Re: The Return Of The Hitman - Good or Bad ?
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I don't see what good can come out of hatton coming back...but if he does khan would be a pretty good opponet. I don't see how people are so high on khan I'd give anyone that can hit harder than an 7th grader a fair shot against the guy...till i've seen him prove otherwise. I'm on the fence with khan his loss may have been a fluke...or it may not have. But going from looking up at the ceiling aganist prescott to now he's a top guy at 140 for beating salita, and paulie is misleading , but smart on his part. I wanna see him in with one of these guys and see what happens when a maidana, or ortiz hit's him back
Not really. He beat Paulie better than Hatton and Cotto did, and that was a Paulie who was coming off his two best performances. He also beat Kotelnik, which didn't count for much until he practically beat Alexander, plus he beat Maidana (albeit in a very close fight). I take you're point about him being in with somebody like Maidana. I don't take your point about him being in with Ortiz. Khan made Ortiz quit on his stool in the amatuers. He'd have no qualsm about doing it again. It's not like Ortiz is mentally strong enough to erase that memory and put the beat down on Khan.
He's near the very top at 140, because only Bradley is better than him. So that means either a) - 140 isn't that good, or b) - Khan is actually good.
Amir Khan is good hes got good speed, good technique, good footwork, good jab, ETC. We just want to know if he can beat a puncher, and if he can that will answer alot of questions and get more people behind him.
I mean there has been fighters with below average chins, that have been successful. I mean for example Terry Norris didn't have a great chin, and he is considered top 3 Jr Middleweight of all time.
Now Amir Khan isn't on his level, but what im saying is despite that weakness. Terry Norris improved and took risks to show he improved, by facing dangerous punchers like John Mugabi.
And Amir Khan has too do the same, beating Paulie Malignaggi is all well and good. And it was a decent win as was his win over Andriy Kotelnik. But that too me isn't answering the question's i need to know.
I thought he'd beat both of them infact i stated before the Paulie Malignaggi fight, that he would dominate him because he's too big. And he will walk right through Paulie Malignaggi's feather dusters.
I'd like to see if Amir Khan can hold it together, against a pressure fighter who packs a punch. Aka Prescott, Maidana.
I agree mate, although i don't necessarily think beating a puncher will prove that much. 9 times out of 10 he beats Prescott. Trouble is, he has a weak chin, so what happened against Prescott could theoretically happen at any point against pretty much any fighter. If he were to beat Maidana, it would just say to me 'he beat that particular puncher'. And we all know he's capable of that anyway, or at least he has the skills to do so.
So to me, beating a puncher doesn't really prove anything, unless he takes some very solid shots clean on the chin and walks through them. Because if that were to happen, you could assume that the he might have just been tight at 135. And let's be honest, that isn't going to happen. If he beat somebody like Maidana, he would do it through boxing and not taking chances. IMO beating Maidana doesn't make it any more likely that he'll beat the next feared puncher (whoever that might be). The chin will always be a problem. Prescott was lucky enough to land. Whoever else is lucky enough to land will probably do the same thing.
That's why i can't blame him for making his money now. It'll be a good year or so until he goes in with somebody with good power at 140, and you can't blame him, because another knockout loss means it's pretty much over.
It's a shame, because like you say, he's got a lot going for him talent wise.
But with that attitude mate how are we ever going to know ? i slightly disagree i think it would prove something. It would prove he has matured and he can fight a disciplined fight.
When Terry Norris got KO'ed by Julian Jackson, it was quite a damaging loss. But he comeback and ruled the division beating a puncher like John Mugabi, he also lost to Simon Brown. But proved he could comeback and fight a disciplined fight, for 12 rounds embarrassing Simon Brown over 12 rounds.
IMO Amir Khan would often get caught too much for my liking, so if he could beat a puncher like a Maidana or whatever. It would prove to me he understands his weakness, and has improved on his defense aswell as maturing as a fighter.
Because he would often want to prove he's a fighter, and you simply can't do that if you've got a below average chin.
I think his best performance was against Andriy Kotelnik, his defense was quite solid. His footwork was good, and his combination punching was solid and not wild.
That Amir Khan would embarrass Maidana IMO, he just needs to prove it. I would love him to comeback and rule the division being a Brit.
Because awhile ago i dreamt of being in Olympics and ETC, i obviously quit and i've moved on now. But i'd love him to make it big and rule the division, he can do it he just needs the big fights now.
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Part of me would love to see him back, the other half would like to see him stay put. If he comes back then I will support him, but I won't have the highest of expectations. He's been out so long and you just know he hasn't looked after himself.
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what may be good for his bank balance , will be very bad for his health.
I think Ricky has had a good career and should stick to promoting.
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If he has a burning desire to return and not reading his old press write ups then fine. Khan is still an enigma and has yet to really display his skills. Hatton has been inactive and we don't know how much walking around weight he's carrying. It's a tossup and Khan can ride a bicycle all night but if Hatton shows up in shape, the spokes will be knocked off Khan's ring wheels so to speak,. I like Hatton but only if he comes in hard, mean and ready to fight and he's been off a few times lately.
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If he has a burning desire to return and not reading his old press write ups then fine. Khan is still an enigma and has yet to really display his skills. Hatton has been inactive and we don't know how much walking around weight he's carrying. It's a tossup and Khan can ride a bicycle all night but if Hatton shows up in shape, the spokes will be knocked off Khan's ring wheels so to speak,. I like Hatton but only if he comes in hard, mean and ready to fight and he's been off a few times lately.
Khan would knock Hatton out in quick fashion wouldn't rule out a Salita type stoppage.
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I don't see why people get so hard on Hatton's back.
Remember when Roy Jones was fading and people were calling for his retirement, it was after being KTFO by two guys who wouldn't be able to carry prime RJJ's jockstrap.
Hatton has been brutally iced by, lets face it, two guys who really should beat him. I don't see any big shame in losing to Floyd and Pac.
That being said, the Pac KO was vicious and if he didn't need to fight anymore, obviously it wouldn't be advisable at this stage in his life.
But I don't see why people think he can't be compeditive anymore. He'll always be a tough fight for anybody (except Pac lol).
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I don't see why people get so hard on Hatton's back.
Remember when Roy Jones was fading and people were calling for his retirement, it was after being KTFO by two guys who wouldn't be able to carry prime RJJ's jockstrap.
Hatton has been brutally iced by, lets face it, two guys who really should beat him. I don't see any big shame in losing to Floyd and Pac.
That being said, the Pac KO was vicious and if he didn't need to fight anymore, obviously it wouldn't be advisable at this stage in his life.
But I don't see why people think he can't be compeditive anymore. He'll always be a tough fight for anybody (except Pac lol).
I agree with most of this post. I just think that the main reason people get on at Hatton is because of the length of his absence and the shape he has let himself get into. If he doesn't lose some weight he'll be fighting Randy Couture next.
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It all depends on who he'd want to fight and at what weight division. I wouldn't like to see him doing one of these prize fighter things. It's only going to damage his career.
I would love to see him beat the fuck out of amir khan though.
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I don't see why people get so hard on Hatton's back.
Remember when Roy Jones was fading and people were calling for his retirement, it was after being KTFO by two guys who wouldn't be able to carry prime RJJ's jockstrap.
Hatton has been brutally iced by, lets face it, two guys who really should beat him. I don't see any big shame in losing to Floyd and Pac.
That being said, the Pac KO was vicious and if he didn't need to fight anymore, obviously it wouldn't be advisable at this stage in his life.
But I don't see why people think he can't be compeditive anymore. He'll always be a tough fight for anybody (except Pac lol).
I agree with most of this post. I just think that the main reason people get on at Hatton is because of the length of his absence and the shape he has let himself get into. If he doesn't lose some weight he'll be fighting Randy Couture next.
LOL, oh I haven't seen any pics of him lately. Pics?
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would absoloutely go nuts if hatton ever announced a comeback
really couldnt care if it was against a hobo in downtown basra, id pay top dollar for a ticket
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In all seriousness, he should fight his brother. On the undercard of Vitali/Wlad, a Hatton Promotions event at Bury Leisure Centre. They could call it Brotherly Love. Would be superb.
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In all seriousness, he should fight his brother. On the undercard of Vitali/Wlad, a Hatton Promotions event at Bury Leisure Centre. They could call it Brotherly Love. Would be superb.
.....why not have it in Philadelphia?
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In all seriousness, he should fight his brother. On the undercard of Vitali/Wlad, a Hatton Promotions event at Bury Leisure Centre. They could call it Brotherly Love. Would be superb.
.....why not have it in Philadelphia?
Too far fetched...
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If he has a burning desire to return and not reading his old press write ups then fine. Khan is still an enigma and has yet to really display his skills. Hatton has been inactive and we don't know how much walking around weight he's carrying. It's a tossup and Khan can ride a bicycle all night but if Hatton shows up in shape, the spokes will be knocked off Khan's ring wheels so to speak,. I like Hatton but only if he comes in hard, mean and ready to fight and he's been off a few times lately.
Khan would knock Hatton out in quick fashion wouldn't rule out a Salita type stoppage.
I agree. Hatton could never really deal with speed/combinations. It'd be hard to watch him fight Khan.
