Re: Wladimir - Haye is afraid
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El Kabong
After the Sam Peter fight I don't know who Wlad can possibly fight that has really earned a shot, but I do believe he's up for an optional defense. Here are the rankings for the IBF and WBO titles....as bad as they are the WBA's is still worse and hell even beyond the ratings there's not a whole bunch left for Wlad to do in the division...maybe winning the WBC belt after he brother retires.
there are 2 Great Match-ups for Wlad after the Peter fight:
- David Haye
- Alexander Povetkin
Both fights would be Huuuuuge. I hope these guys grow some balls and one of these fights happens next year
IF these two countinue with the DUCK then we have others like Adamek and Solis, but hell, for the good of boxing Haye or Povetkin are the fights to happen.
Re: Wladimir - Haye is afraid
It's all simmering along very nicely.
Re: Wladimir - Haye is afraid
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
I think if Pianetta progresses quickly and does not falter he may be a good challenger down the line (3-4 years maybe earlier).
Wlad will secure his legacy with or without fighting Haye and Povetkin, cuz ALL haye has done at HW is Valuev (who was previously beaten by Chagaev, who Wlad embarassed) and ALL povetkin has done at HW is Chambers in a close decision (who wlad dominated and KO'd out of reality)
This, and next year its Haye and Povetkin, If they don't fight "The Champ" it will be Adamek or Solis
in 2 years Denis Boytsov, Kubrat Pulev and Robert Helenius will be top contenders for Wlad.
Re: Wladimir - Haye is afraid
Oh he ain't afraid or he wouldn't be a fighter. He's just good at being a prick so he tried to use that to have us fans help scam his way into I big payday. I don't think he's scared of loosing he just knows that If he does no one (especially in the states) is going to want to see him in much of anything after that. He's got a family to feed so I don't Blame him. Most of these guys are way overpaid so why not him too. Hey I don't dislike the guy, I wouldn't bet on it but I'd give him just as good of a shot as Peter has
Re: Wladimir - Haye is afraid
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Mar
Oh he ain't afraid or he wouldn't be a fighter. He's just good at being a prick so he tried to use that to have us fans help scam his way into I big payday. I don't think he's scared of loosing he just knows that If he does no one (especially in the states) is going to want to see him in much of anything after that. He's got a family to feed so I don't Blame him. Most of these guys are way overpaid so why not him too. Hey I don't dislike the guy, I wouldn't bet on it but I'd give him just as good of a shot as Peter has
Sam Peter has taken punches from some big boppers at heavyweight...when has Chicken Little?
Sam Peter has taken on some guys with very difficult styles (Toney, Chambers, Vitali, Wladimir)...when has Chicken Little?
Sam Peter has already fought BOTH Klitschko's and didn't whine 1 single time about it, he WANTED the challenge, THAT my friend is what a FIGHTER does....talking shit until the spotlight is on you and then making excuses as to why a fight vs Wladimir or Vitali can't happen yet is what a coward does.
So far Chicken Little has taken the easy road, well he's going to be in for a very rude awakening because if he EVER fights Wlad or Vitali right now or anywhere down the line he's going to find out that there is no easy road win or lose.
I have never rated Chicken Little, I've seen him fight he has quick hands, he has a big mouth, he has some pop but Wlad is in no danger with him, he still throws LOOOOOONG LOOOOOOPY punches with that overhand right and that's not going to beat the Steelhammer right cross to the point of impact. I don't care if Wlad gets any respect for beating up on this dude, at this point after all the shit that has been talked and all the shennanigans that have been pulled I just want to see Chicken Little whupped like a little kid that stole something.
I remember Floyd Mayweather Jr. helping an opponent up after he knocked him down to keep the fight going...I want Wlad to do that to this punk
Re: Wladimir - Haye is afraid
Now what Haye has done is just boxing business, understandable as I've explained on the previous page. However this means that his fans can shut the fuck up about the K brothers being cowards or pussies and how Haye is going to smash them or blaming the brothers not wanting the fight. Haye can go fight Audley Harrison and make his estimated 16 million USD or Evander Holyfield for a little bit more than that, since he's a bigger name. His fans and Haye himself at this point has no more credibility.
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What about "breathing life into the heavyweight division" and all that crap? Can we ditch that as well?
I think he should fight Adamek, Vitali just said they offered Adamek a fight and he refused as well....perhaps it was just so Tomaz could figure out how he would do vs a bigger guy first, because in all honesty he said he would liek to fight the Klitschko's but he never directly called them out or anything.
Re: Wladimir - Haye is afraid
Yeah lyle I think adamek is just trying to really get settled in at heavy and put in a few more fights, which is completely fine. Don't think he's afraid of anyone really, while arreola might not be the best boxer ever he hits pretty dam hard and adamek had no problem getting in there with him. I would be fine with haye doing the same thing except he came out and lambasted the brothers for being shit 2 years ago and yet has to sign on the dotted line. If you're not going to walk the walk, then don't talk the talk simple as.
Re: Wladimir - Haye is afraid
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armin
Yeah lyle I think adamek is just trying to really get settled in at heavy and put in a few more fights, which is completely fine. Don't think he's afraid of anyone really, while arreola might not be the best boxer ever he hits pretty dam hard and adamek had no problem getting in there with him. I would be fine with haye doing the same thing except he came out and lambasted the brothers for being shit 2 years ago and yet has to sign on the dotted line. If you're not going to walk the walk, then don't talk the talk simple as.
Exactly right, Adamek came into the heavyweight division with some humility and aiming to prove himself....unlike someone else