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Just for future reference they've already rubbished the idea of fighting Chagaev. I actually do respect Ruslan, he's a tough dude and has had some hard breaks, the hepititus, the achilles injury, seemingly being "stuck" as a WBA fighter...its a shame. He was willing to fight Wlad on short notice (and vice versa) and that took guts.
how does that make sense? we're criticizing him because he's about to face one of the WORST fighters in an already CRAPPY divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by amatNo I agree %100, however, Haye has been so sharp in his criticism of the Klitschko's and reckless with his mouth that bigger things were expected of him. He was the one who called himself bigger then Holyfield. He created this monster and yeah it may make money, but it's AUDLEY HARRISON. It's more then a joke. So yeah he's making money but because of his own mouth we are allowed to criticize him moreso then we would any other fighter. Plus you have his fans like Hornfinger and Lefty who go to the furthest possible extent to defend the guy and call Klitschko a bitch when the reality is just what you posted. That doesn't help things.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoTo be fair, Eddie Chambers, Kevin Johnson and Tony Thompson can't draw 20 odd thousand to watch either of them fight a bum. They would if they could. Practically anybody would. If you had the draw power, you'd line your pockets as much as you could before tackling either Klitschko. Realistically Haye has little chance of winning, so after that his career is done with. He's doing what we'd all do in his situation. The only reason he's calling the Klitschko's out is to line his own pockets. It's self promotion, putting your name at the side of a widely known fighter. He'll fight one of them, possibly even both of them depending on how he does, so i don't see the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by amatHa. Yes we don't have a contender in the heavyweight division, that much is true. But how much does it say about your boy(friend?) that guys like Eddie Chambers, Kevin Johnson and Tony Thompson have all jumped at fighting a Klitschko before Haye? Haye could actually stand to gain by fighting Chambers, Johnson and Thompson right now actually. All those guys are better then Audley and by a good margin. Even Kevin Johnson.Quote:
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Originally Posted by generalbulldog
yeah but we don't care about fat american bums. so it's like for like.
To be honest, i don't even know why i'm even defending Haye. I ike him, but i'd love it if he got ko'd by the A-Train.. I feel the same as MarkTKO feels really.
I don't defend haye. I mearly point out that you can't attack him or critisize him without attacking or critisizing the whole division. further more no one knows the truth or facts surrounding negotiations with recent opponants. It's all here say.
Yes you really can. Where is that video of Haye after the Enzo fight where he criticized the whole division and said he was different. Or the escalator confrontation? Or the talk after the Barrett fight? He's gone against his own word consistently so yes you can criticize him because he's the one who talked himself up as being different and going straight for the title. When Wlad told him to wait in line, he said he didn't have to because he was better and only the champions matter blah blah blah. Then he fought Valuev and beat him less convincingly then Evander Holyfield did, wasted time fighting his WBA mandatory and now fights Harrisson. It's garbage. '
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnOAN...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJWJ1Uesb-0&feature=search
This was 08! It's been 2 years and nothing. Note that Barrett was supposed to be 'big, dangerous and a name.' He brings all this on himself.
You should have just said "Lyle, all your seemingly inane rantings from 2008 regarding this one fighter were 100% correct and well founded"...and I would have just say "Thank you, I was just doing my due dilligence as a boxing fan"Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
I posted all the videos, I told everyone Chicken Little was nothing but a little punk, and I told you that if Chicken Little does fight Wlad then Chicken Little will get STOMPED...when, when will people start to believe me??? He compared WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO to Enzo Maccarinelli and Alexander Gurov...really??? I mean REALLY?!?!
Wlad said it best (all you Chicken Little fans pay attention) "TALK IS CHEAP"
....After listening to that commentary no fucking wonder Setanta went under
You can save the ego-trip Lyle, we're all right on some things and wrong on others.
I say Mayweather-Pacquiao steps into the ring against each other way before Haye steps into the ring with a Klit if at all.
2 years from now we'll be discussing Haye fighting 50 year old Holyfield at Wembley and why it's such a big fight and why he didn't fight a Klit again.:p
....yes but I called this one from the giddyup and considering how much shit I took for bringing it up time and time again and how it took 2 freaking years for the regular forum members to catch on, I deserve credit ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
haye v harrison is gonna be a piss easy to sell to the general public in uk, the average guy in uk knows both these fighters but dont know fk all abt boxing:(. the media will have a field day & haye will be his usual media bitch self. he will be on all the talk shows & that shite question of sport show. they will get a sell out crowd & make shit loads & remember hayes chin is well dodgy so everytime he gets in the ring anything can happen, so any heavyweight has a chance against haye, i would probably piss myself laughing if haye got beat by audrey. its worth it just for the small chance that happened.
I remember reading an old thread here that people werent too sure about the Khan-Presscott fight but there were some that bought it anyway because of the slight chance Khan could get ko because of his shit chin. I think the members here said it was worth the money because the slight chance Khan did get ko happened.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Drago
I'm still not paying for it, but I changed my mind about watching it on a stream, because there is that chance that Haye could be sparked in hilarious fashion.
Would be a shame to waste that vs Audley, but you best believe I'd have a fancy new sig of it ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
here is the odds from william hill
usa uk
haye 1000 1/10
draw +2500 25/1
harrison +550 11/2
worth a fiver on audrey?
and believe it or not i just seen a got a fiver left on my william hill account from the grand national back in april ;D didnt realise had won anything;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Drago