Whats Jermain Taylors Chance Saturday Night?

I think it will be a similar to fight to the Winky Wright one, but Abraham has more power so will either stop him late or will win the decision seeing as its Germany rather than Memphis.

I don't think Abraham is overrated or anything, I just think the strategy he uses is too similar to Bernard Hopkins...he likes for the other fighter to get going so he can start to counter, well JT will take 4 rounds if you give him 4 rounds and in a 12 round fight where JT already has 4 rounds all he needs is 3 more, you're going to have to really press him to KO him and with that good jab and if he has a little better stamina or defense he'll win a decision.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

I think JT has a great chance because AA fights a bit like Hopkins in that he will give away a couple rounds before he gets going. Taylor will need to win rounds 1-4, stay close 5-9, and then win 1 round of 10-12 and he'll be the winner, EXACT same format as the Hopkins fights.

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I doubt he will get the decision in Germany if it will be as close as Hopkins fights but I agree Jermain has a good chance here, in fact I’ll go with him in this one; like you said AA use to give away a few rounds before he gets going and also he doesn’t have a strong pace like Pavlik or Froch.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I would love Jermain to win, and I think if he fights a perfect fight he can pull it off but the closer it gets the less I like his chances. A few weeks ago I would have said Taylor had a great chance, but maybe realisitically not so much.

I actually have the feeling Abraham is somewhat overated and will underperform in this tournament so Taylor will have a chance, but I think in Germany, in front of his own fans Abraham will be too much.

We all generally feel that Taylor needs to ko Abraham to win or at least put him down but really Abraham has never once displayed a weak jaw, (even when it almost fell off) and Taylor despite flooring both Pavlik and Froch is not a big puncher really, certainly his career doesn't indicate that.

The irony is that Taylor's best performances have been when he's lost. The first Pavlik fight and the Froch loss are the performances that most of us base his chances on.

but the truth is his 'wins' are actually less impressive. The guy who plodded cluelesslly around the ring against Cory Spinks, who almost lost and was beaten up against Winky Wright, who couldn't finish a junior middleweighti in Ouma who has since lost his last half dozen or so fights etc is hardly a guy you'd think would have any shot at winning this.

The truth is the Jeff Lacy fight is the only fight in the last 5 years or so where Taylor actually won without controversy.

His wins over Hopkins and Spinks are still disputed to this day, most feel he was very lucky indeed to get a draw with Winky, and his performance over Ouma was mediocre at best.

His other fights since then he's lost them all.

A betting man would be unswise to think he could string 6 wins together against such tough opposition now,certainly, his past form has done nothing to merit it.

He's a bit like Audley (although much better) in that we will always say he has the tools, but realisitically he's not going to use them to win.

Abraham for me actually represents his best chance, if he loses this he is not only done in the tournament but I think he will be pulled out and Green brought in.

I am rooting for him, but I won't be expecting.

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i take exception with that; the only significant blow Winky landed was a head butt, which blinded JT on that side, and forced him into survival mode. It was an ugly fight, and Winky kept keying in on that blind eye; JT actually showed a lot of heart and durability in that fight, and Winky showed that he couldn't finish a severely disadvantaged JT.

...speaking of Winky why has he disappeared? I know he's older now but at 160-175 he could still contend there.

Anyway, AA is going to find out it's difficult to give rounds away to a guy that can box, it's different when you do it to Edison Miranda who is just a slugger, there's no real threat of Miranda doing his thing over the distance and limiting the damage you do to him.

JT has hurt Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch, it'll be interesting if he connects big vs Abraham

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Originally Posted by Lyle

...speaking of Winky why has he disappeared? I know he's older now but at 160-175 he could still contend there.

Anyway, AA is going to find out it's difficult to give rounds away to a guy that can box, it's different when you do it to Edison Miranda who is just a slugger, there's no real threat of Miranda doing his thing over the distance and limiting the damage you do to him.

JT has hurt Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch, it'll be interesting if he connects big vs Abraham

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Agreed.

I think tWinky would have been an excellent addition to the super six, and further would add even more depth and provide some quality competition the 168lbs division. He would have been an excellent gate keeper for the Andre's.

imo winky isnt a gatekeeper yet, i think he would beat both andres, lose a close pts to froch, taylor about even and then lose to kessler - but do better than b hop would if he fought kessler.

on another note, i think b hop would be more than willing to participate if someone dropped out, would be amazing!

taylors about to be robbed in germany




you heard it here first....

Taylor getting knocked out tonight.

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

taylors about to be robbed in germany




you heard it here first....

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. . . . .robbed of his senses

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Originally Posted by GAME

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

taylors about to be robbed in germany




you heard it here first....

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. . . . .robbed of his senses

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I think JT should come back down to middleweight where he enjoys a size advantage over his opponents. As if tonight he did not enjoy a size advantage over King Arthur who might be the smallest man in the tournament:-\

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

taylors about to be robbed in germany




you heard it here first....

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You're as accurate as ever Hammer... :p

Been sayin' it for the past 3 years now...Arthur Abraham MUST BE ACKNOWLEDGED!!!

While that sounds like a fool ass statement...it's the truth.

It's time for everyone to finally acknowledge Art as a World Champion & not just a good Euro boxer.

Too much power.
Too much defense.
Too much of a heavyweight fwockin fighter trapped in a midget's body.

For real...I love my guy an' all that...but somebody's gotta draw & quarter that bitch!!!

Hail to the King baby.
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Now...with all that blowin' & suckin' & tuggin' outta the way...on to the question...I honestly thought Taylor might have a chance...of lasting past the 6th. I was surprised that he did.

Oh well...Taylor shoulda always kept Pat Burns...that's all I'ma say bout that. Ozzell's about as handy in a pinch as a vibratin' buttplug!

Wacko out!!

Been sayin' it for the past 3 years now...Arthur Abraham MUST BE ACKNOWLEDGED!!!

While that sounds like a fool ass statement...it's the truth.

It's time for everyone to finally acknowledge Art as a World Champion & not just a good Euro boxer.

Too much power.
Too much defense.
Too much of a heavyweight fwockin fighter trapped in a midget's body.

For real...I love my guy an' all that...but somebody's gotta draw & quarter that bitch!!!

Hail to the King baby.
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Now...with all that blowin' & suckin' & tuggin' outta the way...on to the question...I honestly thought Taylor might have a chance...of lasting past the 6th. I was surprised that he did.

Oh well...Taylor shoulda always kept Pat Burns...that's all I'ma say bout that. Ozzell's about as handy in a pinch as a vibratin' buttplug!

Wacko out!!