Re: I Honestly hope everything goes wrong with Pac/Margacheato
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Mr140
You know i am kinda lost on Margarito's career because people say Mosley was not his first time. Well i guess that makes sense because once a cheater always a cheater. My only question is when exactly was the first time he tried to use them. Cotto and other guy who's ear Margarito destroyed is the only really extreme damage I'v seen Margarito do. Paul and Clottey seemed ok even other fighters he beat seemed not to damaged. So to me if you can't point when he did it, then i am going with, his first time being Mosley. This would mean Margarito really never used them got caught and had them taken away. In that case it was a a attempt to cheat and he served his time and i really don't mind fight much. I mean if Beanflicker or Andre can point out when he started i love to hear it because i sure don't know.
My take on this is that Margarito had definitely used loaded gloves in the Cotto fight. I say that with high probability but, of course, it hasn't been proven and I don't think it will be.
Why would Margarito just start to use the loaded gloves in his fight with Mosley when Mosley had already been beaten by Cotto who Margarito (allegedly without the loaded gloves) just annihilated and humiliated? It doesn't make sense. Does Margarito or his team think that Mosley was so invincible that he would need to use some dirty tricks to beat him and risk being caught? You have to remember that Mosley already had 5 loss coming into that fight. Cotto was undeafeated when Margarito faced him. If Team Margarito would resort to cheating, who of these 2 boxers do you think they would start it on?
Re: I Honestly hope everything goes wrong with Pac/Margacheato
Theres no point speculating about whether he had the straps against Cotto because it is just speculation and we'll probably never find out. Who knows what might have been going on behind the scenes that made his team think that the dodgy straps might be needed for the 1st time against Mosley.
The way the fight ended up would suggest he might have had them on though the way he steamrollered Cotto in the 2nd half of it.
Re: I Honestly hope everything goes wrong with Pac/Margacheato
It does not matter to me if this fight flops as long as PAC makes mince meat out of Margarito. KTFO win for PAC!!!
Re: I Honestly hope everything goes wrong with Pac/Margacheato
Well corner the fight with Mosley and Cotto was pretty close and i think it could of gone either way. For me Mosley is more of a problem then Cotto for Margarito in few ways. One being he can't really be hurt, and Margarito style is built around breaking down the fighter he is facing.
Re: I Honestly hope everything goes wrong with Pac/Margacheato
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daptone
Theres no point speculating about whether he had the straps against Cotto because it is just speculation and we'll probably never find out. Who knows what might have been going on behind the scenes that made his team think that the dodgy straps might be needed for the 1st time against Mosley.
The way the fight ended up would suggest he might have had them on though the way he steamrollered Cotto in the 2nd half of it.
I think if he had them on, and it was done by his corner for reasons it would of started there @ Cotto. A loss there would of had him going backwards.
Its amazing how it has turned out really,my God look who he is fighting!
If he knew about the wraps and did that to Cotto, I hope Manny is the deliverer of Karma to come and breaks a few of his ribs right up under his arm or round the side where you cant protect them.;)
Re: I Honestly hope everything goes wrong with Pac/Margacheato
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Mr140
Well corner the fight with Mosley and Cotto was pretty close and i think it could of gone either way. For me Mosley is more of a problem then Cotto for Margarito in few ways. One being he can't really be hurt, and Margarito style is built around breaking down the fighter he is facing.
Yeah I agree. Cotto was running from shane in the last third of that match. I say running because its wasnt his style to retreat, he would break guys down then apply more pressure against shane he began to run. That also made it evident that Cotto would not be able to get away from Margarito once he started to retreat. Unless margarito had cement in his face then I think he beat Cotto fair and square by doing to him what he was known to do to others. Margarito walked through all of his shots. Cotto also helped the case by doing too much movement and gassing himself by trying a new style (lateral movement) against his toughest opponent.
The fact that Shane has only been hurt once in his entire career. A hard right hand, coming only after a serious headbutt which reportedly caused a concussion suggests that the Margarito camp coupled that knowledge with the fact that Shane had Cotto running makes sense that Margarito's handlers felt he need something extra to wear Shane down. Also Cotto had shown that he could be hurt in his previous fights. Chop, Torres, hell even Paulie stung him a bit. I think people are just trying to boot strap that "attempt" to cheat to all of his fights because he beat the dog shit out of the beloved Cotto.
Funny that Shane admitted to PEDs, but no one says they don't ever want to see him fight again.. Never seen so much hate for a guy that was caught before he could cheat, where guys like Toney, Mosley, and Vargas are all guys that were caught.
