Strategies that backfired big time!

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Originally Posted by Nameless

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well, that's taking a page out of the Leftylee book almost...WTF is TM thinking sending his wife in there to get beaten up?

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TM is not a bad person at heart but his ego is absolutely fucked up and he has no problems to lie or to present the truth in a funny way in order to look like he's on the stage; His wife won the toughman contest, he so thought that she was a pure fighting machine... guess what happened when she met some real boxers.... mangled. Plus, TM thinks that if you get in the ring and get injured that's your problem as you did pay for the ticket, there is even a topic about it floating in the archives: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ssa-rivas.html

Read the whole, it is creepy and pathetic.

If you want, I can also post you my last correspondence with Paul, as he insulted me galore and dared to say that he was the best trainer in V.A and that I don't know shit about boxing, I am feeling a bit vindicative and feel the urge to help him get a reality check. In this correspondance, he states that the Mayweather did plot to get his cornerman for his wife against Rivas to get his passport stolen, that the judges had their money on Rivas, hehnce why they were complaisant toward her and that the whole Trinidad was hoaxing against them too. not bad, isn't it?

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....wow, that is odd and depressing

Wow this is a hard one to tackle. So many fights, so many mistakes. Anyone see the Giavanni Segura/Cesar Canchila fight at 108 a couple months ago?

Segura come out guns blazing in the first round, and unloaded all the ammo in the 2nd he has left. Then is was the most pathetic thing you ever seen. This guy who decked his opponent twice in the first 6 minutes is gasping for air trying to make it to the final bell. Canchila weathered the early storm and took the decision.

Segura sparked him in the rematch in the 4th a couple months later..

the daddy of all f*ck ups as gotta be hatton against manny

spent months telling us all about this new found style that included a solid jab, better defence etc, yet the whole time not one single person taught him how to counteract mannys main attribute which is that diving left hand which he counters with every time a fighter trys to lunge in.

ended up getting nailed with it on at least a dozen occasions and was laid flat out by the time the bell was rung for the 2nd!!

Jermain Taylor seemingly NEVER learning from past experiences vs Bernard Hopkins X2 (though he won both, in real life and IMO), Kelly Pavlik x 2 (though a case could be made about the rematch), and recently vs Carl Froch.....can someone either get JT to do roadwork, or stop partying, or just go back to utilizing that jab that used to be so good?!?!?! FFS he never should have lost to Froch OR the rematch to Pavlik.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Jermain Taylor seemingly NEVER learning from past experiences vs Bernard Hopkins X2 (though he won both, in real life and IMO), Kelly Pavlik x 2 (though a case could be made about the rematch), and recently vs Carl Froch.....can someone either get JT to do roadwork, or stop partying, or just go back to utilizing that jab that used to be so good?!?!?! FFS he never should have lost to Froch OR the rematch to Pavlik.

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Definitely. Matter of fact, he shouldn't have even lost the first time to Pavlik skillwise.

If JT stuck and moved the way he was brought up to do then he would still be unbeaten, but time and time again he loads up on the overhand right and he never lays anyone out with it....his career post Hopkins is MOST disappointing

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well, that's taking a page out of the Leftylee book almost...WTF is TM thinking sending his wife in there to get beaten up?

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Def.Just a little TMI up front

I dont know what strategy he was going for but Nate Campbell/Pedan 1 backfired in a huge way

The main one that came to mind for me was Danny Williams v Matt Skelton where he seemed to think that getting as big as he could would give him a power advantage.

Danny comes in at 16lbs heavier than he's ever fought, and was so slow he could barely catch Skelton to hit him, and Skelton's plan of boxing Williams and staying out of trouble works a dream, and is a nightmare for spectators. I know, I nearly cut my wrists late in the fight, but the edge of the plastic seats at the Millenium stadium aren't sharp enough.

Whoever that boxer that fought Arce was that spent 90% of the fight covering up.

Mayorga leaving himself open to body shots from Trinidad that eventually took their toll.

Forrest vs. Mayorga. If anything, Forrest should have stuck with his original gameplan.

Byrd thinking he could pull a combination of Sanders and Brewster on Klitschko.

Judah thinking he could show how tough he was and get up from the canvas immediately.

De La Hoya not sticking that jab in Mayweather's face. "The jab wasn't working for me." It can only work when you use it.

Hatton fighting outside England.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well, that's taking a page out of the Leftylee book almost...WTF is TM thinking sending his wife in there to get beaten up?

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Def.Just a little TMI up front

I dont know what strategy he was going for but Nate Campbell/Pedan 1 backfired in a huge way

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I wish there would be some saddo observers at some time on our myspace forum, we were all horrified and he kept rolling with his donkey comments as if it was pure gold.

Roy Jones vs Glen Johnson - Jones doing nothing but smiling and acting like he wasn't worried while Glen is smashing him to no end.

Dela Hoya vs Pacquiao - Oscar thought making the smaller guy move up two division and him going down one would assure himself an easy big payday fight.

Barrera vs Morales I,II,III - Eric slugging with marco instead of using his natural advantages. If Eric had he would of won everytime over Marco.

JMM vs Floyd - JMM team thinking they could counter or box floyd whom is better at both plus bigger and faster.

Anyone mentioned Hatton?

Deciding to charge Manny and block with his face instead of his hands. That was a bad call

Was it strategic that Margarito started slow against Paul Williams?

Cotto's constant movement to evade Margarito proved his own undoing.

Herol Graham's change in strategy to pursue the wounded Jackson.

I have to say Hearns going toe-to-toe was a bad idea and especially Hatton trying to be a slick Mayweatherish fighter.

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Originally Posted by 0james0

Anyone mentioned Hatton?

Deciding to charge Manny and block with his face instead of his hands. That was a bad call

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Hey thats what he learn in the gym.. ehh

thought by the greatest of all time.. not this time, that time, 5 time but of all time...