Re: What is the greatest achievement of Roy Jones Jr's Career?
Also, I know some people write off the McCallum win but I think that's rather a good win on RJJ's record.
McCallum was a fine technician (young, aspiring boxers should be studying tapes of this man) and boxers whose style has its foundation in technical soundness usually do well as old men. Technique is what let Toney do well more than 50 pounds above his natural weight class and it's what let Hopkins hand out a boxing lesson against a much younger man. It's what let McCallum go the distance with a prime(arguably) RJJ.
Re: What is the greatest achievement of Roy Jones Jr's Career?
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Also, I know some people write off the McCallum win but I think that's rather a good win on RJJ's record.
McCallum was a fine technician (young, aspiring boxers should be studying tapes of this man) and boxers whose style has its foundation in technical soundness usually do well as old men. Technique is what let Toney do well more than 50 pounds above his natural weight class and it's what let Hopkins hand out a boxing lesson against a much younger man. It's what let McCallum go the distance with a prime(arguably) RJJ.
Roy always respected McCallum even in the early days when he was a contender and McCallum was a champion. Roy probably took it easy on the old fighter and could have stepped it up if he wanted.
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jokaleras
Also, I know some people write off the McCallum win but I think that's rather a good win on RJJ's record.
McCallum was a fine technician (young, aspiring boxers should be studying tapes of this man) and boxers whose style has its foundation in technical soundness usually do well as old men. Technique is what let Toney do well more than 50 pounds above his natural weight class and it's what let Hopkins hand out a boxing lesson against a much younger man. It's what let McCallum go the distance with a prime(arguably) RJJ.
Roy always respected McCallum even in the early days when he was a contender and McCallum was a champion. Roy probably took it easy on the old fighter and could have stepped it up if he wanted.
I see. Still McCallum was a damn fine fighter. His first fight with Toney is one of my favorite fights.
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jokaleras
Also, I know some people write off the McCallum win but I think that's rather a good win on RJJ's record.
McCallum was a fine technician (young, aspiring boxers should be studying tapes of this man) and boxers whose style has its foundation in technical soundness usually do well as old men. Technique is what let Toney do well more than 50 pounds above his natural weight class and it's what let Hopkins hand out a boxing lesson against a much younger man. It's what let McCallum go the distance with a prime(arguably) RJJ.
Roy always respected McCallum even in the early days when he was a contender and McCallum was a champion. Roy probably took it easy on the old fighter and could have stepped it up if he wanted.
I see. Still McCallum was a damn fine fighter. His first fight with Toney is one of my favorite fights.
Agreed I thought he won the first two fights against Toney. He was a brilliant fighter.
Re: What is the greatest achievement of Roy Jones Jr's Career?
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Who else can start a career at Light Middle and wind up winning the Heavyweight crown?
Seriously, look through history and ask your self, who could of done it?
The answer? No one.
Roy was Superman :cool:
To answer your question: if his LHW bout had been either: inside [Like Jones']; 12 rounds [like Jones']; or he had taken on fluids before the fight, Sugar Ray Robinson would have been LHW champ by a landslide UD.
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Roy Jones beat Jeff Lacy last night with ease basically, but whilst he was fighting I got thinking about this. The commentators said that great fights make great fighters and gave the examples of Leonard having Hearns and Hagler and Ali having Frazier but Roy Jones never really had that career defining moment where he had to go to a dark place in a fight and come out fighting and ultimately winning! A lot of Jones fans, me included will say it wasn't really his fault that he was too good for his own good and he didn't have anyone along the lines of a Hagler or Hearns to test him, but it doesn't change the fact that he never had that moment in his prime.
So I basically think that when you have a look back at Jones' career you have to define how good he was by his achievements in boxing rather than his great fights (or lack of). So i got thinking then about what are his greatest achievements and decided I'd put them into a poll on here and see what people think are his greatest moments! Please vote for yours whether you are a Jones fan or not!
I'm going with Returning to KO Montell Griffin he earned this fight with his fists not his mouth
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Jimboogie
Who else can start a career at Light Middle and wind up winning the Heavyweight crown?
Seriously, look through history and ask your self, who could of done it?
The answer? No one.
Roy was Superman :cool:
To answer your question: if his LHW bout had been either: inside [Like Jones']; 12 rounds [like Jones']; or he had taken on fluids before the fight, Sugar Ray Robinson would have been LHW champ by a landslide UD.
Yes but he asked who else could move from 154 to haevy, not 147 to light heavy
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SRR
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Jimboogie
Who else can start a career at Light Middle and wind up winning the Heavyweight crown?
Seriously, look through history and ask your self, who could of done it?
The answer? No one.
Roy was Superman :cool:
To answer your question: if his LHW bout had been either: inside [Like Jones']; 12 rounds [like Jones']; or he had taken on fluids before the fight, Sugar Ray Robinson would have been LHW champ by a landslide UD.
Yes but he asked who else could move from 154 to haevy, not 147 to light heavy
My bad, misread on the fly :-X
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by the way i think Roy being the only fighter being able to avoid every punch in a round is wrong.
If i'm correct in the Hopkins - Hakkar fight :), Hopkins was able to avoid all of Hakkar's shots, can't remember which round it was.
I don't mean to be a smartass but did Morrades Hakkar even throw a punch in that fight? I am being dead serious I must have missed the one he did throw and B-Hop slipped or blocked.
