Sign of being weight drained?

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Ricky Hatton was weight drain at 140 against the Pacman, even though he came in at 140, that's what I heard from his fans. The theory was that Hatton likes to balloon to 190 pounds between bouts and it took a lot of energy out of him to get back to 140. Anyways weight drain or not Hatton wasn't going to win even if he was allowed to come in at 147 and Pacquiao at 140.

The talent and skill level between the 2 is huge.

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Thats bullshit mate Hatton was on the weight 3 weeks before the fight, the problem was he goes into his camps so early because he has all that weight to shift this time he over trained and peaked to early but like you say Hatton gets battered any weight anytime in his career.

I'd say 17 lbs is an awful lot to put on in 24 or so hours. The weight comes from carbohydrates and water so that's a lot of meals and a lot of fluid to put on.

The thing is, you can't really put a cap on how much weight a fighter is allowed to put on between the weigh in and the fight, as it's detrimental to what you're trying to achieve. If the overall goal is to make the sport safer, limiting a fighter's carbohydrate and water intake isn't safe. It won't prevent fighters from being weight-drained in the first place. If a guy can still make 130 (however difficult it is), he will still do it, regardless of the fact that he may have a restriction on how much weight he can put on between the weigh-in and the fight. Limiting this is dangerous, as it increases the risk of the fighter going into the ring in a poorly nourished and dehydrated state.

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Originally Posted by ono

I'd say 17 lbs is an awful lot to put on in 24 or so hours. The weight comes from carbohydrates and water so that's a lot of meals and a lot of fluid to put on.

The thing is, you can't really put a cap on how much weight a fighter is allowed to put on between the weigh in and the fight, as it's detrimental to what you're trying to achieve. If the overall goal is to make the sport safer, limiting a fighter's carbohydrate and water intake isn't safe. It won't prevent fighters from being weight-drained in the first place. If a guy can still make 130 (however difficult it is), he will still do it, regardless of the fact that he may have a restriction on how much weight he can put on between the weigh-in and the fight. Limiting this is dangerous, as it increases the risk of the fighter going into the ring in a poorly nourished and dehydrated state.

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What's funny is that the fighters who fought closest to their walking around weight always seem to be in the best shape. Don't understand why they let themselves go between fights..

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

He's talking about Mayweather-Corrales.

Yes, Diego was weight drained, but he would've been dominated by Floyd that night no matter what the weight was.

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Possibly, but not 5 KDs worth...and the diego that fough JLC would have been much more game....

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Corrales could have weighed 175 for that fight and still been knocked down 5 times. It was just a matter of different styles and such.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

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Originally Posted by ono

I'd say 17 lbs is an awful lot to put on in 24 or so hours. The weight comes from carbohydrates and water so that's a lot of meals and a lot of fluid to put on.

The thing is, you can't really put a cap on how much weight a fighter is allowed to put on between the weigh in and the fight, as it's detrimental to what you're trying to achieve. If the overall goal is to make the sport safer, limiting a fighter's carbohydrate and water intake isn't safe. It won't prevent fighters from being weight-drained in the first place. If a guy can still make 130 (however difficult it is), he will still do it, regardless of the fact that he may have a restriction on how much weight he can put on between the weigh-in and the fight. Limiting this is dangerous, as it increases the risk of the fighter going into the ring in a poorly nourished and dehydrated state.

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What's funny is that the fighters who fought closest to their walking around weight always seem to be in the best shape. Don't understand why they let themselves go between fights..

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Honestly mate i've never understood the mindset of fighters. Full glycogen replenishment takes around 20 hours. Recovering from dehydration is often longer depending on the severity. I don't understand how anybody would want to risk going into a fight in a dehydrated or mal-nutritioned state, just for the sake of being able to fight at a lower weight than what they should be fighting at. It's daft. Being 4 or 5 pounds heavier than your opponent come fight night, shouldn't be the most important thing. There's no real way of telling how beneficial it is other than the presumption that because you're slightly bigger, you'll automatically be stronger. The risk of not being physically right come fight night is one that i wouldn't take.

The other thing i don't really understand is the use of sweat suits in training camp. The actual idea behind them is to increase body temperature thus increasing calorie expenditure, but again the risks far outweigh the benefits. Muscle loss and dehydration again is a big problem.

Nutrition in Boxing also seems light years behind other sports. Put it this way, if most fighters fully replenished their glycogen stores after every training session throughout their careers, and if the fighter actually fought at his natural weight, the weight divisions in Boxing would look so much different.

This is why i was never surprised by Pacquiao's ability to move up in weight. He's probably fighting at his most comfortable weight now, because he's able to nourish himself properly throughout a training camp. This in itself should improve the quality of his training camp, and it should leave him with nothing to worry about come the time of the weigh in. He goes into the fight in the best possible condition and the results speak for themselves.

I remember watching Kostya Tszyu weigh in before the Hatton fight, he looked drawn and gaunt and he failed the first weigh in? Unusual for Tszyu as his fitness regime has been well documented. He just didn't look right and i thought he was in trouble before the fight began, he just didn't have the strength that he usually had and the tables were turned on him. Tszyu was always the bully in his fights, not against Hatton. Weight was an issue, it also didn't help wearing your balls as earrings, but that's another story!