Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
WHOA WHOA I never said fight for free. How much was he making for that fight? How many people like me "sitting in my seat" would jump at any opportunity to fight Wladimir for even $25,000 I would do it in a heartbeat. I never said Haye to fight for free. You guy's are making it out like he wasn't getting a paycheck and I can assure he was. He probably thought he wasn't getting enough to get his ass kicked and simply live of the dividend's on whatever he got paid for the rest of his life. Shit whatever he was offered I would definetly take it. Enter stage left Chagaev. Most likely he got paid less money than Haye would have and still went through with it.
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
Boxing is a job for these guys, its a business. No boxer with a name out there is going to fight for free. And considering that this is one of the most dangerous sports out there where you can lose your life or come away with significant injuries to your body, it's just ridiculous to suggest a guy fights for free.
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
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JT Rock
Douglas and Tyson was not a mega event of this magnitude. Wlad couldnt draw 61k people on his own. It was Haye and his fanfare.
That's nonsense; Haye fought Barrett in his own backyard and barely drew 5000. Wlad is massive in Germany. So, yes, the vast majority of the 61,000 came to see Wlad.
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
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Tysonbruno
If he pulled his back fair enough and if he werent getting paid then same again cant blame him for pulling out and perhaps he said bad back because if he said because setanta werent paying him it would highlight the fact even more that they are done for. But if i was David i would have fought for free because if he had won which i believe he would it would open so many financial doors so he would win all round.
LOL and if he lost?????
Come on dude! Think about it
I had already said i didnt blame him for pulling out but he hasnt fought since 15th November 2008 maybe he should have took the gamble. And its obvious Setanta had no future and were going bang if he was pulling out for that reason so perhaps he could have gone to sky for his financial backing being they bought the fight with Chagaev anyway just a thought. Also he just needs to hurry up and fight if he waits till september October for Vitali he won't have fought for 10-11 month this is'nt good Im a massive Haye fan but its time to stop talking and just fight.
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
To answer the question at the top of the thread, I honestly think that Haye has more of a chance against Wlad than anyone else around in todays lacklustre HW divison and had he took the fight and won without any pay he would have still set himself up for huge paydays.
But I wouldn't go to work if I wasn't going to get paid and really why should anyone? Haye signed a contract that was surprising to say the least, with all the rematch clauses and then not to get any money on top of that would have been a disgrace! So I think he was right to pull out although I was disappointed at first.
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
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rjj tszyu
To answer the question at the top of the thread, I honestly think that Haye has more of a chance against Wlad than anyone else around in todays lacklustre HW divison and had he took the fight and won without any pay he would have still set himself up for huge paydays.
But I wouldn't go to work if I wasn't going to get paid and really why should anyone? Haye signed a contract that was surprising to say the least, with all the rematch clauses and then not to get any money on top of that would have been a disgrace! So I think he was right to pull out although I was disappointed at first.
So Haye is the most dangerous fighter at heavyweight outside the Klitschko's...based on what??? David Haye has only proven that he can talk more at heavyweight than at cruiserweight.
As for his pulling out, why make up an injury??? Wlad is a nice guy, he's a smart guy why not just tell his management about Setanta's issues and try and renegotiate???? OH wait a second, they didn't do that because they were very difficult in negotiating the original contract.
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Lyle
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rjj tszyu
To answer the question at the top of the thread, I honestly think that Haye has more of a chance against Wlad than anyone else around in todays lacklustre HW divison and had he took the fight and won without any pay he would have still set himself up for huge paydays.
But I wouldn't go to work if I wasn't going to get paid and really why should anyone? Haye signed a contract that was surprising to say the least, with all the rematch clauses and then not to get any money on top of that would have been a disgrace! So I think he was right to pull out although I was disappointed at first.
So Haye is the most dangerous fighter at heavyweight outside the Klitschko's...based on what??? David Haye has only proven that he can talk more at heavyweight than at cruiserweight.
As for his pulling out, why make up an injury???
Wlad is a nice guy, he's a smart guy why not just tell his management about Setanta's issues and try and renegotiate???? OH wait a second, they didn't do that because they were very difficult in negotiating the original contract.
Was Setanta's troubles announced by then? If not, there is your answer.
Name a more dangerous heavyweight than Haye, or two if you can.
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
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izzywizzy
haye should have gone through with the fight. it was him that chased it up and got 65 000 fans interested enough to buy tickets, plane tickets, book hotel rooms, take time off work... he was so c*ck sure he was going to win and kept going on and on about how he was going to knock vladamir von trap out and then he pulls out.
everyones saying that he shouldnt fight for free because he might lose well if he's so sure he's going to win then what's the problem?
he should have fought for the glory and the fans. he would have got paid from setanta, they would have been legally obliged to pay him even if he had to take them to court. and he would now be world heavy weight champ and be able to comand millions of dollars worth of fights.
the only reason he pulled out was because he wasnt convinced he could win it after all that trash talk.
im really hoping he can get a rematch and vladamir knocks him out
If they have no money to trade and pay their bills what good would that do? Sue someone with no money?:cool:
He was probably hoping the fight would be postponed rather than someone else step in to his shoes, who knows.
Chagaev had/has more of a claim in fighting for the title than Haye did!
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Kel
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Lyle
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rjj tszyu
To answer the question at the top of the thread, I honestly think that Haye has more of a chance against Wlad than anyone else around in todays lacklustre HW divison and had he took the fight and won without any pay he would have still set himself up for huge paydays.
But I wouldn't go to work if I wasn't going to get paid and really why should anyone? Haye signed a contract that was surprising to say the least, with all the rematch clauses and then not to get any money on top of that would have been a disgrace! So I think he was right to pull out although I was disappointed at first.
So Haye is the most dangerous fighter at heavyweight outside the Klitschko's...based on what??? David Haye has only proven that he can talk more at heavyweight than at cruiserweight.
As for his pulling out, why make up an injury???
Wlad is a nice guy, he's a smart guy why not just tell his management about Setanta's issues and try and renegotiate???? OH wait a second, they didn't do that because they were very difficult in negotiating the original contract.
Was Setanta's troubles announced by then? If not, there is your answer.
Name a more dangerous heavyweight than Haye, or two if you can.
They're both named Klitschko
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
How thick must you be to think a pro fighter should fight for free? :rolleyes:
Do you morons realise fighters have expenses - training, travel, manager, trainer, sparring partners, etc.. who the fuck pays for all that if Haye is getting nothing? Fucks sake :rolleyes:
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
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Howlin Mad Missy
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Kel
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Lyle
So Haye is the most dangerous fighter at heavyweight outside the Klitschko's...based on what??? David Haye has only proven that he can talk more at heavyweight than at cruiserweight.
As for his pulling out, why make up an injury??? Wlad is a nice guy, he's a smart guy why not just tell his management about Setanta's issues and try and renegotiate???? OH wait a second, they didn't do that because they were very difficult in negotiating the original contract.
Was Setanta's troubles announced by then? If not, there is your answer.
Name a more dangerous heavyweight than Haye, or two if you can.
They're both named Klitschko
Other than the batty boys
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
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Fenster
How thick must you be to think a pro fighter should fight for free? :rolleyes:
Do you morons realise fighters have expenses - training, travel, manager, trainer, sparring partners, etc.. who the fuck pays for all that if Haye is getting nothing? Fucks sake :rolleyes:
hahaha
I know mate!
Would be interesting to see how many of these people would go to work for a week for absolutely no pay...
Bet your life none of them would
End of.
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smashup
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Fenster
How thick must you be to think a pro fighter should fight for free? :rolleyes:
Do you morons realise fighters have expenses - training, travel, manager, trainer, sparring partners, etc.. who the fuck pays for all that if Haye is getting nothing? Fucks sake :rolleyes:
hahaha
I know mate!
Would be interesting to see how many of these people would go to work for a week for absolutely no pay...
Bet your life none of them would
End of.
I wouldn't put it past some of these jameses.
They are taking ridiculous thickness to a new level. Fact.
Re: Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"
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ClubberLang
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JT Rock
Douglas and Tyson was not a mega event of this magnitude. Wlad couldnt draw 61k people on his own. It was Haye and his fanfare.
That's nonsense; Haye fought Barrett in his own backyard and barely drew 5000. Wlad is massive in Germany. So, yes, the vast majority of the 61,000 came to see Wlad.
They came because they thought they were going to see Wlad in a real fight... for a WORLD TITLE
Why would sports fans pay to see Haye fight a journey man that they have never heard of for a NON TITLE fight.
Consider all the factors that draw in crowds next time.
Selling 61,000 because people think they are going to see Haye and Wlad fight for the WORLD TITLE is not the same as selling 5000 to see Haye fight somebody they've never heard of in a relatively meaningless non title bout.
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Fenster
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smashup
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
How thick must you be to think a pro fighter should fight for free? :rolleyes:
Do you morons realise fighters have expenses - training, travel, manager, trainer, sparring partners, etc.. who the fuck pays for all that if Haye is getting nothing? Fucks sake :rolleyes:
hahaha
I know mate!
Would be interesting to see how many of these people would go to work for a week for absolutely no pay...
Bet your life none of them would
End of.
I wouldn't put it past some of these jameses.
They are taking ridiculous thickness to a new level. Fact.
:scratchchin:
