Re: Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?
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zbolt
khan handled barrera very well. khan will be able to give marquez a tough fight.
A one eyed MAB...
If Marquez gets butted and splits his eye where it makes him one eyed, well then I favor Khan as well. Otherwise Khan will get picked apart. If this fight was to be made it is tailor made for Marquez a masterful counter puncher. Khan is no where ready for that big of a step up.
If Khan was to win it would shut me up and I would never say anything negative about him again only if this fight happens soon, Marquez isnt getting any younger so maybe thats what they are waiting for.
Re: Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?
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Originally Posted by
markb018
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Originally Posted by
zbolt
khan handled barrera very well. khan will be able to give marquez a tough fight.
A one eyed MAB...
If Marquez gets butted and splits his eye where it makes him one eyed, well then I favor Khan as well. Otherwise Khan will get picked apart. If this fight was to be made it is tailor made for Marquez a masterful counter puncher. Khan is no where ready for that big of a step up.
If Khan was to win it would shut me up and I would never say anything negative about him again only if this fight happens soon, Marquez isnt getting any younger so maybe thats what they are waiting for.
you got a point about the age gap. a 23 year old vs. a 36 year old.
Re: Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?
Marquez is clearly a more skilled and poised fighter ...even at this stage of his career. That being said...not sure if his "pay day" fight against Floyd was his last hurrah. I am not sold on Khan at all...so until he steps up and fights much better competition (a past prime, one eyed Barrera doesn't count)...he will remain one of those "potential" fighters.
Re: Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?
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ICB
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No, it was after the MAB fight. If you're saying that he's the most mediocre titleist in modern day history, then yes, in a way you are saying he's shite. It's quite a statement to make.Especially after you predicted he'd knock Khan out - yes that was after the MAB fight aswell.I don't get how you don't think the Kotelnik fight means anything, yet you was so excited you had to start a thread about Mitchell beating Prescott.
I never said he would KO Amir Khan, i said maybe he can. I never ever made a comment where i thought Andriy Kotelnik was the favorite, i was just pointing out if he can take the early storm of Amir Khan, maybe he can get to him late, because at that point i'd never seen Amir Khan go 12 rounds.
Come on mate are you honestly picking me up on a comment, i made that long ago ? to be honest i don't think i said anything real different than im saying now, i said Andriy Kotelnik is decent but he is mediocre, there isn't many worst title holders than him in the last decade.
That doesn't mean he's shite that just means, he's not world championship calibre, and he won his title off again one of the worst title holders in the last decade. But i did give Amir Khan credit for going 12 rounds and winning, do you want me to show you that thread ? i don't see whats so wrong about me giving Kevin Mitchell credit.
He hasn't been in the spotlight like Amir Khan, has for quite awhile. And he moved up in weight comeback from injuries, and got a dominant win over a dangerous puncher, who destroyed the fighter you and Bilbo rate highly, so why wouldn't i give him credit ? i don't really know what your getting at.
Sorry mate my point wasn't to pick on you specifically. It was more a point of showing how people change their peception of an opponent after Khan beats them. It only relates to you because you said you'd give Khan credit for fighting Maidana (who you've admitted isn't that good - and i agree), Paulie, Holt, etc. I personally don't feel he'd get credit for beating some of them. The 3 main fighters he's get credit for beating would be Bradley, Alexander and Peterson. The rest, it would be too easy to pick out their faults and claim it's not surprising Amir beat them.
It's always been the case with Kahn.
Re: Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?
At light Welter, ofcourse.
Re: Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?
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ICB
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Jimboogie
Iv'e already seen how Marquez superior boxing skill is nullified by someone who can box moving backwards.
If anyone can, check out Marquez' fight with Julian Wheeler.
I know it was a 10th round stoppage but trust me, Wheeler was giving Marquez a bit of a boxing lesson before the ref brought on a pretty horrible premature stoppage.
I don't know if Marquez has fought someone who can fight in reverse gear as well since ???
JMM had only been a pro for 2 years and was nowhere near the fighter, he become. He was actually an aggressive come forward fighter, are you actually using that as an example ? come on mate that is seriously reaching for straws.
Rubbish! He was never an aggressive come forward fighter ???
Re: Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?
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Originally Posted by
Grinch
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
Jimboogie
Iv'e already seen how Marquez superior boxing skill is nullified by someone who can box moving backwards.
If anyone can, check out Marquez' fight with Julian Wheeler.
I know it was a 10th round stoppage but trust me, Wheeler was giving Marquez a bit of a boxing lesson before the ref brought on a pretty horrible premature stoppage.
I don't know if Marquez has fought someone who can fight in reverse gear as well since ???
JMM had only been a pro for 2 years and was nowhere near the fighter, he become. He was actually an aggressive come forward fighter, are you actually using that as an example ? come on mate that is seriously reaching for straws.
Rubbish! He was never an aggressive come forward fighter ???
Yes actually he was its not rubbish at all, i've seen most of his early fights and he was far more aggressive. Im not saying he was an overly aggressive fighter in the same league as someone like Erik Morales or ETC.
But he was alot more aggressive and he come forward far more, and you could see he wasn't nowhere the boxer that he eventually become. But really i don't see what your trying to prove.
JMM had only been a pro for 2 years, and i don't see how thats any type of argument to be honest. JMM in his peak would of clearly had beaten Julian Wheeler, and JMM has clearly beaten some very good boxers. And boxers with movement for example Joel Casamayor.
How many times has a great fighter not looked good, or lost to opponents he would of beaten at his peak ? Henry Armstrong, Manny Pacquiao, Alexis Arguello, ETC.
And to use that fight to say, thats why Amir Khan will beat JMM. Is as Skel picked me up on because i was tired, clutching at straws.
