Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
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I agree with this red stuff above.
Khan is supposedly a champion now and in the big league. But I haven't seen him beat a top fighter yet (and don't even go near the Barrera fight!). Khan needs to face someone decent, but I don't think he will. We will see Warren milk him as long as possible before the inevitable throw into the wolves. Might be a good while yet.
The fault is with the alphabet "world" titles not with Khan. Loads of "world" champions are not the top of their division.
Recently some Barrera fans were happy to see he has a chance of becoming "world" champion again by fighting Paulus Moses for his WBA title. There are 7 fighters ranked above the "world" champ according to The Ring, and Saddo ratings doesn't even have him listed ;)
I have abstained from too much of that talk regarding Barrera, so will stay quiet on that.
As for Khan...Well, I do partly blame him. He gets hated because he fights nobody good. We can blame the belts, or we can blame Warren or we can blame Khan. Khan is the man signing the contracts so he is the man I will gun for.
Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
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The fault is with the alphabet "world" titles not with Khan. Loads of "world" champions are not the top of their division.
Recently some Barrera fans were happy to see he has a chance of becoming "world" champion again by fighting Paulus Moses for his WBA title. There are 7 fighters ranked above the "world" champ according to The Ring, and Saddo ratings doesn't even have him listed ;)
I have abstained from too much of that talk regarding Barrera, so will stay quiet on that.
As for Khan...Well, I do partly blame him. He gets hated because he fights nobody good. We can blame the belts, or we can blame Warren or we can blame Khan. Khan is the man signing the contracts so he is the man I will gun for.
Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
As i said this is not a dig at Khan , all im saying is he wont have proved anything to me , until he beats a world class puncher , until then he will always have a glass jaw , and the only puncher he has fought knocked him out.
Khan is skillful , and a nice kid , but has proved nothing we didnt already know, he has improved but lets see him fight a puncher next then ? that ok with you Fenster ?
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Dark Lord Al
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miles
I have abstained from too much of that talk regarding Barrera, so will stay quiet on that.
As for Khan...Well, I do partly blame him. He gets hated because he fights nobody good. We can blame the belts, or we can blame Warren or we can blame Khan. Khan is the man signing the contracts so he is the man I will gun for.
Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
As i said this is not a dig at Khan , all im saying is he wont have proved anything to me , until he beats a world class puncher , until then he will always have a glass jaw , and the only puncher he has fought knocked him out.
Khan is skillful , and a nice kid , but has proved nothing we didnt already know, he has improved but lets see him fight a puncher next then ? that ok with you Fenster ?
Whether he beats a puncher or not he'll always have a glass jaw. I know what you're saying though ;)
You can't blame Khan for being "world" champion though. He beat the guy that beat Maidana. ;)
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I read an article recently with a number of quotes from Freddie.
Freddie stated the first thing he worked on was reducing Kahns muscle mass, thus increasing his flexibilty and speed
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On another part of the aftermath , did anyone else notice the Naseem Hamed shaped BLIMP that Khan and his handlers had with them in the ring after the fight ?
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He wore Green instead of a silver or gold sequin suit;D
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Lets see Khan fight Tim Bradley , and then we can see how improved he is.
Bradley is not the biggest puncher out there , but has improved since the Witter fight , and he has a pretty solid chin. Lets see Khan outbox Bradley and show us something we dont know about him .
What say you guys ?
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I'm all for Khan to be put in with someone like Bradley and I think he'll do a lot better than people think.
The more people hate on Khan then more I want him to do well. He's a little green when it comes to the media he's definitely confident in himself which people mistake as arrogance.
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Dark Lord Al
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I have abstained from too much of that talk regarding Barrera, so will stay quiet on that.
As for Khan...Well, I do partly blame him. He gets hated because he fights nobody good. We can blame the belts, or we can blame Warren or we can blame Khan. Khan is the man signing the contracts so he is the man I will gun for.
Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
As i said this is not a dig at Khan , all im saying is he wont have proved anything to me , until he beats a world class puncher , until then he will always have a glass jaw , and the only puncher he has fought knocked him out.
Khan is skillful , and a nice kid , but has proved nothing we didnt already know, he has improved but lets see him fight a puncher next then ? that ok with you Fenster ?
Which world class puncher would you like to see him face at 140?
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ono
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Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
As i said this is not a dig at Khan , all im saying is he wont have proved anything to me , until he beats a world class puncher , until then he will always have a glass jaw , and the only puncher he has fought knocked him out.
Khan is skillful , and a nice kid , but has proved nothing we didnt already know, he has improved but lets see him fight a puncher next then ? that ok with you Fenster ?
Which world class puncher would you like to see him face at 140?
Well Randall Bailey hits pretty hard, if Amir Khan could beat him he would get alot of credit. Or revenging the Breidis Prescott loss, or Marcos Rene Maidana, Victor Ortiz, Juan Urango, they all have good power.
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As i said this is not a dig at Khan , all im saying is he wont have proved anything to me , until he beats a world class puncher , until then he will always have a glass jaw , and the only puncher he has fought knocked him out.
Khan is skillful , and a nice kid , but has proved nothing we didnt already know, he has improved but lets see him fight a puncher next then ? that ok with you Fenster ?
Which world class puncher would you like to see him face at 140?
Well Randall Bailey hits pretty hard, if Amir Khan could beat him he would get alot of credit. Or revenging the Breidis Prescott loss, or Marcos Rene Maidana, Victor Ortiz, Juan Urango, they all have good power.
I think he'd beat all of them.
He's already destroyed Victor Ortiz in the amateurs so i don't think he'd be too worried about him. Maidana is slow and predictable and if Hatton can outbox Urango, i'd imagine Khan should be able to do so. I think Prescott's stock will have dropped too much for that fight to happen, but i'm sure Kahn can beat him...although he'd have to get on his bike because Prescott would come swinging again.
I reckon he should go for Paulie. He's coming off a good win and doesn't hit hard. It gives Khan another training camp with Roach to keep on improving. Paulie will probably take him the 12 aswell and he'd most likely learn a fair bit from it. Paulie is also more marketable in the UK than any of the above.
Would you give him credit for beating Paulie? Or would you prefer him to face a puncher?
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Which world class puncher would you like to see him face at 140?
Well Randall Bailey hits pretty hard, if Amir Khan could beat him he would get alot of credit. Or revenging the Breidis Prescott loss, or Marcos Rene Maidana, Victor Ortiz, Juan Urango, they all have good power.
I think he'd beat all of them.
He's already destroyed Victor Ortiz in the amateurs so i don't think he'd be too worried about him. Maidana is slow and predictable and if Hatton can outbox Urango, i'd imagine Khan should be able to do so. I think Prescott's stock will have dropped too much for that fight to happen, but i'm sure Kahn can beat him...although he'd have to get on his bike because Prescott would come swinging again.
I reckon he should go for Paulie. He's coming off a good win and doesn't hit hard. It gives Khan another training camp with Roach to keep on improving. Paulie will probably take him the 12 aswell and he'd most likely learn a fair bit from it. Paulie is also more marketable in the UK than any of the above.
Would you give him credit for beating Paulie? Or would you prefer him to face a puncher?
Well Ono i think he would beat all of them aswell, but again he's only fought one puncher who he lost to. And i think there will always be that question mark, until he does beat a puncher.
And to be honest i would love him to revenge the Breidis Prescott loss, because no matter what he does that loss will hang over him. I personally think he should box rings around him but you never know.
As for Paulie Malignaggi yes i would give Amir Khan credit for beating him, Paulie Malignaggi is a good boxer and has beaten some good opposition. And has been in there with some of the best, beating Paulie Malignaggi would be a good start and i have no problem with Amir Khan facing him.
But at some point in the near future, he must take on a puncher. And if i had my way i would like it to be Breidis Prescott, just so he can move on and revenge that loss.
Even though Kevin Mitchell defeated Breidis Prescott, i would still give Amir Khan credit for revenging his loss. And defeating a puncher, and if Breidis Prescott can do any one thing its punch hard.
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Well Randall Bailey hits pretty hard, if Amir Khan could beat him he would get alot of credit. Or revenging the Breidis Prescott loss, or Marcos Rene Maidana, Victor Ortiz, Juan Urango, they all have good power.
I think he'd beat all of them.
He's already destroyed Victor Ortiz in the amateurs so i don't think he'd be too worried about him. Maidana is slow and predictable and if Hatton can outbox Urango, i'd imagine Khan should be able to do so. I think Prescott's stock will have dropped too much for that fight to happen, but i'm sure Kahn can beat him...although he'd have to get on his bike because Prescott would come swinging again.
I reckon he should go for Paulie. He's coming off a good win and doesn't hit hard. It gives Khan another training camp with Roach to keep on improving. Paulie will probably take him the 12 aswell and he'd most likely learn a fair bit from it. Paulie is also more marketable in the UK than any of the above.
Would you give him credit for beating Paulie? Or would you prefer him to face a puncher?
Well Ono i think he would beat all of them aswell, but again he's only fought one puncher who he lost to. And i think there will always be that question mark, until he does beat a puncher.
And to be honest i would love him to revenge the Breidis Prescott loss, because no matter what he does that loss will hang over him. I personally think he should box rings around him but you never know.
As for Paulie Malignaggi yes i would give Amir Khan credit for beating him, Paulie Malignaggi is a good boxer and has beaten some good opposition. And has been in there with some of the best, beating Paulie Malignaggi would be a good start and i have no problem with Amir Khan facing him.
But at some point in the near future, he must take on a puncher. And if i had my way i would like it to be Breidis Prescott, just so he can move on and revenge that loss.
Even though Kevin Mitchell defeated Breidis Prescott, i would still give Amir Khan credit for revenging his loss. And defeating a puncher, and if Breidis Prescott can do any one thing its punch hard.
Agree 100%.
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ono
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I think he'd beat all of them.
He's already destroyed Victor Ortiz in the amateurs so i don't think he'd be too worried about him. Maidana is slow and predictable and if Hatton can outbox Urango, i'd imagine Khan should be able to do so. I think Prescott's stock will have dropped too much for that fight to happen, but i'm sure Kahn can beat him...although he'd have to get on his bike because Prescott would come swinging again.
I reckon he should go for Paulie. He's coming off a good win and doesn't hit hard. It gives Khan another training camp with Roach to keep on improving. Paulie will probably take him the 12 aswell and he'd most likely learn a fair bit from it. Paulie is also more marketable in the UK than any of the above.
Would you give him credit for beating Paulie? Or would you prefer him to face a puncher?
Well Ono i think he would beat all of them aswell, but again he's only fought one puncher who he lost to. And i think there will always be that question mark, until he does beat a puncher.
And to be honest i would love him to revenge the Breidis Prescott loss, because no matter what he does that loss will hang over him. I personally think he should box rings around him but you never know.
As for Paulie Malignaggi yes i would give Amir Khan credit for beating him, Paulie Malignaggi is a good boxer and has beaten some good opposition. And has been in there with some of the best, beating Paulie Malignaggi would be a good start and i have no problem with Amir Khan facing him.
But at some point in the near future, he must take on a puncher. And if i had my way i would like it to be Breidis Prescott, just so he can move on and revenge that loss.
Even though Kevin Mitchell defeated Breidis Prescott, i would still give Amir Khan credit for revenging his loss. And defeating a puncher, and if Breidis Prescott can do any one thing its punch hard.
Agree 100%.
Yes i pretty much agree , let Khan dominate a puncher of true class .
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Well Ono i think he would beat all of them aswell, but again he's only fought one puncher who he lost to. And i think there will always be that question mark, until he does beat a puncher.
And to be honest i would love him to revenge the Breidis Prescott loss, because no matter what he does that loss will hang over him. I personally think he should box rings around him but you never know.
As for Paulie Malignaggi yes i would give Amir Khan credit for beating him, Paulie Malignaggi is a good boxer and has beaten some good opposition. And has been in there with some of the best, beating Paulie Malignaggi would be a good start and i have no problem with Amir Khan facing him.
But at some point in the near future, he must take on a puncher. And if i had my way i would like it to be Breidis Prescott, just so he can move on and revenge that loss.
Even though Kevin Mitchell defeated Breidis Prescott, i would still give Amir Khan credit for revenging his loss. And defeating a puncher, and if Breidis Prescott can do any one thing its punch hard.
Agree 100%.
Yes i pretty much agree , let Khan dominate a puncher of true class .
There aint really any punchers with true class at 140. There are some hitters no doubt, but they're not so talented - Urango, Maidana for example.
