World Cup 2010

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by Master

I am seriously considering putting bets on Argentina winning the world cup what do people think?

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Wouldn't waste your money mate. You'll get relatively shit odds because the team on paper looks much better than it is.

For Argentina, Messi is half the player he is for Barca. Infact i was reading an article in 4-4-2 and according to a poll in Argentina around 3/4's of Argentinian fans believed Messi's form at Barca to be a 'fluke' simply because he cannot turn it on for Argentina.

They don't retain the ball well at all so it means that Messi can not be effective in the final third as he has little support once he gets there. They are also likely to play with Otamendi at right back, who is really a centre back. This means he won't be over-lapping Messi much like Dani Alves does at Barca. Another reason why Messi isn't as effective.

So in short, i wouldn't waste your money. ;)

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yup

absoloutely no value betting that, id rather just stick a pound on the lottery than back an argentina coached by maddona

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Well yeah, that's all with out factoring in Maradona who looks out of his depth as a coach.

On paper it's a class team aswell.

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Originally Posted by The Rascal

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

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Originally Posted by FTMatty

Most Spaniards rate Villa over Torres anyway.
They'll just drop Fabregas in behind Villa. If only England had that kind of luxury.

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Capello should take Zamora. Heskey is finished and Zamora would be a good compliment to Rooney.

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Darren Bent and Gabriel Agbonlahor are the best two English strikers behind Rooney and Defoe IMO. How not even one of them are not on that plane I'll never know.

God knows why he takes Carlton Cole and Emile Heskey is just useless. I can see why he takes Crouch, offers us something different up front especially with his height.

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You no I love you Lefty but that has to be some sort of joke??

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by The Rascal

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

Capello should take Zamora. Heskey is finished and Zamora would be a good compliment to Rooney.

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Darren Bent and Gabriel Agbonlahor are the best two English strikers behind Rooney and Defoe IMO. How not even one of them are not on that plane I'll never know.

God knows why he takes Carlton Cole and Emile Heskey is just useless. I can see why he takes Crouch, offers us something different up front especially with his height.

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You no I love you Lefty but that has to be some sort of joke??

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Sometimes i think people don't realise how much the game has changed and how important a player like Cole or Heskey can be, due to their ability to hold up the ball and bring others into play. Cole's all round game is better than Defoe's (although Defoe is improving) and Gabby's, as is Heskey's and that's why he'll start alongside Rooney.

Here's one for discussion... I think a fit (and forgetting experience) Jagielka, Dawson or King are all better than Rio or Terry. If Dawson had any caps and Jags had more I would feel far more confident with those 2 at the back than any other partnership - both are different class (as is Ledley King)

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by The Rascal

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

Capello should take Zamora. Heskey is finished and Zamora would be a good compliment to Rooney.

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Darren Bent and Gabriel Agbonlahor are the best two English strikers behind Rooney and Defoe IMO. How not even one of them are not on that plane I'll never know.

God knows why he takes Carlton Cole and Emile Heskey is just useless. I can see why he takes Crouch, offers us something different up front especially with his height.

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You no I love you Lefty but that has to be some sort of joke??

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No way man, I rate Agbonlahor highly. I'ld have him over Cole, Zamora and Heskey any day. 4th Best English striker IMO. Got everything and most importantly, lightening pace.

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by The Rascal

Darren Bent and Gabriel Agbonlahor are the best two English strikers behind Rooney and Defoe IMO. How not even one of them are not on that plane I'll never know.

God knows why he takes Carlton Cole and Emile Heskey is just useless. I can see why he takes Crouch, offers us something different up front especially with his height.

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You no I love you Lefty but that has to be some sort of joke??

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Sometimes i think people don't realise how much the game has changed and how important a player like Cole or Heskey can be, due to their ability to hold up the ball and bring others into play. Cole's all round game is better than Defoe's (although Defoe is improving) and Gabby's, as is Heskey's and that's why he'll start alongside Rooney.

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Cole is a poor man's Crouch and right now, Zamora is better at Heskey's role than Heskey is.

Right now, I'll take Zamora over Cole or Heskey as a target/holding forward.

If you don't watch Fulham much, you might not realize how good he has been this year. He's not well like and he's coming off two down years. His goals were he didn't score much last year, but he did the "holding up the ball" job well enough for Dempsey, Johnson, and Murphy to score enough to make Europa. This year, he's done target job even better and become a scoring threat again. He's produced in the Europa.

The Numbers:

Heskey: 21 Starts, 11 Sub, 5 Goal/2 Assists (2 goals in the Carling Cup)

Cole: 23 Starts, 4 Sub, 9 Goals/2 Assists

Zamora: LEAGUE - 27 Starts, 8 Goals/4 Assists.
FA CUP - 4 Starts, 3 Goals.
Europa - 11 Starts, 1 Sub, 6 Goals/2 Assists.

The Highlights:

Against Wolfsburg, holding and passing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m98Ce...eature=related

Against Wolfsburg, taking a long ball, holding, an finishing himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lvVb...eature=related

If you want a target, I'm sure what more you want than this performance against Juventus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0k3...eature=related


I would think Capello would want to go with the guy who is playing the best right now.