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This should be a great match-up man. Seriously, i'm lookin forward to this so much. I listened to a great interview with Paul Williams a short while back, he is certainly the real deal and if he is to be believed he'll fight absolutely anybody to prove he is the best and he certainly won't top out against Pavlik, theres room for bigger...... Ha.....Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfrnk
I give Pavlik a punchers chance, but even his Legendary concussive right has been showed to be a bit overrated.
Kelly Absolutely has to set his feet before he throws, if you look at any Pavlik fight thats apparent, if he dosent have a chance to set his feet then he pushes his punches and looks terribly awkward...
Williams has great Rythm, footwork and volume.. I can see him stopping Pavlik quite easily 9-10. Kelly is a basic 1-2 fighter who tries to apply pressure, he dosent have plan B and as long as that cocky bastard Loew trains him he will never get any better since they are all under the assumption that his opponents are going to stand in front of Kelly and allow him to punch a whole through them.
Williams volume and agression is scary, he will punch kelly anywhere and every were, he can fight long he can fight short on the inside, when tied up he does that crazy shit where he uppercuts across his body with his free hand that looks 10ft long. He will side step, turn and spin Pavlik around the whole fight..
Hurts me but you're right at almost everything you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Yeah, not sure how effective Jack Loew's only plan of a double jab, and throwing the overhand right will be. ;)
Only because I don't like the way Pavlik dicked Sergio around, I hope Williams beats him convincingly. Not sure it will happen, just hoping. ;D
Williams by TKO/KO?! I mean, i think it's a fair fight, but I don't see Williams knocking out Kelly.. BHOP landed plenty of flush shots and all it did was stun him.. Taylor landed some bombs and almost had him out but couldn't finish.. I don't think Williams should even think of going into this fight with KO on his mind because that will mean he will have to sit on his punches a bit more, leaving him more vulnerable to get hit. He will need to punch and move like he normally does.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleI think Williams stops Pavlik late...he's a southpaw, he can carry his power, he throws punches in volume, and he's got a very solid chin, I am sure he will pay close attention to defense fighting someone like Pavlik.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Pavlik beats Williams. If Williams can be stunned by a welterweight easily as Quintana and Margarito has shown. I think Pavlik will stop him. Once Williams get's hit by one of Kelly's power shots to the body I don't think Williams' skinny rail of a frame will hold up to that type of power. Williams will give him fits but he will not hurt Kelly. Kelly by TKO.
Williams on points or a Pavlik KO. Either the Hopkins fight or something affected Pavlik, I'm sure not all the negative stuff we've heard recently is all true but he's definitely having problems. But he's going to be punching hard at 160 and that's his best chance. It could be fight of the year.
I think it'll be the same song and dance, pavlik will land some shots yes, but the couple of extremly hard ones in comparison to the two and a half million williams will throw will be the difference. Like trying to swat a bunch of flies with a tennis racket with two strings he'll get a couple but not nearly enough.
Another angle to look at is Williams punch output. I've said this quite a few times Williams does have a high punch output but Pavlik himself throws 100 punches a round. And with power behind it. Williams could throw more than 100 punches a round against welterweight's and against a frozen Winky Wright. I just want to see now if Williams can do it with someone who is just as tall as him, will be much bigger,and constantly pressuring him. Kelly is no defensive wizard nor a boxer. His game is pressure and honestly Margarito didn't even put much pressure on Williams until the very late stages of the fight and still landed with great effect on Williams. This will be a FOTY candidate without a doubt but it could end quickly with Kelly being the victor IMO.
I was never sold on Pavlik. He has a good punch and that's about it. Easy win for Williams. You heard me, Easy.
Pavlik has a pretty high output, but we haven't really seen it in recent fights. Williams will work his way to a decision here because he throws awkward and plenty. Pavlik will get lost on the angles. Williams by outworking him to a decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fightfan
Really looking forward to this one but don't think it will be as competitive or exciting as others are hoping for. I see Paul utilizing his superior hand & foot speed en route to a decision. Winky had a very tough time countering Paul because of the sheer volume he was throwing at Kelly will have the same problem. Kelly "can" be a volume puncher but he only is if his opponent comes straightforward as he likes which I doubt Paul will do. Paul will give Pavlik angles and turn him a bit like De La Hoya-Pacquiao and will land 3 or 4 shots everytime he does. Williams like Hopkins will prove too quick and awkward for Pavlik.
Paul Williams will give Kelly Pavlik alot of angles though, and Kelly Pavlik needs to set his feet too punch. Which is why he couldn't land nothing on B-Hop. Also Paul Williams has a 7 inch reach advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
But i still do think people are underestimating Kelly Pavlik, remember he can still bang and he moved up too many weightclasses. Against B-Hop which is why he looked sluggish and it wasn't all too do with B-Hop either.
And remember Paul Williams hasn't ever fought a puncher, except for Walter Dario Matthysse. But that was at Welterweight not Middleweight, we don't know how good Paul Williams chin is really.
The smart money is with Paul Williams, and im going with Paul Williams myself. But i wouldn't be suprised if Kelly Pavlik was able to lay him out, he does hit pretty hard.
Williams by UD.Pavlik needs time to set his double jab then the straight right.He will not be aloud to get his timing as Williams will be throwing punches at him all night long.
Today I'm 60-40 on it;D.Pavlik.Williams is very live in this one though.But make no mistake,Williams is nooo Hopkins.Bernard could feint Pavlik into big mistakes,had him second guessing his next move and a think a big factor was mental as well.Hopkins was in his head.Williams just does not fight his height,reach.And he has never been hit like he will be vs.Pavlik and never went against that size.