Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?
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Kel
Baldomir had 9 losses(but that's ok), he beat a shot to fuck Gatti (who Floyd beat to get the WBC) and even beat Zab before Floyd did lol. Floyd bored the pants of everyone to the pont they started leaving early by outpointing him for 12 rounds. Undisputed 147 champ in the weakest possible scenario.
you're hating. why are you blaming Baldomir? Judah is the guy that lost the titles to him. Floyd still fought Judah and saw it as a harder fight and people bashed him for title picking and not fighting the guy who beat Judah. So then Floyd beats Baldomir and people bitch and say he wasn't anyone that he didn't beat the guy that stopped Kostya Tszyu, so then he fought and knocked out Hatton and people still wanna complain. Whether you like it or not he beat the best at 147 which many thought was Judah at the time and he beat the Undisputed Champ at 147 in Baldomir and whether you like it or not or who was there he did it. It's not Floyd fault that Zab lost and Baldomir had 9 losses.
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I know Floyd beat Judah about a year before Cotto but Cotto stopped him. But then again that means nothing as Tszyu did him in two rounds when he was in his absolute prime.
Boxing is about styles, Floyd doesn't have the power of Cotto nor the style and he didn't have to low blow Judah twice either in the first two rounds. But this he beat the guy faster really has no hold, if you are a power puncher and someone is a counter puncher you should be able to knockout the guy faster, its not rocket science.
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No one can ever convince me Floyd has done great things above 140 because he just ain't.
Sounds like a personal problem. He has, whether you want to admit it or not.
No personal problem or hating the guy is just a wanker. You watch these and tell me he ain't a complete twat living in some dreamworld.
Go to one minute and listen to this prat.
YouTube - Floyd Mayweather: "I'm Still Retired" (300 million liquid)
YouTube - **EXCLUSIVE**FLOYD MAYWEATHER SPEAKS ON PACMAN AND HIS FUTURE IN BOXING!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kXwJ...eature=relatedWatch this lol
Sorry all the videos are fucked up I'm shit at using them.
Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?
That last video at the bottom, when Kenny was talking to Floyd about fighting Zab, Floyd could actually use that interview against him. Kenny talked about why not fight Ricky Hatton and Carlos Baldomir? If I were Floyd I would be like, "remember when you said fight Baldomir and Hatton, look what happened!"
Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?
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Majesty
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Shane is trying to get a Pacquiao fight as is Miguel Cotto and his promoter bob arum. Why isn't anyone bashing Shane or Cotto?
Because its easier to hate Floyd. And I'm pretty sure if it was Judah that hit Clottey in the back of the head or that it looked like he fell down because of a shove from, that no one would be defending him.
Boxing fans choose rules for who they like and do not like what they bash one fighter for they will defend the other for.
They have both been fighting each other and the rest of the best at Welterweight, neither duck anyone either so that's probably why no one is having a go at them.
Shane has fought the best at welterweight? The only person he has fought lately has been Margarito. And who has Cotto fought at welterweight? Judah? Floyd already fought him. He fought Shane, but Shane ducked Floyd when Floyd wanted to fight him and that was in Shanes prime not in the twilight of his career. And Cotto lost to Margarito whom Shane beat. meanwhile Floyd has become undisputed champ at 147 and beat Judah before Cotto even got to him he also knocked out Ricky Hatton who is the guy that people gave soo much credit to Pacquiao for beating but act like Floyd never did it. Why is it you blow up another fighters achievements when Floyd got their first and doesn't get any credit whatsoever?
shane's career at WW...early there was ODLH,FORREST,DIAZ RIVERA, then after a stint at 154 he came back and fought Collazo,cotto,margarito then he was signed to fight judah, but judah magically "cut" his hand and got out of the fight but fought clottey a month later.
shane won't get criticized because he just destroyed "the most feared man at WW"..not to mention he's already proved that he his willing to fight anyone. Point is, floyd can do 15mil fighting shane in LA.
then floyd's comment about why he's fighting JMM was "Marquez is the one that called me out?"....Shane has been calling him out why not fight him?
Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?
I'll echo what many have said but will make it short and simple:
Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Margarito....fight any of these and Floyd will rightfully cement his legacy...until then, PBF should STFU!
Here is a word for word quote from Mayweather:
"We're not fighting to see who the best is"
O'rly?
Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?
The jealousy and hating is just silly. You are online looking up floyd.....he aint looking up you. And that when you get down to it is the reason he's hated. You guys talk more about this one guy you hate so much than you do your own favorite fighters. This guy is playing us all...yes me included since i buy the fights and stuff as well. All the hate does is make the guy richer so he throws more bs in your face we run and talk about it as he sits at home checks his bank accts and laughs. Broke or not now the guy has probably spent and lost more money than any of us here will probably even make. This division is supposidly so full of talent and deep so why suck the cack of a guy who isn't even champ. He does all this crap cause before he did he was just another good boxer, now look his name shows up here every other thread. But yea ....we're showin him !! Lol !! I like the guy everyone knows i do......just as much as any other guy but damn there has got to be more to boxing than just floyd mayweather jr . Enough already.
Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?
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The jealousy and hating is just silly. You are online looking up floyd.....he aint looking up you. And that when you get down to it is the reason he's hated. You guys talk more about this one guy you hate so much than you do your own favorite fighters. This guy is playing us all...yes me included since i buy the fights and stuff as well. All the hate does is make the guy richer so he throws more bs in your face we run and talk about it as he sits at home checks his bank accts and laughs. Broke or not now the guy has probably spent and lost more money than any of us here will probably even make. This division is supposidly so full of talent and deep so why suck the cack of a guy who isn't even champ. He does all this crap cause before he did he was just another good boxer, now look his name shows up here every other thread. But yea ....we're showin him !! Lol !! I like the guy everyone knows i do......just as much as any other guy but damn there has got to be more to boxing than just floyd mayweather jr . Enough already.
I'm just replying to the thread as it's all about Floyd. I'm not going out of my way to bash him trust me, he has all the talent you could ever wish for but he ain't done shit with it lately. He could probably beat any Welter out there and make a mint and most importantly have something to shout about that's actually true. He thinks he is the best fighter ever he has said it many a time but he isn't......he could have been though, that's the saddest thing about it.
Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?
I had to watch that first video I posted again when he said ODLH's opponents were kind of hand picked. Man he is such a bell end!
Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?
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I'll echo what many have said but will make it short and simple:
Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Margarito....fight any of these and Floyd will rightfully cement his legacy...until then, PBF should STFU!
Here is a word for word quote from Mayweather:
"We're not fighting to see who the best is"
O'rly?
I'd like to see Floyd fight all of them; he beats all of them easy except Williams IMO.
But Floyd was trying to peg Mosley years ago and Shane didn't step up; so in a way I think floyd should make him sit around like a dipshit. I love Shane and all, but he's trying to make up his retirement fund acct. now.
I WAS a huge Maragarito fan but I never thought Tony would come anywhere close to beating FLoyd; he'd be made to look stupid, well more stupid.
Williams is the only guy I have ever thought would pose a threat; just simply by output alone and his reach advantage; he wouldn't take Floyd out but he could simply outwork him by that freakish output and get the nod in a decision, maybe.
Cotto gets outpointed in the middle of the ring all night.
That said I wish these fights would happen. Floyd seems more concerned about making tons of $$${which is no bad thing}instead of helping the sport along; but Floyd is hardly the only one looking at the $$$ side of things instead of fighting every guy out there; plenty of that going around these days. Still he could shut his mouth about being the greatest when he will never be 1/2 the man SRR was.
Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?
If someone would just explain to PBF that if he took these big fights he would make more money all these problems would be solved.
I'm with C-Lo 100% here, I give Floyd all the credit in the world for being one of the most skilled tacticians of all time, his reaction time and movement is nothing short of amazing. But, he's just a few marquee opponents away from his claims. If he wouldn't have retired and jumped in against Margarito or Cotto (Mosley hadn't jumped back into the picture until after that time) he would have much more claim to what he's doing. Plain and simple I think PBF watched too much WWF when he was growing up.