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This thread says something about the sport. The list is genuinely endless, Beau Jack, Joe Jeanette, King Levinsky etc etc.
A harder thread would be to name great fighters who are the least tragic, or who had a fulfilled and happy life after boxing ......
Max Schmeling
Ray Leonard
George Foreman
Oscar de la Hoya (so far)
Lennox Lewis (so far)
Often, that piece of their character or personality that made them a great fighter ends up making them unhappy humans afterwards. For the classical Greek scholars amongst you, thats called hamartia. :cool:
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Davie Moore, the fighter Duran beat died in a tragic accident.
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George Chuvalo - nobody's had a tougher go of it than Georgie....he lost 3 sons (2 to heroine and 1 to suicide) and his wife to suicide after their second son had died.
I didnt know that. That's fucked up!! :( :(
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Clifford Etienne, kidnapping car jacking and tried to shoot the cops. Kid Akeem, Johnny Owen, Leavander Johnson, Oscar Diaz....just some off the top of my head. Theres over 600 guys that have died from injuries in the ring.
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Doo Koo Kim, died from injuries caused in his fight with Mancini, his mother killed herself, as did the ref who didn't stop the fight in time
That just about takes it :eek: .
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Rubin Hurricane Carter. Getting robbed of a life and career for a crime he did not commit.
I'm not so sure he did not commit the crime to be honest though. Fair enough if you watch the film he didn't but he was never proven innocent and even after reading 2 different books (one of which he wrote himself, another which was written on his behalf) I'm not sold.
In fact there were so many lies in the film, I think that is what has made me so dubious as to whether or not he really is innocent.
A chat with someone he knew at the time has always had me wondering too.
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Scott Harrison. The guy could of/should of been undisputed champ. Instead he's languishing in a Spanish prison
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I think Lyle did made the best selection and in the whole, Chuvalo and Collins JR will be the most 2 tragic for me, one being a ring legend "punished" by life and the other one being ruined by the greed.
As for Hurricaine, mordern evidences seem to demonstrate that he was, in fact, very guilty of the crime. Carter wasn't an angel and already had a thick criminal record behind, he wasn't ranked #1 but considered on his downfall (being classed #9 by the ring magazine at the time). Also, during his second process, he's never been formally ACQUIT, not at all, he's been released because of vice of procedure, which means that the proofs against him were solid but that the police didn't follow the protocol correctly therefore the proof couldn't not be considered. I've read a lot about that case and I felt quit gutted when I realized that I got fooled by Bob Dylan's song all my life long. The movie is very un-accurate on a lot of issues too, painting the main detective as an "evil" man, which he was not, among other things.
Rubin "Hurricane" Carter: The Other Side of the Story
Top Ten Myths About Rubin Hurricane Carter and the Lafayette Grill Murders
Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter - The Hurricane
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Nameless you made me think of Sonny Liston, wanted to be loved after his life of crime but no one came out to see him after he became champion. That must have hurt him. Also a very sad death.