Re: David Haye interview.
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El Kabong
Holyfield is scheduled to fight Sherman Williams November 5th
Looks like it will be Audley Harrison (or at least NOT Holyfield) unless we are to wait until the summer for a fight, I wouldn't be shocked either way though.
CFH I don't get your view of the situation....NO WAY does Wlad lose to this punk, Vitali may be older and a little slower than he used to be but he's still effective enough to beat anyone (other than Wlad), and as for Adamek, I think he's already proven more at heavyweight than the current WBA title holder...that's a HUGE risk to take when it's The Klitschko's that are the big money fights.
I don't think he beats Wlad and I've never said so. Vitali is old, his skills are diminishing, and I think he's primed for a loss. Haye's speed would trouble him. I don't think it's a sure thing by any means, but I'd have Haye - Vitali as a 50/50 fight. As for Ademek, I'm still not sold on him as a legit heavyweight and I would absolutely favor Haye if they fought.
Re: David Haye interview.
Vitali has fallen off quite a bit due to age and injuries but I don't see any legit threats to him, I don't see anyone other than Wlad that could do better than be a 50/50 shot vs Vitali right now. I give Shannon Briggs a very slim puncher's chance because Vitali hasn't been hurt much and Briggs doesn't have it in him to follow up and therefore he's nowhere near 50/50.
The speed of Chicken Little bothered Valuev....Vitali is more agile and a lot more crafty and cagey than that lumbering oaf. Besides Vitali's awkward herky jerky style would mess with the rhythm of whoever he fought so I think that kind of makes pure speed a moot point. Vitali's defense is also very good, he's hard to catch.
As for Adamek I think if he can decision someone like Arreola and mix it up while he's doing it, I think he's tough enough to out work the WBA title holder.
Re: David Haye interview.
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El Kabong
Vitali has fallen off quite a bit due to age and injuries but I don't see any legit threats to him, I don't see anyone other than Wlad that could do better than be a 50/50 shot vs Vitali right now. I give Shannon Briggs a very slim puncher's chance because Vitali hasn't been hurt much and Briggs doesn't have it in him to follow up and therefore he's nowhere near 50/50.
The speed of Chicken Little bothered Valuev....Vitali is more agile and a lot more crafty and cagey than that lumbering oaf. Besides Vitali's awkward herky jerky style would mess with the rhythm of whoever he fought so I think that kind of makes pure speed a moot point. Vitali's defense is also very good, he's hard to catch.
As for Adamek I think if he can decision someone like Arreola and mix it up while he's doing it, I think he's tough enough to out work the WBA title holder.
Arreola is dog shit and is a fat lazy bastard who we will not see in a world title fight again, Adamek would loose to Haye aswell.
Re: David Haye interview.
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Arreola is dog shit and is a fat lazy bastard who we will not see in a world title fight again, Adamek would loose to Haye aswell.
Well yeah after last night's performance by Arreola, I may rethink that hypothetical matchup, but I don't think it makes Adamek a fight that Chicken Little wants, it would make Arreola a fight that Chicken Little wants.
Re: David Haye interview.
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El Kabong
Vitali has fallen off quite a bit due to age and injuries but I don't see any legit threats to him, I don't see anyone other than Wlad that could do better than be a 50/50 shot vs Vitali right now. I give Shannon Briggs a very slim puncher's chance because Vitali hasn't been hurt much and Briggs doesn't have it in him to follow up and therefore he's nowhere near 50/50.
The speed of Chicken Little bothered Valuev....Vitali is more agile and a lot more crafty and cagey than that lumbering oaf. Besides Vitali's awkward herky jerky style would mess with the rhythm of whoever he fought so I think that kind of makes pure speed a moot point. Vitali's defense is also very good, he's hard to catch.
As for Adamek I think if he can decision someone like Arreola and mix it up while he's doing it, I think he's tough enough to out work the WBA title holder.
David Haye is the chosen one, like Luke Skywalker. He will bring order and excitement to a moribund division and restore boxing's rightful place within the mainstream media. For he who brings order and excitement to the HW division will be the savior of the sport. ;D
Re: David Haye interview.
Thats one of the best Haye interviews I have read...He was not going out of his way to be obnoxious or talking about how great he is or cursing while talking about his opp...Or the usual Haye "I am going to kick his ass" etc....The reasons why I have turned my back as a Haye fan....I was a Haye fan a while back but then his whole attitude just went south in the class department.....As a fighter I like the guy but I just don't like to follow or support fighters who show no class personally
Re: David Haye interview.
Haye is the man in the division everyone want's to fight. Therefore he is the man. It's simple.
Re: David Haye interview.
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Hornfinger
Haye is the man in the division everyone want's to fight. Therefore he is the man. It's simple.
Wlad has the belts, Wlad has beaten the best, Chicken Little is nothing more than a commentator at this point. Yes everyone wants to fight him because he has run his mouth for nigh on 4 years about what he'd do as a heavyweight and what has he done? He's pulled out of fights vs the very people he said he'd be more than willing to fight to bring excitement back to the division and he's picked off: Monte Barrett, Nicolay Valuev, and John Ruiz, and rumor has it he's going to fight Audley Harrison or perhaps James Toney next.
People don't want to fight that cat because he's "the best" they want to fight him to shut that fucking mouth of his, but the issue with that is that Chicken Little who has been running his mouth is now AVOIDING The Klitschko's....in my part of the world if you say "I can kick your ass" and are given the opportunity to prove it you had best at least ATTEMPT to do it. Chicken Little has no back bone, he is a yellow rat bastard of a coward and it is a shame he even has a title.
Re: David Haye interview.
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
Haye is the man in the division everyone want's to fight. Therefore he is the man. It's simple.
Wlad has the belts, Wlad has beaten the best, Chicken Little is nothing more than a commentator at this point. Yes everyone wants to fight him because he has run his mouth for nigh on 4 years about what he'd do as a heavyweight and what has he done? He's pulled out of fights vs the very people he said he'd be more than willing to fight to bring excitement back to the division and he's picked off: Monte Barrett, Nicolay Valuev, and John Ruiz, and rumor has it he's going to fight Audley Harrison or perhaps James Toney next.
People don't want to fight that cat because he's "the best" they want to fight him to shut that fucking mouth of his, but the issue with that is that Chicken Little who has been running his mouth is now AVOIDING The Klitschko's....in my part of the world if you say "I can kick your ass" and are given the opportunity to prove it you had best at least ATTEMPT to do it. Chicken Little has no back bone, he is a yellow rat bastard of a coward and it is a shame he even has a title.
All irrelevant. Haye is the man everyone in the division wants to fight.
klitschos need to stop the silly clauses in the contracts and get the pay day they're not going to get with anyone else.
Re: David Haye interview.
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Yeah the first time he sat down (can't remember which Klit) the terms were (iirc) as follows
Rematch it Haye wins - Fair enough
Fight with the other Klit if Haye wins the rematch - What we would all want anyway
Fight at the Veltins Arena in Germany - Would rather Wembley
Only money Haye makes is from the UK TV deal (which fell through and Haye pulled out with a back injury). -Can see his point
I would laugh if A-Force beat him though. Not because i dislike Haye. Simply because every fucker and his dog has laughed at Harrison for banging on about being a World Champion. It would be quality if he did it. ;D
For some reason I'm a bit of a closet Audley fan, he's shite, but doesn't know it. He talks shit, but you can't knock the guy for trying and for getting as far as he is.
Deep down I hope he does win a wolrd title, just for the comedy value.
Me too, truth be told I'd probably root for Audley against any other fighter. He represents the underachiever, the cowardly, the deluded, the laughing stock, in short the kind of person I can get behind.
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Me too, truth be told I'd probably root for Audley against any other fighter. He represents the underachiever, the cowardly, the deluded, the laughing stock, in short the kind of person I can get behind.
This. I love to hate Audley and to see him lifting the WBA belt - well, it would be comical. ;D
Re: David Haye interview.
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Hornfinger
All irrelevant. Haye is the man everyone in the division wants to fight.
klitschos need to stop the silly clauses in the contracts and get the pay day they're not going to get with anyone else.
Yeah...as I stated before people want to fight him because he calls out both Klitschko brothers, backs out of fights with both of them and then he goes out and fights Monte Barrett and thinks he's beaten someone worth a damn and that proves that all the bullshit he's spouted off is true. People want to fight this guy to shut him up, making money doing it is just extra incentive.
The Klitschko's offered 50/50 down the middle and yet we have no fight....If the WBA title holder wanted rematch clauses, I'm sure Wlad would be more than willing to oblige...I'm sure he'd LOVE the chance to beat Chicken Little down 2 or more times....if you are truly "The Best" then you don't care how many rematches there are.
And Riddle me this buddy, if the Klitschko fight is Chicken Little's biggest pay day out there, then why not have a go for a few rematches? Why if it's so easy to beat Wladimir and if he's wanting big money then why not have that fight multiple times?
Re: David Haye interview.
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
All irrelevant. Haye is the man everyone in the division wants to fight.
klitschos need to stop the silly clauses in the contracts and get the pay day they're not going to get with anyone else.
Yeah...as I stated before people want to fight him because he calls out both Klitschko brothers, backs out of fights with both of them and then he goes out and fights Monte Barrett and thinks he's beaten someone worth a damn and that proves that all the bullshit he's spouted off is true. People want to fight this guy to shut him up, making money doing it is just extra incentive.
The Klitschko's offered 50/50 down the middle and yet we have no fight....If the WBA title holder wanted rematch clauses, I'm sure Wlad would be more than willing to oblige...I'm sure he'd LOVE the chance to beat Chicken Little down 2 or more times....if you are truly "The Best" then you don't care how many rematches there are.
And Riddle me this buddy, if the Klitschko fight is Chicken Little's biggest pay day out there, then why not have a go for a few rematches? Why if it's so easy to beat Wladimir and if he's wanting big money then why not have that fight multiple times?
Don't even waste your time with him Lyle he speaks out his ass...Anyone who thinks a guy who runs his mouth is more important then the fellow who holds the titles and has the resume that proves he has been kicking ass is just talking out of his...I can understand Hayes point with the contracts he is not the first fighter I have heard that has complained of such things but again maybe if Haye did not act like such an ass they would not make it so hard for them?....So forget nthe Klitschkos for now...Plenty of guys out there he can defend his WBA trinklet against.....Adamek would drool at the opportunity...Boystov would be a great slugfest...just to name a few....
I love how he mentions that his people are looking around to see what fight is best for him....I think the guy that Arreola barely made it past last night is hpping for a title shot
Re: David Haye interview.
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
Haye is the man in the division everyone want's to fight. Therefore he is the man. It's simple.
Wlad has the belts, Wlad has beaten the best, Chicken Little is nothing more than a commentator at this point. Yes everyone wants to fight him because he has run his mouth for nigh on 4 years about what he'd do as a heavyweight and what has he done? He's pulled out of fights vs the very people he said he'd be more than willing to fight to bring excitement back to the division and he's picked off: Monte Barrett, Nicolay Valuev, and John Ruiz, and rumor has it he's going to fight Audley Harrison or perhaps James Toney next.
People don't want to fight that cat because he's "the best" they want to fight him to shut that fucking mouth of his, but the issue with that is that Chicken Little who has been running his mouth is now AVOIDING The Klitschko's....in my part of the world if you say "I can kick your ass" and are given the opportunity to prove it you had best at least ATTEMPT to do it. Chicken Little has no back bone, he is a yellow rat bastard of a coward and it is a shame he even has a title.
And what is your part of the world Lyle? Ukraine? Germany? No! Fucking Texas unless I'm mistaken. You have one of the all time great HW's in Big George and you'd rather talk shit none fucking stop about 2 fucking boring shit retards from the opposite side of the world to you, and then you bring up your part of the world? Bullshit is what springs to my mind!
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rjj tszyu
And what is your part of the world Lyle? Ukraine? Germany? No! Fucking Texas unless I'm mistaken. You have one of the all time great HW's in Big George and you'd rather talk shit none fucking stop about 2 fucking boring shit retards from the opposite side of the world to you, and then you bring up your part of the world? Bullshit is what springs to my mind!
My part of the world is North Carolina and I only bring it up because, having never been to where ever Chicken Little (or Hornfinger) is from I wanted to make sure people knew that at least in America arrogance and cowardice are not good personality traits.
Judging from your posting bullshit doesn't only spring to your mind ;)