Cotto vs Mayorga - Top Rank Trailer

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Mosley hits a hell of a lot harder than Mayorga, as well as Margarito with his loaded gloves ;), like i said Cotto will stop him and make him bitch out as he did against DLH, and well when that happens you'll be nowhere to be found

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No.

Mayorgas heavy punches made Forrest wilt and fight cautious. Vernon walked through Mosleys. De La Hoya has stated that Mayorga has "very heavy hands" but hes never comented on Shanes power. Shane is quick but he doesnt hit as hard as Ricardo;)

Spinks ate Taylors punches up but got dropped by Mayorga. Vargas got dropped twice by Mayorga but Mosley couldnt.

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hahaha what punches? there were like 20 punches combined the entire fight, Mayorga beat a shot Vargas with a fucked up back by Majority Decision, Mosley won by stoppage, then by a ONE PUNCH KNOCKOUT in the rematch! only guy he beat by KO which is a standout is Forrest who didn't take the fight seriously, nice try though

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lol Mosley def did a better job on Vargas in the second fight. Knocked him clean out.

Mayorga beat Forrest TWICE. Deal with it.

Now do you remember the Cotto vs. Ricardo Torres fight ?

Cotto got dropped hard twice in that one, and Mayorga is A LOT like Torres except bigger, tougher, and better.

And that was Cotto in his prime at 140, not the Cotto of now.

Mayorga has a real chance in this fight. You don't want to believe it because you are such a die hard Cotto fan. But Mayorga is capable of beating him.

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by No Contest

if Mayorga gets in good shape.

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This what my thinking is depending on. Im hoping that the recent fight has given him a good spring board to jump in to this camp in relatively good shape and bearing in mind a win puts him in line for a fight with Pacquiao I think he might just train for this fight!

Mayorga on his day makes Cotto quit faster than he did with Margarito. In fact I dont think Cotto will get the choice to quit. Mayorga will be the heaviest puncher that Cotto has faced.

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Your posts always stick out from the rest because of your hatred of Cotto. So I'll address your post. First... your labeling of Cotto as a "quitter" shows how precious little you know about boxing. The guy is anything BUT a quitter. But you hate Cotto so much you can't give him an ounce of credit. The guy's a warrior, and 99.99% of this forum knows that. That he took a knee against Margarito and his questionable, loaded gloves... when his nose had been broken back in the 2nd round and his face was a swollen, bloody mess? Yes, he did. Probably why he's still able to fight now.

But back to Cotto-Mayorga. I've always said Mayorga has the "proverbial" puncher's chance. He's wild... he's powerful. If Cotto allows a big shot early, it could be trouble. I'm sure Stewart is schooling him to be careful in the first few rounds. And yes... Cotto is naturally the smaller man. On the other hand, he's twice... no... scratch that... he's MANY times the boxer Mayorga is. He can stick and move, he can bang to the body, he can play defense when he has to. If he brings his "A" game... he should come out on top. Yes, Mayorga's tough, rugged, and hits hard. But he's a wild swinger with no game plan other than throw haymakers all night.

He's trying to get into Cotto's mind, so Cotto will come out mad at the opening bell and trade with him. I bet Stewart has warned him about that, so I doubt Cotto will make that mistake.

One thing, BTW. As usual... win or lose... I plan to be on the forum after the fight.
Just make sure you do the same.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Mosley hits a hell of a lot harder than Mayorga, as well as Margarito with his loaded gloves ;), like i said Cotto will stop him and make him bitch out as he did against DLH, and well when that happens you'll be nowhere to be found

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No.

Mayorgas heavy punches made Forrest wilt and fight cautious. Vernon walked through Mosleys. De La Hoya has stated that Mayorga has "very heavy hands" but hes never comented on Shanes power. Shane is quick but he doesnt hit as hard as Ricardo;)

Spinks ate Taylors punches up but got dropped by Mayorga. Vargas got dropped twice by Mayorga but Mosley couldnt.

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hahaha what punches? there were like 20 punches combined the entire fight, Mayorga beat a shot Vargas with a fucked up back by Majority Decision, Mosley won by stoppage, then by a ONE PUNCH KNOCKOUT in the rematch! only guy he beat by KO which is a standout is Forrest who didn't take the fight seriously, nice try though

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lol Mosley def did a better job on Vargas in the second fight. Knocked him clean out.

Mayorga beat Forrest TWICE. Deal with it.

Now do you remember the Cotto vs. Ricardo Torres fight ?

Cotto got dropped hard twice in that one, and Mayorga is A LOT like Torres except bigger, tougher, and better.

And that was Cotto in his prime at 140, not the Cotto of now.

Mayorga has a real chance in this fight. You don't want to believe it because you are such a die hard Cotto fan. But Mayorga is capable of beating him.

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yea i do remember the Cotto/Torres fight, i know you don't cause you said it your self you haven't watched ANY of Cotto's fights, he was dropped ONCE, the first knockdown of his career, and he ended up dropping Torres twice and KO'ing him with a body shot, Torres also has both better speed and technique than Mayorga, and i'm leaving it there, make sure to log on and take your pokes once Cotto wrecks Mayorga

To me Cotto got pretty Lucky against Mosley and Clotty with the decisions i thought he lost both. Also i think people are forgetting just how bad a beating he has taken form Margarito and Pac. He does not have the chin or the power of Oscar El and he also does not poses Oscars speed as well dude. So i am kinda of confused on why you are bringing up Oscar fight because they are not alike at all.

I rewatched the Spinks-Mayorga fight and had it a draw 113-113. The commentary was pretty biased (Chris Byrd/Haymon). The ref was kind of biased but Mayorga was holding and hitting. The things I didnt agree with was the deduction for hitting after the bell it wasnt that late, and the ref jumped in late. As soon as he got in Mayorga didnt throw. Spinks lunges in with the head anytime they got close and he gave some headbutts. Also that causes the ref to immediately break them, he was like Cortez with the breaks. Two "slips" that could have been knockdowns, especially the one in the 12th round where Mayorga clearly hit him with a body shot. Just because Cory was flopping around doesnt mean that its not a kd. If a guy is off balance and you hit him thats a knock down most of the time. One time he leans back so much that he falls.

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Originally Posted by No Contest

I rewatched the Spinks-Mayorga fight and had it a draw 113-113. The commentary was pretty biased (Chris Byrd/Haymon). The ref was kind of biased but Mayorga was holding and hitting. The things I didnt agree with was the deduction for hitting after the bell it wasnt that late, and the ref jumped in late. As soon as he got in Mayorga didnt throw. Spinks lunges in with the head anytime they got close and he gave some headbutts. Also that causes the ref to immediately break them, he was like Cortez with the breaks. Two "slips" that could have been knockdowns, especially the one in the 12th round where Mayorga clearly hit him with a body shot. Just because Cory was flopping around doesnt mean that its not a kd. If a guy is off balance and you hit him thats a knock down most of the time. One time he leans back so much that he falls.

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I'm glad we half way agree ;D

But you gave Spinks far too many rounds. I had him winning 2 rounds maybe 3. He makes Mayorga miss, but he never makes him PAY.

Spinks would go on to later get gifts against Judah and Karmazin, no doubt because of his last name, but neither of those were nearly as bad as the decision he was given agasint Mayorga.

Utter nonsense.

Mayorga clearly knocked the man down at least twice.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by No Contest

I rewatched the Spinks-Mayorga fight and had it a draw 113-113. The commentary was pretty biased (Chris Byrd/Haymon). The ref was kind of biased but Mayorga was holding and hitting. The things I didnt agree with was the deduction for hitting after the bell it wasnt that late, and the ref jumped in late. As soon as he got in Mayorga didnt throw. Spinks lunges in with the head anytime they got close and he gave some headbutts. Also that causes the ref to immediately break them, he was like Cortez with the breaks. Two "slips" that could have been knockdowns, especially the one in the 12th round where Mayorga clearly hit him with a body shot. Just because Cory was flopping around doesnt mean that its not a kd. If a guy is off balance and you hit him thats a knock down most of the time. One time he leans back so much that he falls.

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I'm glad we half way agree ;D

But you gave Spinks far too many rounds. I had him winning 2 rounds maybe 3. He makes Mayorga miss, but he never makes him PAY.

Spinks would go on to later get gifts against Judah and Karmazin, no doubt because of his last name, but neither of those were nearly as bad as the decision he was given agasint Mayorga.

Utter nonsense.

Mayorga clearly knocked the man down at least twice.

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The two rounds he was deducted in he won, so they were 9-9, and if you throw in one kd, it's a pretty clear win for Mayorga, but you gotta score it how the ref rules it.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

To me Cotto got pretty Lucky against Mosley and Clotty with the decisions i thought he lost both. Also i think people are forgetting just how bad a beating he has taken form Margarito and Pac. He does not have the chin or the power of Oscar El and he also does not poses Oscars speed as well dude. So i am kinda of confused on why you are bringing up Oscar fight because they are not alike at all.

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seems you forgot that the beating he took from Margarito was most likely with loaded gloves and a broken nose from the 2nd round on, same play you put on Cotto not being like Oscar i can say on Mayorga being NOTHING like Margarito and much less Pacquiao, both guys have better boxing ability (although Margarito is limited), Pacquiao has blazing speed Mayorga doesn't, people are seriously starting to undersell or de-credit Cotto based on a fight he was cheated in, and a fight he fought with no corner, i've said it once and i'll say it again, he's going to surprise a lot of people this year with how much he still has left

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i've said it once and i'll say it again, he's going to surprise a lot of people this year with how much he still has left

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Ricardo has taken some big beatings and takes them well, while still trying to knock his opponent out with everything he throws. Cotto against Margarito, skirted the ring for rounds until he found a space to take a knee.

I dont think Cotto has as much fight in him as Mayorga. I think he will be surpried as to how hard mayorga hits and how strong he is and it will only be a matter of time before Cotto thinks to himself, that he doesnt really need to be in boxing any more and will probably just quit in the corner between rounds and only if Mayorga doesnt marraud him to the point the ref saves Cotto or peels him off the canvas;D.

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i've said it once and i'll say it again, he's going to surprise a lot of people this year with how much he still has left

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Ricardo has taken some big beatings and takes them well, while still trying to knock his opponent out with everything he throws. Cotto against Margarito, skirted the ring for rounds until he found a space to take a knee.

I dont think Cotto has as much fight in him as Mayorga. I think he will be surpried as to how hard mayorga hits and how strong he is and it will only be a matter of time before Cotto thinks to himself, that he doesnt really need to be in boxing any more and will probably just quit in the corner between rounds and only if Mayorga doesnt marraud him to the point the ref saves Cotto or peels him off the canvas;D.

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Mayorga never has been pounded by a guy wearing loaded gloves ;), and he flat out quit against DLH, looking up at Nady as if he were Jesus Christ himself, so get over it

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i've said it once and i'll say it again, he's going to surprise a lot of people this year with how much he still has left

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Ricardo has taken some big beatings and takes them well, while still trying to knock his opponent out with everything he throws. Cotto against Margarito, skirted the ring for rounds until he found a space to take a knee.

I dont think Cotto has as much fight in him as Mayorga. I think he will be surpried as to how hard mayorga hits and how strong he is and it will only be a matter of time before Cotto thinks to himself, that he doesnt really need to be in boxing any more and will probably just quit in the corner between rounds and only if Mayorga doesnt marraud him to the point the ref saves Cotto or peels him off the canvas;D.

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Mayorga never has been pounded by a guy wearing loaded gloves ;), and he flat out quit against DLH, looking up at Nady as if he were Jesus Christ himself, so get over it

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Don't waste your breath. Ross has been labeling Cotto as a quitter since Day One, showing how little he knows about boxing. But he's pretty much alone in his claims... sort of like pissing in the ocean, to make an analogy. But maybe we SHOULD take our shots now... 'cause the little Hater will be nowhere to be seen come the day after the fight.

Anybody who says he wishes the fighter gets into the ring with a shoulder injury/surgery still bothering him is not even a real boxing fan. He's just an annoying little hater with nothing useful to say.

For one thing El it was never proven that Margarito did jack shit and that does not change the fact that Cotto still took a beating. All i was saying is the beatings he took i think have taken there toll and then he moves up a weight class and fights a big puncher. Reason i bring up Cotto being nothing like Oscar is because he lacks his speed, his power and most important his chin. I am not picking anyone to win but to me this fight is kinda of a toss up depending on how the fighters show up.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

For one thing El it was never proven that Margarito did jack shit and that does not change the fact that Cotto still took a beating. All i was saying is the beatings he took i think have taken there toll and then he moves up a weight class and fights a big puncher. Reason i bring up Cotto being nothing like Oscar is because he lacks his speed, his power and most important his chin. I am not picking anyone to win but to me this fight is kinda of a toss up depending on how the fighters show up.

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I'm avoiding the slanging match in previous posts, but pretty much agree with all of this and Ross and Hulk have made their points too. Like you guys, I think Mayorga is a live opponent and if Cotto doesn't get the measure of him early then he's in for a long, long night. Cotto is not on the level of a prime Forrest nor as good as any of the fighters Mayorga has lost to in recent years. Plus he is no 154 pounder, even Foreman seemed to be bothering him in spurts. And no way have those poundings not taken a lot out of Cotto. He cuts easily and wilts down the stretch. I'm not so sure that he does have all that much left.

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Originally Posted by miles

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For one thing El it was never proven that Margarito did jack shit and that does not change the fact that Cotto still took a beating. All i was saying is the beatings he took i think have taken there toll and then he moves up a weight class and fights a big puncher. Reason i bring up Cotto being nothing like Oscar is because he lacks his speed, his power and most important his chin. I am not picking anyone to win but to me this fight is kinda of a toss up depending on how the fighters show up.

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I'm avoiding the slanging match in previous posts, but pretty much agree with all of this and Ross and Hulk have made their points too. Like you guys, I think Mayorga is a live opponent and if Cotto doesn't get the measure of him early then he's in for a long, long night. Cotto is not on the level of a prime Forrest nor as good as any of the fighters Mayorga has lost to in recent years. Plus he is no 154 pounder, even Foreman seemed to be bothering him in spurts. And no way have those poundings not taken a lot out of Cotto. He cuts easily and wilts down the stretch. I'm not so sure that he does have all that much left.

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All aboard the Mayorga train !

If anyone wants to see the fight before it actually happens, watch Judah vs Baldomir!!!
A skilled opponent vs a hard punchers
A changed the gameplan chin vs hit me and Imma try to knock you out chin
an upset!!!