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I agree. I don't think Sergio should venture south of 160 anymore. He's getting older and already drops significant weight between fights to even reach 160. I remember him being heavy approaching the second Williams fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
He should fight Felix in Germany.
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONI agree. I don't think Sergio should venture south of 160 anymore. He's getting older and already drops significant weight between fights to even reach 160. I remember him being heavy approaching the second Williams fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
He should fight Felix in Germany.
theres no way that fight happens in germany
martinez is one of HBO`s new poster boys, cant see a single fight in the rest of his career being outside of the US
Also martinez would be very wary of fighting over in germany against a hometown fighter. Way too much stuff has gone down in that country to do with this sport over the years to convince anyone it would be a legitimately fair contest
Oh I don't disagree with you in the slightest. My point was that to fight Felix Sturm he'd have to go to Germany because after Sturm lost to beat ODLH he basically vowed to not come back and that'd be the most meanignfull fight at middleweight.Quote:
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONI agree. I don't think Sergio should venture south of 160 anymore. He's getting older and already drops significant weight between fights to even reach 160. I remember him being heavy approaching the second Williams fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
He should fight Felix in Germany.
theres no way that fight happens in germany
martinez is one of HBO`s new poster boys, cant see a single fight in the rest of his career being outside of the US
Also martinez would be very wary of fighting over in germany against a hometown fighter. Way too much stuff has gone down in that country to do with this sport over the years to convince anyone it would be a legitimately fair contest
Ohhh but don't you remember that if they fight at a catchweight of 155lbs that is technically a middleweight fight, and they could pad their resumees more with garbage about multiweight division champ....Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
I think the terminology you are dancing around with here is "cherry picking". All fighters do it, and will do it until time ends.
Apparently Lou DiBella is thinking about putting Martinez in with Peter Manfredo next. Of course this information is coming from a "source" close to the promoter, so it could well be BS
Sergio Martinez-Peter Manfredo Battle on DiBella's Mind - Boxing News
Hhhhmmmm.... Does Sergio deserve a gimmie fight?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSNyiSetZ8Y Just sayin...Quote:
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It's not ideal, but I think so. He arguably has had the toughest last five fights of active fighters. Moreover, what are his options? He might as well wait to see what happens with Pirog/Lemiuex/Kirkland/Cotto before jumping up in weight. There is literally isn't anyone around that he can fight. It may be the only option for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Back to your suggestion, who has Lemiuex beat to deserve a Martinez fight? Let's wait to see how he does against Rubio.
I agree. He's got a string of decent KO/TKO victories agains gate keepers. I mean, even a prospect has to beat a decent string of steadily rising competition before they deserve a shot at the champ. He's almost there, though. I feel the same way about Pirog who has done less than Lemiuex except for the WBA belt. He's KOed Jacobs. That's it. Besides that he's fought no one.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt's not ideal, but I think so. He arguably has had the toughest last five fights of active fighters. Moreover, what are his options? He might as well wait to see what happens with Pirog/Lemiuex/Kirkland/Cotto before jumping up in weight. There is literally isn't anyone around that he can fight. It may be the only option for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Back to your suggestion, who has Lemiuex beat to deserve a Martinez fight? Let's wait to see how he does against Rubio.
I get irritated about guys like Chavez Jr. Shit or get off the pot, dude. You're 42-0. Step up and get KOed like a bitch.
The Chavez Jr. v. Zbik fight is on June 4th. Martinez could take a fight to keep active and then face the winner of that fight. Problem is the winner of that fight ain't all that good. But, a fight with Chavez Jr. is a big money fight, a PPV fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONI agree. He's got a string of decent KO/TKO victories agains gate keepers. I mean, even a prospect has to beat a decent string of steadily rising competition before they deserve a shot at the champ. He's almost there, though. I feel the same way about Pirog who has done less than Lemiuex except for the WBA belt. He's KOed Jacobs. That's it. Besides that he's fought no one.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt's not ideal, but I think so. He arguably has had the toughest last five fights of active fighters. Moreover, what are his options? He might as well wait to see what happens with Pirog/Lemiuex/Kirkland/Cotto before jumping up in weight. There is literally isn't anyone around that he can fight. It may be the only option for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Back to your suggestion, who has Lemiuex beat to deserve a Martinez fight? Let's wait to see how he does against Rubio.
I get irritated about guys like Chavez Jr. Shit or get off the pot, dude. You're 42-0. Step up and get KOed like a bitch.
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONI agree. He's got a string of decent KO/TKO victories agains gate keepers. I mean, even a prospect has to beat a decent string of steadily rising competition before they deserve a shot at the champ. He's almost there, though. I feel the same way about Pirog who has done less than Lemiuex except for the WBA belt. He's KOed Jacobs. That's it. Besides that he's fought no one.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt's not ideal, but I think so. He arguably has had the toughest last five fights of active fighters. Moreover, what are his options? He might as well wait to see what happens with Pirog/Lemiuex/Kirkland/Cotto before jumping up in weight. There is literally isn't anyone around that he can fight. It may be the only option for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Back to your suggestion, who has Lemiuex beat to deserve a Martinez fight? Let's wait to see how he does against Rubio.
I get irritated about guys like Chavez Jr. Shit or get off the pot, dude. You're 42-0. Step up and get KOed like a bitch.
Every time I read something like this, I hurt my neck from nodding in agreement so vigorously. Damn straight!!! Especially the "get KOed like a bitch" part.
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So apparently this could actually be on the table. It would be a massacre.
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PROVIDENCE (March 17, 2011) – Middleweight contender Peter “The Pride of Providence” Manfredo, Jr. had a ringside seat in MGM Grand Theater at Foxwoods last Saturday night to witness the superlative performance turned in by WBC Emeritus and The Ring 160-pound champion Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez, who dropped previously unbeaten WBO junior welterweight titlist Sergiy “Razor” Dzinziruk five times en route to a major statement-victory by eighth-round knockout.
Manfredo (37-6, 20 KOs), arguably the leading American middleweight challenger, is riding a six-fight win streak since losing to super middleweight Saki Bika in 2008. The star of The Contender, Season One is currently rated No. 7 by the IBF and No. 9 by the WBC.
Now working fulltime as a laborer at the Dunkin’ Donuts Center in Providence, ironically, where he headlined four major shows, Manfredo dreams of fighting Martinez there this summer. The popular Italian-American boxer is like a modern-day Rocky with a twist: Peter’s not breaking legs but he is sweeping floors to provide for his family.
“Martinez is one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world, right up there with Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather,” Manfredo said. “Imagine me fighting him at The Dunk where I headlined shows and now work? That would be straight out of Hollywood! I know fight fans in Providence would give him a royal welcome. He would definitely be a tough fight for me and I’d be an underdog, but I’ve put myself in a challenger’s position the past two years, and I want a shot at the best. Getting a fight against Martinez is what fighters dream about, especially at home, and I’ve worked hard the past two years to get to this point. Hey, this is boxing and nothing’s written in stone; it only takes one shot to change the world. That’s boxing, and maybe I land an old Micky Ward shot to the body, and my life would be changed.
“Opportunities to fight somebody like Martinez don’t come around every day. Now is the right time for me. I’d be honored to get in the ring to fight him. I know I can compete with him. Like (Vinny) Paz says, ‘Fight or die.’ Styles make fights and this would be a very entertaining match-up. I’m a classic boxer-puncher and he’s a very fast, awkward fighter who seems to have found his power in the last few fights. Sergio keeps his hands down and bobs his head. Boxers aren’t taught to do that but he can because he’s so good. Martinez reminds me of Roy Jones. I’ve proven myself and want to get it on with Martinez.”
Manfredo has the proper pedigree, as an amateur and pro, in addition to possibly having a strength advantage versus Martinez, who has moved-up from junior middleweight, while Manfredo dropped down from 168. Three of Manfredo’s six career losses have been against much larger super middleweights – Joe Calzaghe in their WBO title fight, former world champ Jeff Lacy, and Bika.
During his 10 ½ year career, Manfredo has defeated world champion Frankie Randall, The Contender 2 winner Grady Brewer, previously unbeaten prospect Sherwin Davis, world title challengers Scott Pemberton and Alfonso Gomez, and present WBA No. 6 rated light heavyweight Joey Spina.
“I have valuable experience against great champions like Martinez,” Manfredo added. “I went through the whole thing with Calzaghe and learned a valuable lesson. I won’t make those mistakes again. I’m experienced fighting super middleweights, who were too big for me, but I’m a real middleweight. I’ll go for broke against Martinez, if given the opportunity, because I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.”
It is a complete waste of time fighting Manfredo at this point. Martinez has about 3 fights left at the max, to waste 6 months of it on Manfredo would be a really big shame. I really want to see Martinez to finish his career with a flourish of big fights, he has had plenty of gimme's earlier on in his career. If he is serious about wanting to be the best PFP then he just can't fight someone like Manfredo.