Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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Jimmy G-Force
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littlebif
If Hatton comes back and looks good and gets the win against a decent opponent i wanna see him take a few shots to see if he has any punch resistance left! If he has i can see him taking on Khan and i would give him a good chance of beating him.Khan is very fast on his feet and with his hands but fighters can get close to him and hit him he isnt hard to hit.Khan isnt a southpaw with will help Hatton alot cause he is crap against them.
In the build up to the Pac fight he says he over trained but he also says he was getting beat up by sparing partners which is very worry and a big sign that he is past his best imo.He strugles with southpaws but by the end of his training he should of been used to them.
Over-trained is an understatement. He was clinically diagnosed with exhaustion 3 weeks before the fight. A 15 mile run in the morning in the hills, 12 rounds of sparring in the afternoon, and 10 miles on the treadmill at night. Also, Lee, Matthew and Ray told me that Floyd Snr looked like he was trying to break Rick.
I remember an incident with the medicine ball where Floyd Snr was throwing it very hard into the pit of Rick's stomach. Apparently Rick was in agony, and Lee pulled Rick out of that exercise, and a few sparring sessions when he was getting battered. This pissed off Floyd Snr and their friendship was severely strained through it. Rick told me that before the fight, he knew he only had 4 rounds in him so he tried to jump on Manny. The rest is history.
Like I said before, GBP tried to pull the fight with 3 weeks to go, thats fact.
Maybe to you, to the rest of us it's just conjecture & all part of the tried & tested Ricky Hatton 'blame it on the flu/ref/former trainer' patent.
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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JazMerkin
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Jimmy G-Force
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littlebif
If Hatton comes back and looks good and gets the win against a decent opponent i wanna see him take a few shots to see if he has any punch resistance left! If he has i can see him taking on Khan and i would give him a good chance of beating him.Khan is very fast on his feet and with his hands but fighters can get close to him and hit him he isnt hard to hit.Khan isnt a southpaw with will help Hatton alot cause he is crap against them.
In the build up to the Pac fight he says he over trained but he also says he was getting beat up by sparing partners which is very worry and a big sign that he is past his best imo.He strugles with southpaws but by the end of his training he should of been used to them.
Over-trained is an understatement. He was clinically diagnosed with exhaustion 3 weeks before the fight. A 15 mile run in the morning in the hills, 12 rounds of sparring in the afternoon, and 10 miles on the treadmill at night. Also, Lee, Matthew and Ray told me that Floyd Snr looked like he was trying to break Rick.
I remember an incident with the medicine ball where Floyd Snr was throwing it very hard into the pit of Rick's stomach. Apparently Rick was in agony, and Lee pulled Rick out of that exercise, and a few sparring sessions when he was getting battered. This pissed off Floyd Snr and their friendship was severely strained through it. Rick told me that before the fight, he knew he only had 4 rounds in him so he tried to jump on Manny. The rest is history.
Like I said before, GBP tried to pull the fight with 3 weeks to go, thats fact.
Maybe to you, to the rest of us it's just conjecture & all part of the tried & tested Ricky Hatton 'blame it on the flu/ref/former trainer' patent.
And you know better do you ?
I give you some inside information and you throw it back in my face. It is a fact, and you dont know either way, so until you do, button it. :-X
In my opinion Rick would have been beaten in his prime by that Manny. It just would have been a more competative fight.
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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Jimmy G-Force
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Jimmy G-Force
Over-trained is an understatement. He was clinically diagnosed with exhaustion 3 weeks before the fight. A 15 mile run in the morning in the hills, 12 rounds of sparring in the afternoon, and 10 miles on the treadmill at night. Also, Lee, Matthew and Ray told me that Floyd Snr looked like he was trying to break Rick.
I remember an incident with the medicine ball where Floyd Snr was throwing it very hard into the pit of Rick's stomach. Apparently Rick was in agony, and Lee pulled Rick out of that exercise, and a few sparring sessions when he was getting battered. This pissed off Floyd Snr and their friendship was severely strained through it. Rick told me that before the fight, he knew he only had 4 rounds in him so he tried to jump on Manny. The rest is history. Like I said before, GBP tried to pull the fight with 3 weeks to go, thats fact.
Maybe to you, to the rest of us it's just conjecture & all part of the tried & tested Ricky Hatton 'blame it on the flu/ref/former trainer' patent.
And you know better do you ?
I give you some inside information and you throw it back in my face. It is a fact, and you dont know either way, so until you do, button it. :-X
In my opinion Rick would have been beaten in his prime by that Manny. It just would have been a more competative fight.
Little bit tetchy aren't we. I never said I know better, but you don't get to become the oracle of all opinions on Hatton just because you know him.
You may say something as a fact, but if someone who knew Floyd Mayweather came in here & said it was a fact that someone in Manny's team sent those emails asking about if he failed a drugs test, would you automatically believe him or her?
I may agree with your last point about it being a more competitive fight, but it doesn't change the fact that what you say remains can just come off as Team Hatton spin to some of us.
If you've seen it with your own eyes, then fair enough, why would you give a fuck what people on some internet site say about it :confused:
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy G-Force
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
Maybe to you, to the rest of us it's just conjecture & all part of the tried & tested Ricky Hatton 'blame it on the flu/ref/former trainer' patent.
And you know better do you ?
I give you some inside information and you throw it back in my face. It is a fact, and you dont know either way, so until you do, button it. :-X
In my opinion Rick would have been beaten in his prime by that Manny. It just would have been a more competative fight.
Little bit tetchy aren't we. I never said I know better, but you don't get to become the oracle of all opinions on Hatton just because you know him.
You may say something as a fact, but if someone who knew Floyd Mayweather came in here & said it was a fact that someone in Manny's team sent those emails asking about if he failed a drugs test, would you automatically believe him or her?
I may agree with your last point about it being a more competitive fight, but it doesn't change the fact that what you say remains can just come off as Team Hatton spin to some of us.
If you've seen it with your own eyes, then fair enough, why would you give a fuck what people on some internet site say about it :confused:
I've just listened to your type before Jez, and my patience is thin after 10 years of it. It was the same crap after the Witter missing gates post, it was meant to be a bit of fun, that not many people knew about, but I found your 'hating' post after it pathetic, hence the reason I didnt reply.
It someone came on here, whom I respected and valued their opinion, and they told me something about another fighter then I would believe it. If you choose not to, without any evidence to the contrary, then so be it. There are Hatton fans on here that will be appreciative of any inside information they can get. And I'm only to happy give it, good or bad.
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy G-Force
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy G-Force
And you know better do you ?
I give you some inside information and you throw it back in my face. It is a fact, and you dont know either way, so until you do, button it. :-X
In my opinion Rick would have been beaten in his prime by that Manny. It just would have been a more competative fight.
Little bit tetchy aren't we. I never said I know better, but you don't get to become the oracle of all opinions on Hatton just because you know him.
You may say something as a fact, but if someone who knew Floyd Mayweather came in here & said it was a fact that someone in Manny's team sent those emails asking about if he failed a drugs test, would you automatically believe him or her?
I may agree with your last point about it being a more competitive fight, but it doesn't change the fact that what you say remains can just come off as Team Hatton spin to some of us.
If you've seen it with your own eyes, then fair enough, why would you give a fuck what people on some internet site say about it :confused:
I've just listened to your type before Jez, and my patience is thin after 10 years of it. It was the same crap after the Witter missing gates post, it was meant to be a bit of fun, that not many people knew about, but I found your 'hating' post after it pathetic, hence the reason I didnt reply.
It someone came on here, whom I respected and valued their opinion, and they told me something about another fighter then I would believe it. If you choose not to, without any evidence to the contrary, then so be it. There are Hatton fans on here that will be appreciative of any inside information they can get. And I'm only to happy give it, good or bad.
Nice to see you can bother to get my name right Jimmy. So I don't think everything Ricky Hatton does lovable & hilarious. Contrary to what you might think I quite like him as a fighter, I think he's far better than he gets credit for, but I don't have to approve of everything he does.
The fact is I don't know you from Adam. Tbh, I might believe what you say but it more comes down to the fact there's always been excuses from Team Hatton after a poor performance or defeat & that is what leaves me inclined to not just take what you say 100% on faith.
I have no problem with you giving out the info, I appreciate it, but I won't necessarily buy it all as fact without knowing for certain myself. But, this is a forum & if you post something you will likely have to deal with replies that you don't like.
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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Jimmy G-Force
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littlebif
If Hatton comes back and looks good and gets the win against a decent opponent i wanna see him take a few shots to see if he has any punch resistance left! If he has i can see him taking on Khan and i would give him a good chance of beating him.Khan is very fast on his feet and with his hands but fighters can get close to him and hit him he isnt hard to hit.Khan isnt a southpaw with will help Hatton alot cause he is crap against them.
In the build up to the Pac fight he says he over trained but he also says he was getting beat up by sparing partners which is very worry and a big sign that he is past his best imo.He strugles with southpaws but by the end of his training he should of been used to them.
Over-trained is an understatement. He was clinically diagnosed with exhaustion 3 weeks before the fight. A 15 mile run in the morning in the hills, 12 rounds of sparring in the afternoon, and 10 miles on the treadmill at night. Also, Lee, Matthew and Ray told me that Floyd Snr looked like he was trying to break Rick.
I remember an incident with the medicine ball where Floyd Snr was throwing it very hard into the pit of Rick's stomach. Apparently Rick was in agony, and Lee pulled Rick out of that exercise, and a few sparring sessions when he was getting battered. This pissed off Floyd Snr and their friendship was severely strained through it. Rick told me that before the fight, he knew he only had 4 rounds in him so he tried to jump on Manny. The rest is history. Like I said before, GBP tried to pull the fight with 3 weeks to go, thats fact.
Ummm, perhaps Hatton's camp were indeed trying to get him killed(and regardless of whether that was the case), your WAY off here bud. A 15 mile run in the morning, 12 rounds of sparring, than another 10 miles at night? Are you just pulling that out of your arse, and do you have ANY idea how ridiculous it would be? No fighter runs 15 miles in one stint at any point in their training, let alone someone who is five foot six with Hatton's build. I wouldn't doubt he over trained, but what you just said amounts to complete lunacy, it wouldn't even be plausible for any fighter in their right mind to do that on any given day.
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy G-Force
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JazMerkin
Little bit tetchy aren't we. I never said I know better, but you don't get to become the oracle of all opinions on Hatton just because you know him.
You may say something as a fact, but if someone who knew Floyd Mayweather came in here & said it was a fact that someone in Manny's team sent those emails asking about if he failed a drugs test, would you automatically believe him or her?
I may agree with your last point about it being a more competitive fight, but it doesn't change the fact that what you say remains can just come off as Team Hatton spin to some of us.
If you've seen it with your own eyes, then fair enough, why would you give a fuck what people on some internet site say about it :confused:
I've just listened to your type before Jez, and my patience is thin after 10 years of it. It was the same crap after the Witter missing gates post, it was meant to be a bit of fun, that not many people knew about, but I found your 'hating' post after it pathetic, hence the reason I didnt reply.
It someone came on here, whom I respected and valued their opinion, and they told me something about another fighter then I would believe it. If you choose not to, without any evidence to the contrary, then so be it. There are Hatton fans on here that will be appreciative of any inside information they can get. And I'm only to happy give it, good or bad.
Nice to see you can bother to get my name right Jimmy. So I don't think everything Ricky Hatton does lovable & hilarious. Contrary to what you might think I quite like him as a fighter, I think he's far better than he gets credit for, but I don't have to approve of everything he does.
The fact is I don't know you from Adam. Tbh, I might believe what you say but it more comes down to the fact there's always been excuses from Team Hatton after a poor performance or defeat & that is what leaves me inclined to not just take what you say 100% on faith.
I have no problem with you giving out the info, I appreciate it, but I won't necessarily buy it all as fact without knowing for certain myself. But, this is a forum & if you post something you will likely have to deal with replies that you don't like.
Fair play, I have just Repped you for that post. I'll hold my hand up and say my comment in hindsight was wrong.
With regards the trainer, not many people know that Floyd Snr was actually relieved of his training duties 2 weeks prior to the Manny fight.
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy G-Force
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
Little bit tetchy aren't we. I never said I know better, but you don't get to become the oracle of all opinions on Hatton just because you know him.
You may say something as a fact, but if someone who knew Floyd Mayweather came in here & said it was a fact that someone in Manny's team sent those emails asking about if he failed a drugs test, would you automatically believe him or her?
I may agree with your last point about it being a more competitive fight, but it doesn't change the fact that what you say remains can just come off as Team Hatton spin to some of us.
If you've seen it with your own eyes, then fair enough, why would you give a fuck what people on some internet site say about it :confused:
I've just listened to your type before Jez, and my patience is thin after 10 years of it. It was the same crap after the Witter missing gates post, it was meant to be a bit of fun, that not many people knew about, but I found your 'hating' post after it pathetic, hence the reason I didnt reply.
It someone came on here, whom I respected and valued their opinion, and they told me something about another fighter then I would believe it. If you choose not to, without any evidence to the contrary, then so be it. There are Hatton fans on here that will be appreciative of any inside information they can get. And I'm only to happy give it, good or bad.
Nice to see you can bother to get my name right Jimmy. So I don't think everything Ricky Hatton does lovable & hilarious. Contrary to what you might think I quite like him as a fighter, I think he's far better than he gets credit for, but I don't have to approve of everything he does.
The fact is I don't know you from Adam. Tbh, I might believe what you say but it more comes down to the fact there's always been excuses from Team Hatton after a poor performance or defeat & that is what leaves me inclined to not just take what you say 100% on faith.
I have no problem with you giving out the info, I appreciate it, but I won't necessarily buy it all as fact without knowing for certain myself. But, this is a forum & if you post something you will likely have to deal with replies that you don't like.
Jaz tut tut tut :rolleyes:
Just dont read anything placed on the forum in future, cos it may not be true and that will leave you all upset and angry, unless you can personally verify the info yourself in person, and only if it's from the horses mouth. Dont know why ya bother coming on these forums bud. ;)
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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p4pking
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Jimmy G-Force
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littlebif
If Hatton comes back and looks good and gets the win against a decent opponent i wanna see him take a few shots to see if he has any punch resistance left! If he has i can see him taking on Khan and i would give him a good chance of beating him.Khan is very fast on his feet and with his hands but fighters can get close to him and hit him he isnt hard to hit.Khan isnt a southpaw with will help Hatton alot cause he is crap against them.
In the build up to the Pac fight he says he over trained but he also says he was getting beat up by sparing partners which is very worry and a big sign that he is past his best imo.He strugles with southpaws but by the end of his training he should of been used to them.
Over-trained is an understatement. He was clinically diagnosed with exhaustion 3 weeks before the fight. A 15 mile run in the morning in the hills, 12 rounds of sparring in the afternoon, and 10 miles on the treadmill at night. Also, Lee, Matthew and Ray told me that Floyd Snr looked like he was trying to break Rick.
I remember an incident with the medicine ball where Floyd Snr was throwing it very hard into the pit of Rick's stomach. Apparently Rick was in agony, and Lee pulled Rick out of that exercise, and a few sparring sessions when he was getting battered. This pissed off Floyd Snr and their friendship was severely strained through it. Rick told me that before the fight, he knew he only had 4 rounds in him so he tried to jump on Manny. The rest is history. Like I said before, GBP tried to pull the fight with 3 weeks to go, thats fact.
Ummm, perhaps Hatton's camp were indeed trying to get him killed(and regardless of whether that was the case), your WAY off here bud. A 15 mile run in the morning, 12 rounds of sparring, than another 10 miles at night? Are you just pulling that out of your arse, and do you have ANY idea how ridiculous it would be? No fighter runs 15 miles in one stint at any point in their training, let alone someone who is five foot six with Hatton's build. I wouldn't doubt he over trained, but what you just said amounts to complete lunacy, it wouldn't even be plausible for any fighter in their right mind to do that on any given day.
This obviously wasnt everyday but it's true. Lee Beard pulled Rick out of sparring after 6 rounds and 7 rounds respectively after he was getting owned. I'm sure it was Tim Coleman. What Ricky went through in that camp bordered lunacy. Like I said in another post, it was Shane's doctor that diagnosed him with exhaustion 3 weeks prior. Ricky was then given 5 days rest. He came back and looked much better in sparring, but by that time I guess the damage was already done.
And where are you getting no fighter jogs 15 mile in a training session ?? Rick ran more than that in his roadwork for the Tszyu fight, and that was shown on t.v.
Edit - Just checked, it was 10-12 miles in the morning, my error.
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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Jimmy G-Force
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Jimmy G-Force
And you know better do you ?
I give you some inside information and you throw it back in my face. It is a fact, and you dont know either way, so until you do, button it. :-X
In my opinion Rick would have been beaten in his prime by that Manny. It just would have been a more competative fight.
Little bit tetchy aren't we. I never said I know better, but you don't get to become the oracle of all opinions on Hatton just because you know him.
You may say something as a fact, but if someone who knew Floyd Mayweather came in here & said it was a fact that someone in Manny's team sent those emails asking about if he failed a drugs test, would you automatically believe him or her?
I may agree with your last point about it being a more competitive fight, but it doesn't change the fact that what you say remains can just come off as Team Hatton spin to some of us.
If you've seen it with your own eyes, then fair enough, why would you give a fuck what people on some internet site say about it :confused:
I've just listened to your type before Jez, and my patience is thin after 10 years of it. It was the same crap after the Witter missing gates post, it was meant to be a bit of fun, that not many people knew about, but I found your 'hating' post after it pathetic, hence the reason I didnt reply.
It someone came on here, whom I respected and valued their opinion, and they told me something about another fighter then I would believe it. If you choose not to, without any evidence to the contrary, then so be it. There are Hatton fans on here that will be appreciative of any inside information they can get. And I'm only to happy give it, good or bad.
Next time you're talking to Ricky ask him why, if he's so unconcerned about money -- he doesn't even know how much he's worth! -- he doesn't just pay Billy Graham the money he owes him for the Mayweather fight.
I mean if there's one thing we know about the Hattons it's that yhey're salt-of-the-earth people, unlike all the other scumbags in boxing like Frank Warren. I mean because of what Ricky's said publicly I imagine that if I shook hands on something with him then his word would be his bond, I'd be absolutely guaranteed that because Ricky is such a paragon of morality and honesty. And that would be me as just somebody doing business with Ricky, not somebody like Billy who was his friend and trainer for over a decade.
I'm sure that the last thing that would happen if I had a handshake deal with the Ricky is that he'd take me to court to try and weasel out of it. That's the kind of thing you'd expect from Frank Warren, not the great man himself. Now it can't be down to money because we both know that Ricky couldn't care less about money and would happily pay any amount he morally owed and not end up in court looking like a scumbag trying to dodge paying somebody money. Because the Hattons aren't like that. So why is Ricky doing it to Billy? Can you ask him please?
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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Jimmy G-Force
I've just read the Freddie Roach has been quoted as saying that " Maidana is not well known enough in the UK to make the fight."
It looks like we are back to Khan vacating, and looking to beat Hatton to JMM. Khan stated he wanted the big names for his American debut, and Maidana wasnt one of them. He lists JMM, Juan Diaz and Paulie as possible suiters. Hmmmmmmnnnnn.
aside from considering it as friendly advise, amir wanted ricky to retire and chill out so that he can have the jmm fight
imagine amir beating barrera then jmm? wow!
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I don't. I know for a fact Hatton has one great ko by left in him. And I want to see it
you want to see ricky being ko'd again?
Hell yeah. Who doesn't? Nobody gets knocked out in cooler fashion that Hatton
Hah! Ain't that the truth lol - Con at this stage starches Hatton, sorry to say.
But yeah, a double K.O in a match between these two would probably be the most fan-friendly, entertaining conclusion.
So Mayweather Sr trained Hatton too hard? It didn't seem to do Lil Floyd, Oscar, Chad Dawson, Guzman any harm in the past when they were trained by Sr.
So Hatton couldn't handle it? Maybe Beard shoulda kept his nose out of things and let a world class trainer (like him or not) do his job
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As for Amir Khan...well I couldn't give a flying fuck about his opinion. Mr. 2% body fat and all other kinds of bizarre random bullshit. The twit. :rolleyes:
;D My 2nd favourite Khan "L.O.L" moment!
Except it was "1.5%" bodyfat - I'd love to see him come in to a fight with 1.5% bodyfat when some bodybuilders occasionally collapse at 3% body fat. :rolleyes:
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
i like khan but he likes to tlk reckless he did the same thing with salita, ricky should come back and fight jmm i think he can pull it off
Re: amir khan told ricky hatton to "retire and chill out"
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Jimmy G-Force
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p4pking
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Jimmy G-Force
Over-trained is an understatement. He was clinically diagnosed with exhaustion 3 weeks before the fight. A 15 mile run in the morning in the hills, 12 rounds of sparring in the afternoon, and 10 miles on the treadmill at night. Also, Lee, Matthew and Ray told me that Floyd Snr looked like he was trying to break Rick.
I remember an incident with the medicine ball where Floyd Snr was throwing it very hard into the pit of Rick's stomach. Apparently Rick was in agony, and Lee pulled Rick out of that exercise, and a few sparring sessions when he was getting battered. This pissed off Floyd Snr and their friendship was severely strained through it. Rick told me that before the fight, he knew he only had 4 rounds in him so he tried to jump on Manny. The rest is history. Like I said before, GBP tried to pull the fight with 3 weeks to go, thats fact.
Ummm, perhaps Hatton's camp were indeed trying to get him killed(and regardless of whether that was the case), your WAY off here bud. A 15 mile run in the morning, 12 rounds of sparring, than another 10 miles at night? Are you just pulling that out of your arse, and do you have ANY idea how ridiculous it would be? No fighter runs 15 miles in one stint at any point in their training, let alone someone who is five foot six with Hatton's build. I wouldn't doubt he over trained, but what you just said amounts to complete lunacy, it wouldn't even be plausible for any fighter in their right mind to do that on any given day.
This obviously wasnt everyday but it's true. Lee Beard pulled Rick out of sparring after 6 rounds and 7 rounds respectively after he was getting owned. I'm sure it was Tim Coleman. What Ricky went through in that camp bordered lunacy. Like I said in another post, it was Shane's doctor that diagnosed him with exhaustion 3 weeks prior. Ricky was then given 5 days rest. He came back and looked much better in sparring, but by that time I guess the damage was already done.
And where are you getting no fighter jogs 15 mile in a training session ?? Rick ran more than that in his roadwork for the Tszyu fight, and that was shown on t.v.
Edit - Just checked, it was 10-12 miles in the morning, my error.
Where am I getting it from?.15 miles??? That's well over a half marathon, to run that every day would be detrimental to ANYTHING besides just that, running long distance. No athletes besides runnners themselves would get anywhere near that with any regularity, anyone could tell you that.
