Greatest Fighters over 40 years old...

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by JonnyFolds

I want to put together a list of the greatest old champs. In order, of course. We have quite a few fighters that are timeless and find new ways to win. These guys show guts and whit when they possibly didn't have the reflexes anymore.


Archie Moore
B-Hop
Big George Foreman
Holyfield
RJJ
Tommy Hearns, maybe? (he won the vacant IBO cruiserweight at 41 yrs old)

You guys got any others?

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Larry Holmes he should of won the world title at 45.

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Against who?:confused:

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Originally Posted by porkypara

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by JonnyFolds

I want to put together a list of the greatest old champs. In order, of course. We have quite a few fighters that are timeless and find new ways to win. These guys show guts and whit when they possibly didn't have the reflexes anymore.


Archie Moore
B-Hop
Big George Foreman
Holyfield
RJJ
Tommy Hearns, maybe? (he won the vacant IBO cruiserweight at 41 yrs old)

You guys got any others?

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Larry Holmes he should of won the world title at 45.

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Against who?:confused:

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Some believe Holmes deserved the McCall decision. Personally, I thought it was close, but Oliver sneaked it by having a late rounds rally.

WOW I totaly forgot about that fight.

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Originally Posted by ICB

JCC wasn't too bad past 40 he beat Willy Wise in the rematch, and beat good fighters like Frankie Randall, Ivan Robinson.

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I dont know about that one ICB.Legend no doubt but Chavez was hanging on by the skin of his teeth.Names alone were Randall and Robinson then & shot to pieces, many moons past good.Fact he was rematching nice guy Wise said it really.Always burned me that it took 9,10 years to go against Randall again after the 2nd fight.

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Originally Posted by ICB

JCC wasn't too bad past 40 he beat Willy Wise in the rematch, and beat good fighters like Frankie Randall, Ivan Robinson.

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Hate to correct you but those three JCC beat in his over 40 world tour were just shot fighters by the time JCC beat them.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Shane Mosely is getting close to this club imo and Antonio Tarver deserves a mention along with Glen Johnson of course, both winning titles at 40 I believe.

I'm not that clued up on Archie Moore so I may be wrong here but isn't a lot of the reason he's considered so far ahead of everyone else in some part down to nostalgia?

I mean against the elite he got knocked out, Ali, Patterson, Marciano all ko'd him whilst Hopkins has not only been highly competitive with the current elite at plus 40 years of age but he's beaten and completely schooled some of them.

In an absolute sense you'd have to think that a 44 year old B Hop would have too much for a 44 year old Archie.

It should also be noted of course that Archie was able to do what is apparently impossible and that is come down in weight sometimes dropping 20 or 30 lbs and winning against top opposition like Yvonne Durell, another catchweight fight I do believe :)

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Not nostalgia. The fact that Moore was 45 or 48 when he gave up the title says a shit load as to his ability.

Current? maybe "Hands of Stone" or "Macho Camacho" could still step into the ring with the "Hitman".....

Somehow I feel that the last statement completely closed this thread. But yeah, hitman needs another shot old guy to beat up on, me thinks.

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Originally Posted by JonnyFolds

Somehow I feel that the last statement completely closed this thread. But yeah, hitman needs another shot old guy to beat up on, me thinks.

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HillII;)