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Originally Posted by Bert
Yes no can beat him, because he never actually slug. He gives one straight then clinch, use his elbow to separate then throw cheap shots again, use his glove and shoulder to hide his chin then run.
Then do this over and over again.
I love to see PBF bangged with Cotto or Pac toe-to-toe and see what he's made of.
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Paul Williams, beat this guy and NOBODY will critisize PBF ever again. Heck he could even retire for good and nobody should even dare critisize him as being in the top 10 ATG's.
But you know that won't happen. Just ask yourself which would be the bigger payday and go down from there. The Mosley-Cotto winner will give him the most money and he won't have a problem waiting until then. Then he'll consider a Mosley if he's still relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Why would he Bang with anyone? Thats not his game! Thats like saying Ichiro Suzuki isnt a good batter cos he dont slug home runs all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bert
Yes no can beat him, because he never actually slug. He gives one straight then clinch, use his elbow to separate then throw cheap shots again, use his glove and shoulder to hide his chin then run.
Then do this over and over again.
I love to see PBF bangged with Cotto or Pac toe-to-toe and see what he's made of.
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Why dont u say lets see Pac or Cotto try out box Floyd without throwing big punches and see how they go?
PBF has worked out a winning formula and is sticking with it, u cannot blame him for that.
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Originally Posted by eagleWhy would he Bang with anyone? Thats not his game! Thats like saying Ichiro Suzuki isnt a good batter cos he dont slug home runs all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bert
Yes no can beat him, because he never actually slug. He gives one straight then clinch, use his elbow to separate then throw cheap shots again, use his glove and shoulder to hide his chin then run.
Then do this over and over again.
I love to see PBF bangged with Cotto or Pac toe-to-toe and see what he's made of.
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Why dont u say lets see Pac or Cotto try out box Floyd without throwing big punches and see how they go?
PBF has worked out a winning formula and is sticking with it, u cannot blame him for that.
He always play it safe, sometimes you have to show the world he can stand with anybody by not playing chicken. He always comes clean after the fight cause PBF has no guts sticking his chin.
Yes it's his game plan you may call it, but Hatton lost because he's to darn occupied chasing PBF and eager to KTFHO he lost focus.
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Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleWhy would he Bang with anyone? Thats not his game! Thats like saying Ichiro Suzuki isnt a good batter cos he dont slug home runs all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by spade
Why dont u say lets see Pac or Cotto try out box Floyd without throwing big punches and see how they go?
PBF has worked out a winning formula and is sticking with it, u cannot blame him for that.
He always play it safe, sometimes you have to show the world he can stand with anybody by not playing chicken. He always comes clean after the fight cause PBF has no guts sticking his chin.
Yes it's his game plan you may call it, but Hatton lost because he's to darn occupied chasing PBF and eager to KTFHO he lost focus.
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Fuck off, Hatton lost the BOXING match because he isnt as good a BOXER as Floyd. He lost focus cos everytime he tried something he got punched in the face. Floyd would have beaten Hatton 99 times out of 100.
Floyd stood toe to toe with plenty of guys when he was fighting in the smaller divisions, if u cared to watch those fights. Do u even know he fought in lower divisions? As he moved up in weight he was mainly fighting guys with more power so had to box more. There is a difference between being chicken and being smart. Floyd is smart in the ring.
The sport is fucken boxing, not slugging or banging its boxing. The guys who win are generally the best boxers. There are guys who win fights through great defense, not everyone can be big punch KO artists. If u wanna see guys just throw hay makers go watch redneck tough man contests.
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Originally Posted by eagleQuote:
Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
He always play it safe, sometimes you have to show the world he can stand with anybody by not playing chicken. He always comes clean after the fight cause PBF has no guts sticking his chin.
Yes it's his game plan you may call it, but Hatton lost because he's to darn occupied chasing PBF and eager to KTFHO he lost focus.
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Fuck off, Hatton lost the BOXING match because he isnt as good a BOXER as Floyd. He lost focus cos everytime he tried something he got punched in the face. Floyd would have beaten Hatton 99 times out of 100.
Floyd stood toe to toe with plenty of guys when he was fighting in the smaller divisions, if u cared to watch those fights. Do u even know he fought in lower divisions? As he moved up in weight he was mainly fighting guys with more power so had to box more. There is a difference between being chicken and being smart. Floyd is smart in the ring.
The sport is fucken boxing, not slugging or banging its boxing. The guys who win are generally the best boxers. There are guys who win fights through great defense, not everyone can be big punch KO artists. If u wanna see guys just throw hay makers go watch redneck tough man contests.
I'm one of those who were never convinced he is great. Sugar Ray Leonard wont beat him at WW, even Duran will be frustrated with his antics and say "no mas", KO artist like Hearns will be chasing wind with PBF and lost.
But i can't rate him higher than the three i've mention.
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Have your just said u think he would beat all those 3 guys but u cant rate him higher? Hmm interesting logic. Just cos a guy isnt exciting doesnt mean he isnt great.Quote:
Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleQuote:
Originally Posted by spade
Fuck off, Hatton lost the BOXING match because he isnt as good a BOXER as Floyd. He lost focus cos everytime he tried something he got punched in the face. Floyd would have beaten Hatton 99 times out of 100.
Floyd stood toe to toe with plenty of guys when he was fighting in the smaller divisions, if u cared to watch those fights. Do u even know he fought in lower divisions? As he moved up in weight he was mainly fighting guys with more power so had to box more. There is a difference between being chicken and being smart. Floyd is smart in the ring.
The sport is fucken boxing, not slugging or banging its boxing. The guys who win are generally the best boxers. There are guys who win fights through great defense, not everyone can be big punch KO artists. If u wanna see guys just throw hay makers go watch redneck tough man contests.
I'm one of those who were never convinced he is great. Sugar Ray Leonard wont beat him at WW, even Duran will be frustrated with his antics and say "no mas", KO artist like Hearns will be chasing wind with PBF and lost.
But i can't rate him higher than the three i've mention.
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yeah, pbf could probably beat those greats but we'll never know, just like we'll never know if he can beat the best crop of fighters in his division coz he's never faced them.
Not yet anyway. How come everyone acts as tho he is a 6ft Welterweight who has never fought below that weight. His problem is he probably moved up too quick, should have hung around at 135-140 for longer and just moved up now. He isnt a natural Welter anymore than Pac is cos naturally they are the same size. I never hear anyone say Pac wont be a great til he fights a genuine welter. Its just Pac stayed at the lower weights longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
In reality the only one of those 3 he should be mentioned with is Duran cos he was a similiar size, both Leonard and ?Hearns were much bigger guys.
I voted other... The IRS by 1st round KO.
I guess he should fight Hatton again (oh yes, and beating Hatton in one round would be enough to dethrone Pacman on P4P seat) , or dela hoya again (he will think twice with this one I guess).
If that doesnt work then he should have a rematch with Marquez and prove he can knock the guy out in late rounds
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Spade you are insane if you think SRL and Hearns could not beat Floyd, first he would not fight them as they were too dangerous and secondly they would massacre him. Duran yes may be but Floyd would not beat a peak Tito, Shane or ODH.Quote:
Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleQuote:
Originally Posted by spade
Fuck off, Hatton lost the BOXING match because he isnt as good a BOXER as Floyd. He lost focus cos everytime he tried something he got punched in the face. Floyd would have beaten Hatton 99 times out of 100.
Floyd stood toe to toe with plenty of guys when he was fighting in the smaller divisions, if u cared to watch those fights. Do u even know he fought in lower divisions? As he moved up in weight he was mainly fighting guys with more power so had to box more. There is a difference between being chicken and being smart. Floyd is smart in the ring.
The sport is fucken boxing, not slugging or banging its boxing. The guys who win are generally the best boxers. There are guys who win fights through great defense, not everyone can be big punch KO artists. If u wanna see guys just throw hay makers go watch redneck tough man contests.
I'm one of those who were never convinced he is great. Sugar Ray Leonard wont beat him at WW, even Duran will be frustrated with his antics and say "no mas", KO artist like Hearns will be chasing wind with PBF and lost.
But i can't rate him higher than the three i've mention.
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Thank you - Some fuckin idiots don't realise that Mayweather has been in his fair share of wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleQuote:
Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
He always play it safe, sometimes you have to show the world he can stand with anybody by not playing chicken. He always comes clean after the fight cause PBF has no guts sticking his chin.
Yes it's his game plan you may call it, but Hatton lost because he's to darn occupied chasing PBF and eager to KTFHO he lost focus.
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Fuck off, Hatton lost the BOXING match because he isnt as good a BOXER as Floyd. He lost focus cos everytime he tried something he got punched in the face. Floyd would have beaten Hatton 99 times out of 100.
Floyd stood toe to toe with plenty of guys when he was fighting in the smaller divisions, if u cared to watch those fights. Do u even know he fought in lower divisions? As he moved up in weight he was mainly fighting guys with more power so had to box more. There is a difference between being chicken and being smart. Floyd is smart in the ring.
The sport is fucken boxing, not slugging or banging its boxing. The guys who win are generally the best boxers. There are guys who win fights through great defense, not everyone can be big punch KO artists. If u wanna see guys just throw hay makers go watch redneck tough man contests.
If he needs to, he can stand and trade. You wanna know how Floyd handles adversity? Check him out against DeMarcus Corley - Buzzed and hurt at the beggining of the round, he composes himself and beats the living daylights out of Corley for the rest of the round.
Check out his fight against Emmanuel Augustus/Burton - He got stuck in and traded.
If you hurt Floyd, he is hurting you back twice as bad. A good example was when Marquez landed in the 2nd round. Look what happened?
He is not the pussy, some people think.
Come on, he would destroy Tito peak or otherwise!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSpade you are insane if you think SRL and Hearns could not beat Floyd, first he would not fight them as they were too dangerous and secondly they would massacre him. Duran yes may be but Floyd would not beat a peak Tito, Shane or ODH.Quote:
Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
I'm one of those who were never convinced he is great. Sugar Ray Leonard wont beat him at WW, even Duran will be frustrated with his antics and say "no mas", KO artist like Hearns will be chasing wind with PBF and lost.
But i can't rate him higher than the three i've mention.
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Shane or ODH would be tough though