Can you name fighters who seemed to have lost it after winning a tough fight?

okay well here's one to think about, Jesus Chavez was never the same again after killing Leavander Johnson, I think it obviously affected him a lot because he was never the same fighter again.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Agreed...not sure about elsewhere but in many parts of the States its 20 seconds.Ref had some flubs and behind the head shots went both ways at times.

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Is think its 20 secs if the fighter went out of the ring ala Rahman. but is it also 20 secs if you went just outside the rope but still in the ring?

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A boxer shall receive a twenty (20) second count if the boxer is knocked out of the ring and onto the floor. The boxer is to be unassisted by spectators or his/her seconds. If assisted by anyone, the boxer may lose points or be disqualified with such a decision being within the sole discretion of the referee.

Boxing Rules | Ringside by Gus


I remember a member of the media assisting Nigel Benn but not much i suppose.

Gabriel Ruelas after fighting Jimmy Garcia. Garcia's death haunted him for the rest of his career. He was never the same mentally after that fight.

First names that come to mind are Oliver McCall (after beating Lennox) and Hasim Rahman (after beating Lennox).

Probably a case of neither guy being that great to begin with, but after they found that sweet spot on Lewis' jaw, never truly capitalized on the momentum. McCall beat 87-year-old Larry Holmes in his one successful title defense, then lost to Frank Bruno. Rahman got waxed y Lewis in the rematch, then had the "other head on my head" fight with Evander, and kind of faded from view until he fought James Toney.

Courtney Burton after beating Angel Manfredy. He went 2-5 after that fight, getting knocked out five times. (Manfredy, for that matter, only fought twice after Burton.)

Joe Mesi after "beating" Jirov.

Frazier lost some of his mojo after the first fight with Ali. He did fight on well after, including the brutal third fight however.

Zab Judah after knocking out Spinks in the rematch.

He never has looked that good again, at least not against good competition.

Hatton was never the same after he beat Tszyu, that was his moment and it took it all from him in doing it. Look at his face after that fight, it's a mess.

Ali should never have fought again after the Thriller in Manilla.

[Ali should never have fought again after the Thriller in Manilla.[/quote]

Neither of them should have.

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Originally Posted by boxer dude

okay well here's one to think about, Jesus Chavez was never the same again after killing Leavander Johnson, I think it obviously affected him a lot because he was never the same fighter again.

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Yes. It appears that most fighter who have won a fight that ended tragically were never the same. Few exceptions to that.

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Originally Posted by boxer dude

okay well here's one to think about, Jesus Chavez was never the same again after killing Leavander Johnson, I think it obviously affected him a lot because he was never the same fighter again.

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Yes. It appears that most fighter who have won a fight that ended tragically were never the same. Few exceptions to that.

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David Gonzalez was an exception to this.

I agree with Hatton after Tszyu, but I think he took another big dip after Collazo as well. I think it shook him up that he went up in weight, and a guy that wasn't really considered a puncher was putting the hurt on him. Tszyu probably more physically, but I think a lot of doubts crept in after Collazo.

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Originally Posted by Myk_Myk

I agree with Hatton after Tszyu, but I think he took another big dip after Collazo as well. I think it shook him up that he went up in weight, and a guy that wasn't really considered a puncher was putting the hurt on him. Tszyu probably more physically, but I think a lot of doubts crept in after Collazo.

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I agree. Collazo was the first one who really rocked Ricky. He had him on Queer Street (:gay5:) in that last round. The aura of invincibility had been broken. IMO.

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

Taylor after Hopkins :(

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Was Taylor actually that good anyway ?

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

Taylor after Hopkins :(

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Was Taylor actually that good anyway ?

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Good question now that you raise it. I really wonder if he was. :confused: