Yea this proves how lackluster an opponent Diaz was...

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so what ur saying is pbf and pac had handpicked weak opponents thus should not be given the praise they are getting. those are two of the most known fighters in boxing and they dont deserve it. is it safe to say that boxing knowadays aint worth shiet? ofcourse there are other boxer out there but this are two of the best nowadays.

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no, they don't deserve the praise of being considered top 20 p4p ATG much less top 10 p4p ATG, hell and popularity doesn't mean shit when it comes to their place in history, if so Mike Tyson and Oscar De La Hoya would have easily be top 5 p4p easy, and anyone who knows two shits of boxing knows that that couldn't be farther from the truth

are Pacquiao and Mayweather great talents? without a doubt

have either done enough to even be considered greatest of all time? no, not even close, both have hand picked plenty of their opponents at the right time to make them look great, key examples, Mayweather/Marquez and Pacquiao/DLH, both have taken on bums when there was a live opponent available in that given weight class, Mayweather/Brusseles when it could have been Mayweather/Hatton or Mayweather/Tszyu and Pacquiao/Diaz when it could have been Pacquiao/ Juan Diaz or Pacquiao/Katsidis

there's not much of a difference between Pacquiao and Mayweather, besides the fact that one is leaps and bounds more talented (Floyd), and the other is usually more entertaining (Manny)

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Just get over it Elterrible... its just a waste of your time mate.. both pac and pbf are nothing to you.. they are good boxers happens to be in the right time at the right place.. both fought a meaningless fight so are the other 10,000+++ boxers around the world.. just rate them where you want..

"no, they don't deserve the praise of being considered top 20 p4p ATG much less top 10 p4p ATG" ElTerribleMorales

Noone ever said they were in this thread. Not once.

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"no, they don't deserve the praise of being considered top 20 p4p ATG much less top 10 p4p ATG" ElTerribleMorales

Noone ever said they were in this thread. Not once.

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both you and pro-moron, are just that morons, pretty dense really

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"no, they don't deserve the praise of being considered top 20 p4p ATG much less top 10 p4p ATG" ElTerribleMorales

Noone ever said they were in this thread. Not once.

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both you and pro-moron, are just that morons, pretty dense really

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No need to be always combative ElTerrible. :rolleyes:

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I'm not interested in standing toe to toe attempting to land haymakers in a brawl that is often reduced to a display of unintelligent low blows.

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Moron? Your a bum bum head!

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"no, they don't deserve the praise of being considered top 20 p4p ATG much less top 10 p4p ATG" ElTerribleMorales

Noone ever said they were in this thread. Not once.

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both you and pro-moron, are just that morons, pretty dense really

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hey how old are you kid.. grow up.. you're acting like a baby.. f*ckin idiot..

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"no, they don't deserve the praise of being considered top 20 p4p ATG much less top 10 p4p ATG" ElTerribleMorales

Noone ever said they were in this thread. Not once.

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both you and pro-moron, are just that morons, pretty dense really

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hey how old are you kid.. grow up.. you're acting like a baby.. f*ckin idiot..

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funny how you guys like to dish out the insults when anyone questions your all mighty Pacquiao, yet can't handle it when it comes full force back at you :rolleyes: pretty pathetic bunch really

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both you and pro-moron, are just that morons, pretty dense really

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hey how old are you kid.. grow up.. you're acting like a baby.. f*ckin idiot..

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funny how you guys like to dish out the insults when anyone questions your all mighty Pacquiao, yet can't handle it when it comes full force back at you :rolleyes: pretty pathetic bunch really

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hey im not a pac nutsh*t nor pbf lover either.. im only countering your insult on both fighter.. i did not insult you kid.. you're the one calling names around here.. pathetic.. you yourself can't handle debate the mature way.. go to your school kid i think you have classes today..

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hey how old are you kid.. grow up.. you're acting like a baby.. f*ckin idiot..

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funny how you guys like to dish out the insults when anyone questions your all mighty Pacquiao, yet can't handle it when it comes full force back at you :rolleyes: pretty pathetic bunch really

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hey im not a pac nutsh*t nor pbf lover either.. im only countering your insult on both fighter.. i did not insult you kid.. you're the one calling names around here.. pathetic.. you yourself can't handle debate the mature way.. go to your school kid i think you have classes today..

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hahaha son you didn't read half of the thread and come here bitching what i said, if you don't like what i have to say, well too bad cause i'm gonna say it anyways, and the fact is that both Mayweather and Pacquiao are premadonnas and try to make their record look better than it actually is, both are great fighters (like i said) but that's for the bunch of fighters that are around today, neither Floyd nor Manny have got shit on the likes of Whitaker, Robinson, Ali, Arguello, Louis, etc., fighters that are TRUELY top 20 p4p ATG material, Mayweather and Pacquiao don't come close to that, sorry

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funny how you guys like to dish out the insults when anyone questions your all mighty Pacquiao, yet can't handle it when it comes full force back at you :rolleyes: pretty pathetic bunch really

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hey im not a pac nutsh*t nor pbf lover either.. im only countering your insult on both fighter.. i did not insult you kid.. you're the one calling names around here.. pathetic.. you yourself can't handle debate the mature way.. go to your school kid i think you have classes today..

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hahaha son you didn't read half of the thread and come here bitching what i said, if you don't like what i have to say, well too bad cause i'm gonna say it anyways, and the fact is that both Mayweather and Pacquiao are premadonnas and try to make their record look better than it actually is, both are great fighters (like i said) but that's for the bunch of fighters that are around today, neither Floyd nor Manny have got shit on the likes of Whitaker, Robinson, Ali, Arguello, Louis, etc., fighters that are TRUELY top 20 p4p ATG material, Mayweather and Pacquiao don't come close to that, sorry

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primadonna like you.. jajaja.. tu es stupido..

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hey im not a pac nutsh*t nor pbf lover either.. im only countering your insult on both fighter.. i did not insult you kid.. you're the one calling names around here.. pathetic.. you yourself can't handle debate the mature way.. go to your school kid i think you have classes today..

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hahaha son you didn't read half of the thread and come here bitching what i said, if you don't like what i have to say, well too bad cause i'm gonna say it anyways, and the fact is that both Mayweather and Pacquiao are premadonnas and try to make their record look better than it actually is, both are great fighters (like i said) but that's for the bunch of fighters that are around today, neither Floyd nor Manny have got shit on the likes of Whitaker, Robinson, Ali, Arguello, Louis, etc., fighters that are TRUELY top 20 p4p ATG material, Mayweather and Pacquiao don't come close to that, sorry

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primadonna like you.. jajaja.. tu es stupido..

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yea you really got me there :rolleyes: jaja y tu lo cojes por el culo ;D