Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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ElTerribleMorales
the commission already has it's own rules and penalties for not making weight for a fight, so some little diva and his shaky trainer shouldn't be trying to alter those regulations for their benefit
Yeah, rules for not making the weight -- I remember how Floyd screw this rule when he fought bloated Marquez at 147 and he still came in over weight. Thats the basis why Pacman camp asked for a huge fine on exceeding the 147 welter limit. Again, that was their basis. Floyd did it before and he will do it again.
And whos trying to alter the rules on drug testing procedures? What their basis for asking an Olympic drug test procedure for this fight? Was their a basis at all?
yea he broke the rule, and had to pay the fee given to him by the NSAC, not by Marquez, so who the fuck is Manny to say he should get $10 mil for every pound over the limit, same as who the fuck is Manny to demand catchweights for not only championship fights, but title defenses as well
Your statements are incoherent and confusing. The catch weight set of the Marquez-Mayweather fight was made by themselves, not by NSAC. They agreed on it from the beginning and signed the contract stating that it would be 145lbs. Its clear that catch weights can be asked by anyone to anyone, not just Manny.
Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight -- he's a legit welter anyway that should be a non-issue and Manny is naturally smaller than him.
Catchweights that were set by Manny was agreed by the other fighter. Look, it was not a deal that manny made by himself. Its a two way deal.
He fought Dela Hoya at 147 limit, and people were saying dela hoya will crush him like a cheap jar. He fought Hatton at his unbeatable weight 140 and people were saying Hatton will bulldoze Manny. Was it Manny's fault to prove them wrong?
Who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say that Manny is on PED?
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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Dench
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ElTerribleMorales
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Dench
Yeah, rules for not making the weight -- I remember how Floyd screw this rule when he fought bloated Marquez at 147 and he still came in over weight. Thats the basis why Pacman camp asked for a huge fine on exceeding the 147 welter limit. Again, that was their basis. Floyd did it before and he will do it again.
And whos trying to alter the rules on drug testing procedures? What their basis for asking an Olympic drug test procedure for this fight? Was their a basis at all?
yea he broke the rule, and had to pay the fee given to him by the NSAC, not by Marquez, so who the fuck is Manny to say he should get $10 mil for every pound over the limit, same as who the fuck is Manny to demand catchweights for not only championship fights, but title defenses as well
Your statements are incoherent and confusing. The catch weight set of the Marquez-Mayweather fight was made by themselves, not by NSAC. They agreed on it from the beginning and signed the contract stating that it would be 145lbs. Its clear that catch weights can be asked by anyone to anyone, not just Manny.
Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight -- he's a legit welter anyway that should be a non-issue and Manny is naturally smaller than him.
Catchweights that were set by Manny was agreed by the other fighter. Look, it was not a deal that manny made by himself. Its a two way deal.
He fought Dela Hoya at 147 limit, and people were saying dela hoya will crush him like a cheap jar. He fought Hatton at his unbeatable weight 140 and people were saying Hatton will bulldoze Manny. Was it Manny's fault to prove them wrong?
Who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say that Manny is on PED?
Who the fuck is Manny to say that someone is going to come in overweight? Well, he put a clause in enforcing making weight and his opponents signed off on it. You ask who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say Manny is on PEDs? Well, they put in a clause asking for Olympic style testing and Mosley signed off on it, Manny didn't.
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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Originally Posted by
Dench
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ElTerribleMorales
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Dench
Yeah, rules for not making the weight -- I remember how Floyd screw this rule when he fought bloated Marquez at 147 and he still came in over weight. Thats the basis why Pacman camp asked for a huge fine on exceeding the 147 welter limit. Again, that was their basis. Floyd did it before and he will do it again.
And whos trying to alter the rules on drug testing procedures? What their basis for asking an Olympic drug test procedure for this fight? Was their a basis at all?
yea he broke the rule, and had to pay the fee given to him by the NSAC, not by Marquez, so who the fuck is Manny to say he should get $10 mil for every pound over the limit, same as who the fuck is Manny to demand catchweights for not only championship fights, but title defenses as well
Your statements are incoherent and confusing. The catch weight set of the Marquez-Mayweather fight was made by themselves, not by NSAC. They agreed on it from the beginning and signed the contract stating that it would be 145lbs. Its clear that catch weights can be asked by anyone to anyone, not just Manny.
Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight -- he's a legit welter anyway that should be a non-issue and Manny is naturally smaller than him.
Catchweights that were set by Manny was agreed by the other fighter. Look, it was not a deal that manny made by himself. Its a two way deal.
He fought Dela Hoya at 147 limit, and people were saying dela hoya will crush him like a cheap jar. He fought Hatton at his unbeatable weight 140 and people were saying Hatton will bulldoze Manny. Was it Manny's fault to prove them wrong?
Who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say that Manny is on PED?
so now Manny is way smaller than Floyd? yet he was willing to go up to 154 and fight Yuri Foreman if the money was right :confused:, nobody knew how badly faded Oscar was by the time he took on Pacquiao, and if anyone actually tries to consider that a legit win or a meaningful one, they seriously need to get their head checked, Hatton was far from unbeatable at 140 or any other weight, Lazcano gave him the fight of his life at what weight? oh yea 140
keep coming up with cheap excuses as to why Pacquiao pussied out of the biggest fight of his career, i don't give a shit what anyone says, if you're willing to walk away from a $40 mil pay day just because some arrogant shit says you're on PED's and is asking you to take a drug test to prove him wrong, then somethings up, the rational thing would be to take the test, prove him wrong, kick his ass and cash your check, not make bullshit excuses ("i'm scared of needles and all of my tattoos are just painted on") or have a little public hissy fit and go to court, especially when you're given the chance to kick the guys ass
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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ElTerribleMorales
Hatton was far from unbeatable at 140 or any other weight, Lazcano gave him the fight of his life at what weight? oh yea 140
That might be true. but its is a well known fact the Hatton has zero loss at 140. or to word it differently Hatton was undefeated at 140 prior to facing Pacquiao.
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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Who the fuck is Manny to say that someone is going to come in overweight?
Manny's team just watch how Mayweather disrespected the catch weight when he fought Marquez. He didnt even bother paying 600,000 USD for that, and maybe 10Million will make him respect 147 limit.
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Well, he put a clause in enforcing making weight and his opponents signed off on it.
Same goes with Marquez Mayweather fight -- both of them signed on that contracted weight, but in the end, who honored it?
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match
You ask who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say Manny is on PEDs? Well, they put in a clause asking for Olympic style testing and Mosley signed off on it, Manny didn't.
And whats the connection?
Of course Mosley would love to prove he's clean because he admitted before that he was dirty -- now that's a strong case of doping. Only way to clean up his name is to get tested. And yes, he will get it this time. Im happy for him. He will get a chance to prove he is clean, at the same time he will have a chance to kick Mayweather's butt.:D
Manny never failed every single drug test. So there's no point on having those test simply because Floyd and his honchos are "suspecting" he's immortal, bullet proof.
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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Who the fuck is Manny to say that someone is going to come in overweight?
Manny's team just watch how Mayweather disrespected the catch weight when he fought Marquez. He didnt even bother paying 600,000 USD for that, and maybe 10Million will make him respect 147 limit.
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match
Well, he put a clause in enforcing making weight and his opponents signed off on it.
Same goes with Marquez Mayweather fight -- both of them signed on that contracted weight, but in the end, who honored it?
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match
You ask who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say Manny is on PEDs? Well, they put in a clause asking for Olympic style testing and Mosley signed off on it, Manny didn't.
And whats the connection?
Of course Mosley would love to prove he's clean because he admitted before that he was dirty -- now that's a strong case of doping. Only way to clean up his name is to get tested. And yes, he will get it this time. Im happy for him. He will get a chance to prove he is clean, at the same time he will have a chance to kick Mayweather's butt.:D
Manny never failed every single drug test. So there's no point on having those test simply because Floyd and his honchos are "suspecting" he's immortal, bullet proof.
ummm yea Shane Mosley's never failed a single drug test either.....
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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ElTerribleMorales
so now Manny is way smaller than Floyd? yet he was willing to go up to 154 and fight Yuri Foreman if the money was right :confused:,
Its right, just what you said, Manny was willing to go up on 154. The word is willing. He didnt pursue it, it didnt happen. It not reality, its simply a thought -- he even decline later on and admit Foreman was too big for him.
Marquez is a natural Light weight, he fought Mayweather in welterweight with a limit of 144. It happened, it was reality.
We're talking about reality here, not assumptions and imaginations.
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ElTerribleMorales
nobody knew how badly faded Oscar was by the time he took on Pacquiao,
There was one person -- Roach but interestingly, Dela Hoya disagrees. Dela Hoya along with several million people believes he can destroy pacman. Some believes he may even kill pacman.
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ElTerribleMorales
and if anyone actually tries to consider that a legit win or a meaningful one, they seriously need to get their head checked,
Then WBC, WBO and all the boxing organization, the boxing media, should have their heads checked first before we do.
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ElTerribleMorales
Hatton was far from unbeatable at 140 or any other weight, Lazcano gave him the fight of his life at what weight? oh yea 140
Was he been beaten in 140 before the pacman fight? You tell me.
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ElTerribleMorales
keep coming up with cheap excuses as to why Pacquiao pussied out of the biggest fight of his career, i don't give a shit what anyone says, if you're willing to walk away from a $40 mil pay day just because some arrogant shit says you're on PED's and is asking you to take a drug test to prove him wrong, then somethings up, the rational thing would be to take the test, prove him wrong, kick his ass and cash your check, not make bullshit excuses ("i'm scared of needles and all of my tattoos are just painted on") or have a little public hissy fit and go to court, especially when you're given the chance to kick the guys ass
Yes, you are right. Thanks for admitting that you dont give a shit with what anyone has to say, that makes me think who among us would seriously need expert mental advise.
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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ElTerribleMorales
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match
Who the fuck is Manny to say that someone is going to come in overweight?
Manny's team just watch how Mayweather disrespected the catch weight when he fought Marquez. He didnt even bother paying 600,000 USD for that, and maybe 10Million will make him respect 147 limit.
Same goes with Marquez Mayweather fight -- both of them signed on that contracted weight, but in the end, who honored it?
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match
You ask who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say Manny is on PEDs? Well, they put in a clause asking for Olympic style testing and Mosley signed off on it, Manny didn't.
And whats the connection?
Of course Mosley would love to prove he's clean because he admitted before that he was dirty -- now that's a strong case of doping. Only way to clean up his name is to get tested. And yes, he will get it this time. Im happy for him. He will get a chance to prove he is clean, at the same time he will have a chance to kick Mayweather's butt.:D
Manny never failed every single drug test. So there's no point on having those test simply because Floyd and his honchos are "suspecting" he's immortal, bullet proof.
ummm yea Shane Mosley's never failed a single drug test either.....
Then how do they know he's on PED? They caught him drinking PED in the parking lot? Nice one man, keep it coming
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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Dench
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ElTerribleMorales
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Dench
Manny's team just watch how Mayweather disrespected the catch weight when he fought Marquez. He didnt even bother paying 600,000 USD for that, and maybe 10Million will make him respect 147 limit.
Same goes with Marquez Mayweather fight -- both of them signed on that contracted weight, but in the end, who honored it?
And whats the connection?
Of course Mosley would love to prove he's clean because he admitted before that he was dirty -- now that's a strong case of doping. Only way to clean up his name is to get tested. And yes, he will get it this time. Im happy for him. He will get a chance to prove he is clean, at the same time he will have a chance to kick Mayweather's butt.:D
Manny never failed every single drug test. So there's no point on having those test simply because Floyd and his honchos are "suspecting" he's immortal, bullet proof.
ummm yea Shane Mosley's never failed a single drug test either.....
Then how do they know he's on PED? They caught him drinking PED in the parking lot? Nice one man, keep it coming
hahaha you're the biggest moron dude, Mosley only got found out because he was involved in the BALCO scandal, and because he flat out admitted it, although he states that he unknowingly took them, Mosley never failed a drug test genius but again, nice try
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
This is how primadonas get beat....Floyd better worry about that "old man" Shane Mosley.Period
Come to think of it....can you imagine a Mosley/Pac match?I mean stylistically speaking :fight: Nice
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
Why is name calling and bashing a part of arguments here at saddo? Is it because it shields the hollowness of some arguments, or is it more the inability to stay the course of civility to express one's ideas?
These gentlemen are carrying on honourably with their sides of the argument, I have found it very enlightening so far, or at least it was...
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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ElTerribleMorales
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Dench
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ElTerribleMorales
ummm yea Shane Mosley's never failed a single drug test either.....
Then how do they know he's on PED? They caught him drinking PED in the parking lot? Nice one man, keep it coming
hahaha you're the biggest moron dude, Mosley only got found out because he was involved in the BALCO scandal, and because he flat out admitted it, although he states that he unknowingly took them, Mosley never failed a drug test genius but again, nice try
Mosley was involved with Balco, that is true. The best Mosley could have done at the time is come clean and admit it. He would have get found out eventually.
Pacman has never tested positive on any illegal substance. That is true.
But can you connect Pacman to any drug scandal or any shaddy drug company? Until then Pacman is clean until proven guilty.
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Pacman has never tested positive on any illegal substance. That is true.
But can you connect Pacman to any drug scandal or any shaddy drug company? Until then Pacman is clean until proven guilty.
Are you crazy? that's not possible. How can people hate him if they think that way?
Not accepting Floyd's demands made him guilty.
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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Dench
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ElTerribleMorales
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Dench
Yeah, rules for not making the weight -- I remember how Floyd screw this rule when he fought bloated Marquez at 147 and he still came in over weight. Thats the basis why Pacman camp asked for a huge fine on exceeding the 147 welter limit. Again, that was their basis. Floyd did it before and he will do it again.
And whos trying to alter the rules on drug testing procedures? What their basis for asking an Olympic drug test procedure for this fight? Was their a basis at all?
yea he broke the rule, and had to pay the fee given to him by the NSAC, not by Marquez, so who the fuck is Manny to say he should get $10 mil for every pound over the limit, same as who the fuck is Manny to demand catchweights for not only championship fights, but title defenses as well
Your statements are incoherent and confusing. The catch weight set of the Marquez-Mayweather fight was made by themselves, not by NSAC. They agreed on it from the beginning and signed the contract stating that it would be 145lbs. Its clear that catch weights can be asked by anyone to anyone, not just Manny.
Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight -- he's a legit welter anyway that should be a non-issue and Manny is naturally smaller than him.
Catchweights that were set by Manny was agreed by the other fighter. Look, it was not a deal that manny made by himself. Its a two way deal.
He fought Dela Hoya at 147 limit, and people were saying dela hoya will crush him like a cheap jar. He fought Hatton at his unbeatable weight 140 and people were saying Hatton will bulldoze Manny. Was it Manny's fault to prove them wrong?
Who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say that Manny is on PED?
If the weight penalty Pacquiao asked for & Mayweather agreed to was about fear of Mayweather "cheating" & coming in overweight, why didn't Pacquiao demand the same 10 million dollar penalty for Clottey, a man who has weighed-in over the 147 lb. limit multiple times?
The truth is the "weight penalty" was as much of a muscle flex as Mayweather's demand for testing. The difference is Mayweather called Pacquiao's bluff & rather than show his hand Pacquiao cried foul.
Both men had the right to make a demand & they both did. Mayweather agreed to Pacquiao's but Pacquiao didn't agree to Mayweather. No matter the reason, he simply didn't agree.
Hell, as humble & as confident a fighter Pacquiao is I would've thought he'd jump at the chance to prove his legitimate greatness amidst rumors of cheating. I know I would.
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
At this point I wouldn't bother wasting the time to watch PAC-Mayweather except on youtube afterwards. I am truly sick of this whole bitchfest.
