F#%k the ring magazine

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

I think Jim Bagg is hilarious.

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Who the hell is that? :confused:

Well i think lampley is hilarious as well.
BANG!
Anyways this is the blood test reason why pac don't want no bullshit transfusion demands from pbf! Complete with translated caption in english.
Because of this his punches was weakened. Pac obviously don't want the same mistake on EM-PAC 1 to be repeated with his fight against PBF!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4
BANG! :cool:

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

I've got that issue and the only two writers who full on take Manny's side are Ivan Goldman and Jim Bagg. Goldman is a decent journalist, but Jim Bagg is quite possibly the worst writer to work for any publication that you have to buy EVER. I reckon I could go out pick up a porn mag and find more insightful and witty prose. In fact I suspect those 'flyers' in the phoneboxes are penned by greater writers than Bagg. He's a tool.

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To be fair. I read playboy for the articles, which I find intellectually stimulating at times.

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Originally Posted by mad_takamura

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by mad_takamura

THAT'S CALLED SUBJECTIVE JOURNALISM WHICH SHOULD BE PRACTICED BTW.
For example, i won't complain that you're not even blaming both for all of this. Pac has reasons. In the em-pac1 didn't you know that they took his blood twice? The first blood transfusion suddenly went missing from the doctor's records so a week before the fight they took blood again from him the second time. Thus his reason why he felt weak during the fight and didn't seem to hurt EM at all! Add the fact the headbutt too. There is a video of that as a proof, right after the fight way back in 2005.
Also if both had blood taken from them who do you think would benefit more? It's pbf since he weighs as a middleweight before fights. Pac's frame is welterweight at best.
See? That's what happens when you believe a crackhead's delusions. And then you complain when a journalist doesn't favor your opinions. At least basing it on pac's arguments he has basis to back up his claims. That's the answer to your questions why pac backed off. Give me a concrete evidence on pbf sr.'s a-side meth claims and i'll wear a hello kitty avatar.:cool:

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What blood transfusion are you reffering to? They don't do a blood transfusion for a blood test. They take a minute amount of blood which the body recovers in less than an hour.

The main excuses they made for Pacquiao's lose to Erik were
1. He wasn't allowed to wear Reyes.
2. He had the wrong socks on.

I also haven't placed the blame solely on Pacquiao, I just said they are making every out to look like Mayweather is ducking Manny when in fact both sides are to blame. I think Pacquiao should be allowed to ask for 10 million dollars for every pound above 147, it was discraceful for Mayweather to come in at 146 against Marquez. That really pissed me off. But it also really pisses me off about the pleuthora of lame excuses Manny's camp has made about not wanting to take blood which are totally rediculous. That being said I think Mayweather's camp made a big deal out of the steroids just to get into Manny's head, and in that sense its their fault for bringing something up I don't feel has any credence, to me Manny is a clean fighter, but he is just letting his ego get the better of him. I think they both want to fight, but they also want something that will allow them to have a mental edge over eachother. But the fact is neither of them will have a complete resume without the other simply because how can you not face far and away the best other guy in the sport when they are in your weight division, you two are the most popular fighters and the fight is being asked for by virtually every sports fan.

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If you're really blaming both sides, why is it in your first post that you seem to be siding more with pbf?
You should have made clear that you blame both sides at the onset of this thread. ;)
Anyways i already gave you the reason why pac doesn't want to have blood taken from this fight, and that first fight with EM was one.
Two even if both guys (pbf and pac) have their blood taken at the same time: the clear advantage is for pbf since he is the heavier fighter.
Third: you're right. Pac's pride. Pac doesn't want to bow down to a guy who wants to force his ways like he is the friggin king of this sport.
Why did'nt pbf did that to all of his opponents before? (the blood tests?)
Seriously if sr. didn't opened his mouth and pbf didn't followed through with the demands i won't see no problems of this fight not happening!
What do you think of the last line taeth? Do you agree with that?

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Seriously??? I TRIPLE NEGATIVE, FOLKS!!! That's what I think about the last line. Learn some grammar. But yes, you are probably right. It was mostly a pride thing for the two camps. Floyd is a very delicate fighter in terms of negotiations.

And, mad_takamura said that Floyd comes in like a middleweight in his fights. I assume you only mean the fight with JMM, b/c in most of his other fights he is outweighed by his opponents, and always comes weights in at the contractual weight. Granted, I am thoroughly pissed about him doing that to JMM. I think Floyd is a total douche as a person. But, I think you are word vomitting and making no F***ing sence.

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Originally Posted by JonnyFolds

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Originally Posted by mad_takamura

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Originally Posted by Taeth

What blood transfusion are you reffering to? They don't do a blood transfusion for a blood test. They take a minute amount of blood which the body recovers in less than an hour.

The main excuses they made for Pacquiao's lose to Erik were
1. He wasn't allowed to wear Reyes.
2. He had the wrong socks on.

I also haven't placed the blame solely on Pacquiao, I just said they are making every out to look like Mayweather is ducking Manny when in fact both sides are to blame. I think Pacquiao should be allowed to ask for 10 million dollars for every pound above 147, it was discraceful for Mayweather to come in at 146 against Marquez. That really pissed me off. But it also really pisses me off about the pleuthora of lame excuses Manny's camp has made about not wanting to take blood which are totally rediculous. That being said I think Mayweather's camp made a big deal out of the steroids just to get into Manny's head, and in that sense its their fault for bringing something up I don't feel has any credence, to me Manny is a clean fighter, but he is just letting his ego get the better of him. I think they both want to fight, but they also want something that will allow them to have a mental edge over eachother. But the fact is neither of them will have a complete resume without the other simply because how can you not face far and away the best other guy in the sport when they are in your weight division, you two are the most popular fighters and the fight is being asked for by virtually every sports fan.

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If you're really blaming both sides, why is it in your first post that you seem to be siding more with pbf?
You should have made clear that you blame both sides at the onset of this thread. ;)
Anyways i already gave you the reason why pac doesn't want to have blood taken from this fight, and that first fight with EM was one.
Two even if both guys (pbf and pac) have their blood taken at the same time: the clear advantage is for pbf since he is the heavier fighter.
Third: you're right. Pac's pride. Pac doesn't want to bow down to a guy who wants to force his ways like he is the friggin king of this sport.
Why did'nt pbf did that to all of his opponents before? (the blood tests?)
Seriously if sr. didn't opened his mouth and pbf didn't followed through with the demands i won't see no problems of this fight not happening!
What do you think of the last line taeth? Do you agree with that?

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Seriously??? I TRIPLE NEGATIVE, FOLKS!!! That's what I think about the last line. Learn some grammar. But yes, you are probably right. It was mostly a pride thing for the two camps. Floyd is a very delicate fighter in terms of negotiations.

And, mad_takamura said that Floyd comes in like a middleweight in his fights. I assume you only mean the fight with JMM, b/c in most of his other fights he is outweighed by his opponents, and always comes weights in at the contractual weight. Granted, I am thoroughly pissed about him doing that to JMM. I think Floyd is a total douche as a person. But, I think you are word vomitting and making no F***ing sence.

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Please follow the arguments. I just made my points that manny has a basis why he does'nt want to bow down to pbf's demands in terms of blood testing.
Do you presume i don't make no fucking sense solely because of my last sentence? But you understood my point and replied to it, right? I guess my post did made sense. :rolleyes:
Anyways before you lecture me about fixing my grammar, please fix your spelling too. It doe'snt make "sense" by saying it like "sence".

pacquiao doesn't want to "bow down" to mayweather jr. because he's a pussy cherrypicker. simple as that. he knows he will get owned by either mayweather jr. and mosley.

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If you're really blaming both sides, why is it in your first post that you seem to be siding more with pbf?
You should have made clear that you blame both sides at the onset of this thread. ;)
Anyways i already gave you the reason why pac doesn't want to have blood taken from this fight, and that first fight with EM was one.
Two even if both guys (pbf and pac) have their blood taken at the same time: the clear advantage is for pbf since he is the heavier fighter.
Third: you're right. Pac's pride. Pac doesn't want to bow down to a guy who wants to force his ways like he is the friggin king of this sport.
Why did'nt pbf did that to all of his opponents before? (the blood tests?)
Seriously if sr. didn't opened his mouth and pbf didn't followed through with the demands i won't see no problems of this fight not happening!
What do you think of the last line taeth? Do you agree with that?

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Seriously??? I TRIPLE NEGATIVE, FOLKS!!! That's what I think about the last line. Learn some grammar. But yes, you are probably right. It was mostly a pride thing for the two camps. Floyd is a very delicate fighter in terms of negotiations.

And, mad_takamura said that Floyd comes in like a middleweight in his fights. I assume you only mean the fight with JMM, b/c in most of his other fights he is outweighed by his opponents, and always comes weights in at the contractual weight. Granted, I am thoroughly pissed about him doing that to JMM. I think Floyd is a total douche as a person. But, I think you are word vomitting and making no F***ing sence.

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Please follow the arguments. I just made my points that manny has a basis why he does'nt want to bow down to pbf's demands in terms of blood testing.
Do you presume i don't make no fucking sense solely because of my last sentence? But you understood my point and replied to it, right? I guess my post did made sense. :rolleyes:
Anyways before you lecture me about fixing my grammar, please fix your spelling too. It doe'snt make "sense" by saying it like "sence".

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And why should Mayweather bow down to the 10 millions per pound? And why then at first Pacquiao said he was scared of needles and that blood draw would weaken him and once the video of him getting blood draw for Hatton showed, he argued something totally different?

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Originally Posted by JonnyFolds

Seriously??? I TRIPLE NEGATIVE, FOLKS!!! That's what I think about the last line. Learn some grammar. But yes, you are probably right. It was mostly a pride thing for the two camps. Floyd is a very delicate fighter in terms of negotiations.

And, mad_takamura said that Floyd comes in like a middleweight in his fights. I assume you only mean the fight with JMM, b/c in most of his other fights he is outweighed by his opponents, and always comes weights in at the contractual weight. Granted, I am thoroughly pissed about him doing that to JMM. I think Floyd is a total douche as a person. But, I think you are word vomitting and making no F***ing sence.

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Please follow the arguments. I just made my points that manny has a basis why he does'nt want to bow down to pbf's demands in terms of blood testing.
Do you presume i don't make no fucking sense solely because of my last sentence? But you understood my point and replied to it, right? I guess my post did made sense. :rolleyes:
Anyways before you lecture me about fixing my grammar, please fix your spelling too. It doe'snt make "sense" by saying it like "sence".

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And why should Mayweather bow down to the 10 millions per pound? And why then at first Pacquiao said he was scared of needles and that blood draw would weaken him and once the video of him getting blood draw for Hatton showed, he argued something totally different?

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Are you still on this topic man? Just let it go, the fight will happen sometime down the line.