Majority fans and analysts don't know S**T about boxing!!!

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Originally Posted by amat

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Originally Posted by amat

I've made like a dozen phone calls regarding boxing this week alone. My phone is practically ringing off the hook (although I do most of the calling), it's been quite a time. I subscribe to that informal theory that the number of phone calls one makes is what determines who's in the know. I figure I have to rank up there this week, I can truly say I sympathize with the likes of Gary Shaw and Dan Rafael, fat men (not me) who talk all day on bluetooths (that's speculation.)

But if we're going off predictions I predicted Julio Cesar Chavez Jr's last 10 fights all accurately.

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Sounds like this guy knows his stuff.

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It sounds like that guy is spinning off the planet into outta space..

But you can't really argue with his logic...

Well I guess I plead utter dumbfukkery about this boxing thingy then.Damn,all those wasted years ugh...I have been back and forth on this one and do believe,Now,that Cotto will upend the Pacquiao train Sat night.On the other end I can absolutely envision a scenario where Manny tenderizes Cottos face into a mess,early or late.A stoppage does not have to translate into an physical dominance,having to be a stronger puncher and keeping an opponent on the canvas for it to be realized.Back to the result though....I think Pac walks into some stiff shots as it goes rounds like he has not tasted over the last few years.Think a bloody Cotto stops him in 10.

I heard he was being modest when he said a dozen. You guys don't even know. That's the problem.

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Lawton KO joker was a fucking inspired pick, the guy only had 5 KO's in 26 wins, and he did it! And Matt Vanda came through, Matt Vanda, I was one of only two people on here to pick Vanda and CFH screwed it up by going with a UD. This just reinforces the fact that I am one of the few that knows what's up.

Fenster, um, he tries hard and is to be commended!

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

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Lawton KO joker was a fucking inspired pick, the guy only had 5 KO's in 26 wins, and he did it! And Matt Vanda came through, Matt Vanda, I was one of only two people on here to pick Vanda and CFH screwed it up by going with a UD. This just reinforces the fact that I am one of the few that knows what's up.

Fenster, um, he tries hard and is to be commended!

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I picked Jason to beat George which was exactly correct. Of course I had a little help once they told me Jason was taking things seriously I knew he would win. Oh and I picked Brian Minto KO when he fought on national tv a year or so ago.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

It's even more moronic to claim Pac can't KO Cotto early.

You're gonna look like a proper mug should this happen. Pac has a serious speed advantage, he hits hard, Cotto doesn't have a great chin.

Good luck. ;)

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but he could take all the mosley could throw at him... the problem is although cotto can be stunned he recovers very quickly ... he wont still be wobbling round on bambi legs a minute later like hatton was in the first round


pac couldnt put a dent in DLH who was a sitting target, hatton had been hurt by a non - puncher in lazcano before this fight

I don't think Pacquiao will KO Cotto because of the way Cotto hides his chin but I do think Cotto will get cut above the eyes for the same reason. I don't see them stopping the fight though because boxing's starting to get interesting again and that would just confuse a curious public. I think Pacquiao will win by decision. I think the fact that he's had three "easy" fights will actually work to his advantage. I think if Pacquiao fought a Morales 1 or Marquez 2 type war before this fight he'd get frustrated, eventually stand toe to toe with and get killed by Cotto. I think power will be the last thing on his mind. He'll be on his toes all night thinking speed, speed, speed in-score-out. As the fight progresses he'll land more combinations but a Cotto counter will keep him honest. I do think that if Cotto attempts to defend Pacquiao's straight lefts with the same shoulder roll parry he uses against left jabs he'll get caught by the same punch that hit Hatton later on in the fight though I don't see him getting KO'd. I think Roach has planned this. Plenty of speedy lead lefts like those used on De la Hoya early setting up the wide looping left hook.

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Originally Posted by jahmez

I don't think Pacquiao will KO Cotto because of the way Cotto hides his chin but I do think Cotto will get cut above the eyes for the same reason. I don't see them stopping the fight though because boxing's starting to get interesting again and that would just confuse a curious public. I think Pacquiao will win by decision. I think the fact that he's had three "easy" fights will actually work to his advantage. I think if Pacquiao fought a Morales 1 or Marquez 2 type war before this fight he'd get frustrated, eventually stand toe to toe with and get killed by Cotto. I think power will be the last thing on his mind. He'll be on his toes all night thinking speed, speed, speed in-score-out. As the fight progresses he'll land more combinations but a Cotto counter will keep him honest. I do think that if Cotto attempts to defend Pacquiao's straight lefts with the same shoulder roll parry he uses against left jabs he'll get caught by the same punch that hit Hatton later on in the fight though I don't see him getting KO'd. I think Roach has planned this. Plenty of speedy lead lefts like those used on De la Hoya early setting up the wide looping left hook.

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And fair thoughts they arrggh too.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

And it's making me sick to my stomach. Being an avid boxing fan, I'm quite amped up for the Cotto/Pac showdown. What's really irking me is how so many MORONS out there who claim to know anything about boxing, actually beleive that Pac will stop Cotto specifically in the early rounds!!!!???

Are you kidding me!? It's bad enough for those who see Pac as a 3-1 favorite but to think he will stop Cotto?!!? Do these so called boxing fans and critics know anything at all about Cotto? Cotto has taken the best shots from Zab and Mosley and was never knocked down (I mention these 2 fighters specifically as they are in the same vicininty in terms of speed as Pac but hit much harder!). Cotto took a pounding from a huge 147lb'r in Marg and STILL wasn't knocked down...that too with possible plaster'd wraps.

How anyone thinks Pac who is coming up in weight to a prime Cotto at 145lb (still a bitch move on Pac's team to force Cotto to meet 145lb and fight a possibley weight drained Cotto ala ODH) is beyond me.
Unless the weight drain has effected Cotto (we'll know this in the first few rounds) there is no way IMO, that Pac stops Cotto...in fact, I'm calling Cotto to win a UD.

Too many people are getting carried with Pac's 2 previous wins over 'keeping my hands down Hatton' and a past his prime, severly weight drained ODH. People really need to wakeup and put things into perspective...

I will say this...It's a releif at least on this forum it's more evenly split in terms who posters feel will win...but others forums and articles I've read have Pac an 8-1 favorite!?!? Unbelievable

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Your Quote " The majority of fans don't know shit about boxing " ?
Well let me start by saying , that personally I am going for a PACMAN win inside 6 rounds . But i like both fighters as they are exciting to watch , and I will be happy whoever wins.
As for opinions like mine " making you sick to your stomach" I find this laughable at best.
Not only should you take time away from masturbating furiously over pictures of the love of your life Cotto , myself and many other fine posters on Saddo's were watching boxing when your were a "GLINT IN THE MILKMAN'S EYE" . If by any chance you are not a prepubescent teen , then you are a mere idiot.
So to sum up your Highness , every one's opinions differ , that's what makes boxing great to watch and discuss.
More to the point thats what makes SADDO BOXING GREAT.
The prosecution rests.

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No need to repeat myself , but as i said at the time you are an idiot. ;D

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

And it's making me sick to my stomach. Being an avid boxing fan, I'm quite amped up for the Cotto/Pac showdown. What's really irking me is how so many MORONS out there who claim to know anything about boxing, actually beleive that Pac will stop Cotto specifically in the early rounds!!!!???

Are you kidding me!? It's bad enough for those who see Pac as a 3-1 favorite but to think he will stop Cotto?!!? Do these so called boxing fans and critics know anything at all about Cotto? Cotto has taken the best shots from Zab and Mosley and was never knocked down (I mention these 2 fighters specifically as they are in the same vicininty in terms of speed as Pac but hit much harder!). Cotto took a pounding from a huge 147lb'r in Marg and STILL wasn't knocked down...that too with possible plaster'd wraps.

How anyone thinks Pac who is coming up in weight to a prime Cotto at 145lb (still a bitch move on Pac's team to force Cotto to meet 145lb and fight a possibley weight drained Cotto ala ODH) is beyond me.
Unless the weight drain has effected Cotto (we'll know this in the first few rounds) there is no way IMO, that Pac stops Cotto...in fact, I'm calling Cotto to win a UD.

Too many people are getting carried with Pac's 2 previous wins over 'keeping my hands down Hatton' and a past his prime, severly weight drained ODH. People really need to wakeup and put things into perspective...

I will say this...It's a releif at least on this forum it's more evenly split in terms who posters feel will win...but others forums and articles I've read have Pac an 8-1 favorite!?!? Unbelievable

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Yep, you got that right! Some boxing fans don't know shit! The fight should have been stopped during the 9th, Cotto was shot after the 2nd knockdown, he ran for the rest of the fight.

sanchez is the one who doe'snt know what he's talking about :rolleyes: see what happens to big mouth pretenders? they eat their own shit! ;D

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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

And it's making me sick to my stomach. Being an avid boxing fan, I'm quite amped up for the Cotto/Pac showdown. What's really irking me is how so many MORONS out there who claim to know anything about boxing, actually beleive that Pac will stop Cotto specifically in the early rounds!!!!???

Are you kidding me!? It's bad enough for those who see Pac as a 3-1 favorite but to think he will stop Cotto?!!? Do these so called boxing fans and critics know anything at all about Cotto? Cotto has taken the best shots from Zab and Mosley and was never knocked down (I mention these 2 fighters specifically as they are in the same vicininty in terms of speed as Pac but hit much harder!). Cotto took a pounding from a huge 147lb'r in Marg and STILL wasn't knocked down...that too with possible plaster'd wraps.

How anyone thinks Pac who is coming up in weight to a prime Cotto at 145lb (still a bitch move on Pac's team to force Cotto to meet 145lb and fight a possibley weight drained Cotto ala ODH) is beyond me.
Unless the weight drain has effected Cotto (we'll know this in the first few rounds) there is no way IMO, that Pac stops Cotto...in fact, I'm calling Cotto to win a UD.

Too many people are getting carried with Pac's 2 previous wins over 'keeping my hands down Hatton' and a past his prime, severly weight drained ODH. People really need to wakeup and put things into perspective...

I will say this...It's a releif at least on this forum it's more evenly split in terms who posters feel will win...but others forums and articles I've read have Pac an 8-1 favorite!?!? Unbelievable

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Yep, you got that right! Some boxing fans don't know shit! The fight should have been stopped during the 9th, Cotto was shot after the 2nd knockdown, he ran for the rest of the fight.

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Gotta say it was a brave thread to start really. I'm not saying I knew that was going to be the outcome (I actually had money on a Pac decision, so i was pissed when the ref stopped it especially when he had plenty of more acceptable times to stop it earlier) but anyone who said they knew either fighter would definitly win and couldn't believe how stupid so many were being so close to fight time was very brave (and stupid ;D ) IMO.

This is me eating crow, Pac is THE man, Floyd can go fuck himself he's already been outdone at Welter in only Pac's 2nd fight there and Floyds been there for years.

Ll i have nothing to say all pacquiao critics eats their word again and again. Lol Pacquiao your a moster. Where did you come from?

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

And it's making me sick to my stomach. Being an avid boxing fan, I'm quite amped up for the Cotto/Pac showdown. What's really irking me is how so many MORONS out there who claim to know anything about boxing, actually beleive that Pac will stop Cotto specifically in the early rounds!!!!???

Are you kidding me!? It's bad enough for those who see Pac as a 3-1 favorite but to think he will stop Cotto?!!? Do these so called boxing fans and critics know anything at all about Cotto? Cotto has taken the best shots from Zab and Mosley and was never knocked down (I mention these 2 fighters specifically as they are in the same vicininty in terms of speed as Pac but hit much harder!). Cotto took a pounding from a huge 147lb'r in Marg and STILL wasn't knocked down...that too with possible plaster'd wraps.

How anyone thinks Pac who is coming up in weight to a prime Cotto at 145lb (still a bitch move on Pac's team to force Cotto to meet 145lb and fight a possibley weight drained Cotto ala ODH) is beyond me.
Unless the weight drain has effected Cotto (we'll know this in the first few rounds) there is no way IMO, that Pac stops Cotto...in fact, I'm calling Cotto to win a UD.

Too many people are getting carried with Pac's 2 previous wins over 'keeping my hands down Hatton' and a past his prime, severly weight drained ODH. People really need to wakeup and put things into perspective...

I will say this...It's a releif at least on this forum it's more evenly split in terms who posters feel will win...but others forums and articles I've read have Pac an 8-1 favorite!?!? Unbelievable

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Your Quote " The majority of fans don't know shit about boxing " ?
Well let me start by saying , that personally I am going for a PACMAN win inside 6 rounds . But i like both fighters as they are exciting to watch , and I will be happy whoever wins.
As for opinions like mine " making you sick to your stomach" I find this laughable at best.
Not only should you take time away from masturbating furiously over pictures of the love of your life Cotto , myself and many other fine posters on Saddo's were watching boxing when your were a "GLINT IN THE MILKMAN'S EYE" . If by any chance you are not a prepubescent teen , then you are a mere idiot.
So to sum up your Highness , every one's opinions differ , that's what makes boxing great to watch and discuss.
More to the point thats what makes SADDO BOXING GREAT.
The prosecution rests.

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No need to repeat myself , but as i said at the time you are an idiot. ;D

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First of all, this is a boxing forum so stick to boxing. Please share your thoughts on masturbation with your mother as I'm sure she would be more then happy to oblige.

Secondly, I will be the first to admit that my prediction was wrong and for the record, I'm also a Pac fan as well (read my other posts). It was the REASONING behind the odds is what didn't make sense to me. It seems everyone was basing the outcome of this fight on Pac's performance against Hatton and ODLH which is what I didn't understand. Those are not examples once should use to determine odds but regardless it was a great fight.

If only Cotto stuck to his jab and pick his spots like he did the first round but when he somewhat abandoned it and started to trade with Pac, he was in trouble.

The deciding factor in this fight was not only Pac's speed, but the unorthodox angle he throws his punches. What's amazing is there were times Cotto landed some flush punches but it didn't even phase Pac! I thought once Pac tastes Cotto power, he would be reluctant to trade but that was not the case at all which is what really perplexed me.

Regardless, this was a great for boxing fans! It's time to bring out Mayweather!

In the meantime Dark Lord Al, you can resume your erotic thoughts on breastfeeding as it appears your mother cut you off a tad to early...or to late.