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Zuniga is a trier though. He's certainly working harder than Cloud.
Yes because of the way he done it, no one had previously stopped Fulgencio Zungia the way Lucian Bute did. He was stopped on cuts vs Kelly Pavlik but gave a good account of himself. Fulgencio Zuniga is a pretty tough fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Really? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBTavoris Cloud looks like another Jeff Lacy to me. Fulgencio Zuniga gave Kelly Pavlik a pretty decent fight even flooring him early in the fight, but was destroyed by Lucian Bute with a body shot. Another one of Lucian Bute's underrated wins. I'd like to see if he can go the distance with Tavoris Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboCool. I've got the Cloud fight on now but it's in foreign so not really watching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI don't think that's happened yet, it's the main event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I know Lyle is big on Cloud but he doesn't excite me a great deal. He's clearly a decent fighter, wins over Johnson and Woods attest to that but he hasn't gripped me thus far. Not watchign this fight though so don't know how he is performing.
This is a sparring session. When Cloud turns it on he dominates but he's cruising too much.
His combos are great. His jab, not so much. He's willing to use it at least but its just not a great jab.
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Originally Posted by ICBYes because of the way he done it, no one had previously stopped Fulgencio Zungia the way Lucian Bute did. He was stopped on cuts vs Kelly Pavlik but gave a good account of himself. Fulgencio Zuniga is a pretty tough fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanReally? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBTavoris Cloud looks like another Jeff Lacy to me. Fulgencio Zuniga gave Kelly Pavlik a pretty decent fight even flooring him early in the fight, but was destroyed by Lucian Bute with a body shot. Another one of Lucian Bute's underrated wins. I'd like to see if he can go the distance with Tavoris Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboCool. I've got the Cloud fight on now but it's in foreign so not really watching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI don't think that's happened yet, it's the main event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I know Lyle is big on Cloud but he doesn't excite me a great deal. He's clearly a decent fighter, wins over Johnson and Woods attest to that but he hasn't gripped me thus far. Not watchign this fight though so don't know how he is performing.
This is a sparring session. When Cloud turns it on he dominates but he's cruising too much.
His combos are great. His jab, not so much. He's willing to use it at least but its just not a great jab.
Yes he is..."a tough cookie" would George Foreman say...
I've never understood that saying. I mean how can anything be considered tough that falls apart and disolves in tea?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAssQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBYes because of the way he done it, no one had previously stopped Fulgencio Zungia the way Lucian Bute did. He was stopped on cuts vs Kelly Pavlik but gave a good account of himself. Fulgencio Zuniga is a pretty tough fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanReally? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBTavoris Cloud looks like another Jeff Lacy to me. Fulgencio Zuniga gave Kelly Pavlik a pretty decent fight even flooring him early in the fight, but was destroyed by Lucian Bute with a body shot. Another one of Lucian Bute's underrated wins. I'd like to see if he can go the distance with Tavoris Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboCool. I've got the Cloud fight on now but it's in foreign so not really watching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI don't think that's happened yet, it's the main event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I know Lyle is big on Cloud but he doesn't excite me a great deal. He's clearly a decent fighter, wins over Johnson and Woods attest to that but he hasn't gripped me thus far. Not watchign this fight though so don't know how he is performing.
This is a sparring session. When Cloud turns it on he dominates but he's cruising too much.
His combos are great. His jab, not so much. He's willing to use it at least but its just not a great jab.
Yes he is..."a tough cookie" would George Foreman say...
It annoys me how Cloud lets Zuniga off the ropes so easily. This is fighting at too measured of a pace.
Ice, I just don't think Zuniga is an underrated win for any top-ish level fighter.
See Peter Kay sketch about hob nobs being the marines of the biscuit world. I imagine cookies are in the same field as hob nobs rather than rich teas!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
You haven't tried my grandmas cookies,if you did you probably would understand...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboI've never understood that saying. I mean how can anything be considered tough that falls apart and disolves in tea?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAssQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBYes because of the way he done it, no one had previously stopped Fulgencio Zungia the way Lucian Bute did. He was stopped on cuts vs Kelly Pavlik but gave a good account of himself. Fulgencio Zuniga is a pretty tough fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanReally? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBTavoris Cloud looks like another Jeff Lacy to me. Fulgencio Zuniga gave Kelly Pavlik a pretty decent fight even flooring him early in the fight, but was destroyed by Lucian Bute with a body shot. Another one of Lucian Bute's underrated wins. I'd like to see if he can go the distance with Tavoris Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboCool. I've got the Cloud fight on now but it's in foreign so not really watching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI don't think that's happened yet, it's the main event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I know Lyle is big on Cloud but he doesn't excite me a great deal. He's clearly a decent fighter, wins over Johnson and Woods attest to that but he hasn't gripped me thus far. Not watchign this fight though so don't know how he is performing.
This is a sparring session. When Cloud turns it on he dominates but he's cruising too much.
His combos are great. His jab, not so much. He's willing to use it at least but its just not a great jab.
Yes he is..."a tough cookie" would George Foreman say...
I know what your saying but its the way he done it, i personally never believed Lucian Bute would of stopped him that early. It was quite a big shock to me at the time, and as you see in this fight he is pretty tough.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Lastly i just don't think Tavoris Cloud puts enough effort in to any round, he has big gaps before he starts the offence. He done it in the Glen Johnson fight, and in the Clinton Woods fight at times aswell.
I think Cloud is more talented than Lacy with more variety as far as offensive weapons go but his stamina is a bit of an issue for me. Musclebound guys seem to have that problem.
Ah well forget about Cloud, Solis the beast is up now. I really like this guy, even if he is a fat fuck. He still knocks out David Haye imo.
Solis is actually pretty fast. Too bad he makes Arreola look disciplined.
Solis is sow man :p
Agree. Thinks he's leaps and bounds ahead of LacyQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Personally, I think that Tavoris Cloud looks pretty beatable as one of the champs, and if Cleverly can't get Braehmer in the ring due to his legal battle, Cloud would prove to be someone he can beat with volume, and a guy much more suited to him than that French fella was.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan