: Most impressive title run
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When I wrote Duran, I knew somebody would make that comparison and you have a point ;)
The thing is with both Hopkins and Duran I am convinced that even if they had''ve faced tougher opposition the result would've been the same as they are both awesome.
:confused: Then what was your point? I know how you feel about Duran, but did you mean what you said about Hopkins level of opposition or not?
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Read the second part of that post Brain of the outfit ;)
Both had questionable opposition, so if you are talking about quality of opponents on paper and using that as your only criteria then you could day the reigns aren't that impressive - but what I said was I believe those 2 guys would still have reigned for as long regardless of the opposition.
I don't judge Hopkins or Duran or what I see on Box Rec I judge them on what I have seen with my own eyes, but that's a different question to who has the most impressive opposition in their reign
:rolleyes: And I knew when I mentioned Duran that you would make that comparison.
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:confused: Then what was your point? I know how you feel about Duran, but did you mean what you said about Hopkins level of opposition or not?
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Read the second part of that post Brain of the outfit ;)
Both had questionable opposition, so if you are talking about quality of opponents on paper and using that as your only criteria then you could day the reigns aren't that impressive - but what I said was I believe those 2 guys would still have reigned for as long regardless of the opposition.
I don't judge Hopkins or Duran or what I see on Box Rec I judge them on what I have seen with my own eyes, but that's a different question to who has the most impressive opposition in their reign
:rolleyes: And I knew when I mentioned Duran that you would make that comparison.
Have you actually got a point then?
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CGM
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Yes!!!
Read the second part of that post Brain of the outfit ;)
Both had questionable opposition, so if you are talking about quality of opponents on paper and using that as your only criteria then you could day the reigns aren't that impressive - but what I said was I believe those 2 guys would still have reigned for as long regardless of the opposition.
I don't judge Hopkins or Duran or what I see on Box Rec I judge them on what I have seen with my own eyes, but that's a different question to who has the most impressive opposition in their reign
:rolleyes: And I knew when I mentioned Duran that you would make that comparison.
Have you actually got a point then?
Yeah, I thought i spelled it out in my first post. To me your post implied an unfavorable comparison between Duran and Hopkins based on quality of opposition at middleweight vs lightweight. And I made counterpoint to that. And since I disagreed with you on something about Duran, I'm not at all surprised the debate turned into something about being a discerning boxing fan vs. being a "boxrec drone", cause it ain't the first time I've seen that comparison under similar circumstances.
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Big and small
Larry Holmes Heavyweight 20 title defenses
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam Flyweight 17 title defenses
Ratanapol Sol Voraphin Strawweight 18 defenses
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"The Brown Bomber" Joe Louis was heavyweight champion of the world over 11 years, from 1937 to 1949. He defended the world heavyweight crown for over 26 highly impressive times with 22 wins coming by way of KO.
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"The Brown Bomber" Joe Louis was heavyweight champion of the world over 11 years, from 1937 to 1949. He defended the world heavyweight crown for over 26 highly impressive times with 22 wins coming by way of KO.
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Re: Most impressive title run
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:rolleyes: And I knew when I mentioned Duran that you would make that comparison.
Have you actually got a point then?
Yeah, I thought i spelled it out in my first post. To me your post implied an unfavorable comparison between Duran and Hopkins
based on quality of opposition at middleweight vs lightweight.
And I said that you had a good point! But you have to keep gabbing on and putting your rolling eyes and confused smilies up when I was actually acknowledging what you said!
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"The Brown Bomber" Joe Louis was heavyweight champion of the world over 11 years, from 1937 to 1949 ! And defended the world heavyweight crown 26 times
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Think Larry Holmes had one heck of a run and would of broke a record if he did not get cheated in his fight with Spinks still a good run though.
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Think Larry Holmes had one heck of a run and would of broke a record if he did not get cheated in his fight with Spinks still a good run though.
Larry Holmes is one of my favorites but i think there 1st fight, was close enough to go either way. The rematch on the other hand is a different story.
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"The Brown Bomber" Joe Louis was heavyweight champion of the world over 11 years, from 1937 to 1949 ! And defended the world heavyweight crown 26 times
I thought it was 25 times ? and to be honest, he didn't deserve to defend it 25 times. Jersey Joe Walcott was clearly cheated out of a decision in the 1st meeting. No disrespect to Joe Louis he is an ATG, but he for certain lost that fight.
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Bob foster at LHW ??? I don't know if that would be true at all, just been reading some stuff in a book.
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Veeraphol Sahaprom - WBA bantamweight champion 1995-1996, WBC bantamweight champion 1998-2005. Made 14 defenses of his title against stiff opposition. Like many great champions fought a lot of non-title fights to stay busy. Once he was asked about how long his training camp for a recent fight had been. He didn't understand the question. He just trains. Trains every day of his life. There's no such thing as training camp.
Certainly deserves a mention.
Trinidad's winning streak was awesome. The only fighter missing from his resume was Ike Quartey. Really established himself at 147, then fought Reid and Vargas at 154 and looked like beast knocking out Joppy at 160. He didn't go up in weight, he surged up to middleweight. I remember him knocking out Joppy and thinking I was witnessing a part of something special.
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Veeraphol Sahaprom - WBA bantamweight champion 1995-1996, WBC bantamweight champion 1998-2005. Made 14 defenses of his title against stiff opposition. Like many great champions fought a lot of non-title fights to stay busy. Once he was asked about how long his training camp for a recent fight had been. He didn't understand the question. He just trains. Trains every day of his life. There's no such thing as training camp.
Certainly deserves a mention.
Trinidad's winning streak was awesome. The only fighter missing from his resume was Ike Quartey. Really established himself at 147, then fought Reid and Vargas at 154 and looked like beast knocking out Joppy at 160. He didn't go up in weight, he surged up to middleweight. I remember him knocking out Joppy and thinking I was witnessing a part of something special.
Welcome to the forum.
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Welcome to the forum.
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