Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
Mosley definitely has a chance.. he's gonna try make a war out of it
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
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Lyle
Shane Mosley WILL BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Shane's smart, he's strong, he has very quick hands, he's not killing himself to make weight, and Floyd can't hurt him.
I think Floyd has been apprehensive about fighting a couple guys at 147 and rightfully so in some cases: Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Shane Mosley, and Pacquiao. Now of course the Floyd fans will say Floyd has little left to prove and those fights didn't make sense etc etc but Floyd's record speaks for itself he never once said "Give me Cotto and I'll beat him" or "Give me Williams and I'll beat him" he simply waited until they lost and said "See, they weren't worthy of a shot vs me" and it doesn't make sense for Floyd not to fight when the money is to his liking. If he was truly "Money Mayweather" he would have fought at least 3 of those guys because you cannot tell me that ANY of those fights wouldn't have made HUGE money at the gate and on PPV.
Stylistically Floyd has very little to offer Shane, the guys who have beaten Shane either use their height and reach (Forrest & Wright) or are durable enough to trade with Shane and get the better of him (Miguel Cotto and to a lesser extent De la Hoya in the rematch was able to hang with him). Floyd has great defense but he isn't as effective until he gets a fighter to tire themself out, vs Judah and Hatton he allowed them to do work early and chase him around the ring while he pot shotted them for at least half the fight knowing especially that Zab would have 0 to offer him later in the fight and that's when Floyd turned it on....Shane doesn't have much in the defense department but he's strong and he's got fast DANGEROUS hands and he's going to beat Floyd.
For once I agree with you.
Mosley can do it, and he KNOWS he can do it.
If Mosley hurts Mayweather then its over. He'll finish him.
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
Those saying that if floyd wins the excuse will be because shane is too old...its not an excuse its a fact..shane is 38yrs old..that's old for any sport esp in boxing.
but I've been waiting for this for sometime now. I remember saying on this forum four years ago shane has the tools to do it, and I was bashed heavily because of shane's performances against vargas. Now it seems as though more guys are believing shane can do it. I don't know if its because they floyd want to lose or if they actually believe the old shane can do it.
But hindsight shane probably wasnt ready not because he lacked physically but because he didn't have the x factor...NAZ..shane will stick a very stiff jab in floyd's face early much like he did in the first oscar fight.
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
Just for posterity's sake when this thread is bumped, Floyd by wide UD something around 117-111/118-110.
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
Mosley will murder Floyd....Bank on it. :cool:
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
Mosley ain't gonna do shit. Maybe 10 years ago when he was younger, faster, and stronger, then yeah. Not to mentioned his special vitamins that he got from Victor Conte.
I'll be shocked if Mosley wins more than 3 rounds.
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
Although I'd love to see a Mosley win it won't happen! Mosley is a great fighter & a fight between these two at 135 would have been magnifacent, but at this stage Floyd wins this easy!!!
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
Shane Mosley WILL BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Shane's smart, he's strong, he has very quick hands, he's not killing himself to make weight, and Floyd can't hurt him.
I think Floyd has been apprehensive about fighting a couple guys at 147 and rightfully so in some cases: Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Shane Mosley, and Pacquiao. Now of course the Floyd fans will say Floyd has little left to prove and those fights didn't make sense etc etc but Floyd's record speaks for itself he never once said "Give me Cotto and I'll beat him" or "Give me Williams and I'll beat him" he simply waited until they lost and said "See, they weren't worthy of a shot vs me" and it doesn't make sense for Floyd not to fight when the money is to his liking. If he was truly "Money Mayweather" he would have fought at least 3 of those guys because you cannot tell me that ANY of those fights wouldn't have made HUGE money at the gate and on PPV.
Stylistically Floyd has very little to offer Shane, the guys who have beaten Shane either use their height and reach (Forrest & Wright) or are durable enough to trade with Shane and get the better of him (Miguel Cotto and to a lesser extent De la Hoya in the rematch was able to hang with him). Floyd has great defense but he isn't as effective until he gets a fighter to tire themself out, vs Judah and Hatton he allowed them to do work early and chase him around the ring while he pot shotted them for at least half the fight knowing especially that Zab would have 0 to offer him later in the fight and that's when Floyd turned it on....Shane doesn't have much in the defense department but he's strong and he's got fast DANGEROUS hands and he's going to beat Floyd.
For once I agree with you.
Mosley can do it, and he KNOWS he can do it.
If Mosley hurts Mayweather then its over. He'll finish him.
That is very true early on, but Floyd will probably evade and counter for the first half of the fight until Mosley looses some steam.
I hope you are right and Im wrong I really do.
I would be upset if Floyd wore him down and finished him that would just about kill me.
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Lyle
rjjtszyu, sure I'll accept that bet.
All I can say is STYLES MAKE FIGHTS and if Floyd had trouble with De la Hoya and he couldn't stop Zab Judah or Marquez then he's not going to hurt Shane. Shane has fast hands, he's strong, and he's got a great chin. I just don't thin Floyd has the style to bother Shane, he's not tall, he doesn't use a conventional 1-2, his defense and counterpunching are great but that alone won't get him a win over Shane.
I see where you're coming from, but IMO Shane's only chance is if what Floyds detractors say are true and that he cant handle a 'proper sized strong welter', and crumbles under sheer strength. If he can then thats one less thing people can say baout him.
Alot of people quote stuff like speed and power as if they can be quantified like in a video game, Shane still has some power but only when hi winds up noadays, and wont land those shots often enough to hurt Floyd IMO.
Another 'attribute' where a lot of people gigve credit for in Shane is his Stamina. He's shown heart and guts to dig deep late in rounds recently against Mayorga and Cotto. While he gave a lot of heat in those rounds he was winging away really unlike when Floyd is forced to the later rounds still has is balance and composure intact.
I'm goin for Floyd comfortably, maybe not causing too much damage cos lets face it even when he has a man beat like Marquez or Baldomir he doesn't go for the kill, which is less likely against a pumcher.
Couldnt agree with you more. But by God I hope we are wrong.
Shanes speed isnt just raw hand speed he hits on the move timing other guys spaces and thats a forward movement, Floyds reactions and angles will balance that out at this stage.
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
Floyd WILL DOMINATE Shane in fact it won't even be competitive. Mayweather has a fabulous jab which Shane will not be able to avoid (watch Mosley Forrest or Mosley Wright). Floyd is way too defensively sound to get hit by a guy who throws LOOPING punches. Shane has poor defense where his main strategy is to shove opponents (watch the Margarito fight). Shane has NO head movement. Floyd is faster than Shane. Shane is 39 years old. Anyone who's picking Shane is pretty much saying well he hits HARD so hell knock Maywetaher out you have to HIT MAYWEATHER to knock him out. I'll be bold enough to say it'll be as ONE SIDED as the Marquez fight.
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
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generalbulldog
Mosley ain't gonna do shit. Maybe 10 years ago when he was younger, faster, and stronger, then yeah. Not to mentioned his special vitamins that he got from Victor Conte.
I'll be shocked if Mosley wins more than 3 rounds.
Oscar won 4 rounds.
So prepare to be shocked.
Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd
Mosley will lose because.
He's old: fits the criteria of "pretty boy's hit list." That's what my nigga pbf like! Let's roll!
He's right handed so he will fall for the shoulder roll.
He might be too preoccupied thinking pac ahead of pbf. The excitement of facing pac in the future will overtake the boredom of fighting may at the present.
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Mosley will lose because.
He's old: fits the criteria of "pretty boy's hit list." That's what my nigga pbf like! Let's roll!
He's right handed so he will fall for the shoulder roll.
He might be too preoccupied thinking pac ahead of pbf. The excitement of facing pac in the future will overtake the boredom of fighting may at the present.
That's inaccurate as Shane has specifically been calling out PBF before pac solidified himself as a real WW...
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Floyd WILL DOMINATE Shane in fact it won't even be competitive. Mayweather has a fabulous jab which Shane will not be able to avoid (watch Mosley Forrest or Mosley Wright). Floyd is way too defensively sound to get hit by a guy who throws LOOPING punches. Shane has poor defense where his main strategy is to shove opponents (watch the Margarito fight). Shane has NO head movement. Floyd is faster than Shane. Shane is 39 years old. Anyone who's picking Shane is pretty much saying well he hits HARD so hell knock Maywetaher out you have to HIT MAYWEATHER to knock him out. I'll be bold enough to say it'll be as ONE SIDED as the Marquez fight.
I definitely see your point T. Mosley needs to keep his shots straight. I hate the looping right hand he puts so much faith in... It seldom works these days... Even when he 'hides' it behind a jab.
