Eddie Chambers v. David Haye

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Great stuff!

Haye is toilet. Fact. However, he is also one of the very best boxers on earth. Fact.

A fighter that is overrated, basically crap, has a terrible resume and no skills to speak of is a bombproof 100% P4P certainty. Interesting.

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No you're twisting things here.

What I am saying is that when it comes to evaluating p4p, I don't allow my personal opinions on how someone might fair in hypothetical matchups skew an analysis of their acomplishments.

You asked me if I rate David Haye's wins personally and I told you, I think they are overatted. That is my personal opinion.

However, he was still the undisputed cruiserweight champion, and now a legitimate heavyweight belt holder making him a two weight world champ.

Any fighter who becomes undisputed in one weight class and then moves up and wins a belt in another weight class deserves to be considered when it comes to p4p rankings, do you disagree with this?

I didn't say he was in my own top ten p4p but I don't have a problem debating his merits.

Regarding Haye vs Carl Froch, if they both weighed the same I don't know who would win. To me it's not relavent. When assessing p4p I compare their respective acomplishments.

Froch to my mind has fought much the better opposition, but he has lost to Kessler, and won a controversial win over Dirrell. He looked brilliant against Abraham

Haye has not lost for several years and has pretty much dominated most of the people he has fought since moving up to heavyweight. He's also been an undisputed champion whilst Froch has not. Now he's a two weight world champ, which Froch is not.

On the other hand, the quality of his opposition is not as good as Froch's.

You could make a case either way as to which is rated higher p4p. I would probably have neither in my top 10 but Haye above Froch is fine by me.

The BBC have David Haye as number 1 British fighter with Froch at 2, Khan 3. I can certainly agree with that.

However they have Yuriorkis Gamboa at number 10 world p4p which is obviously ridiculous ;D

This ain't happenin....but Eddie would potentially break the egg that is Haye's chin.

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Originally Posted by DonFlamenco

This ain't happenin....but Eddie would potentially break the egg that is Haye's chin.

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true, Haye has a busy schedule before he retires and cannot fit this fight in. :)

Chambers would be embarrased beaten up and knocked out by the 6th round. I have no doubt what so ever in that.