Re: has wlad run out of promotion ideas?
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El Kabong
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rjj tszyu
I really honestly do think Haye will KO Wlad. IMO he brings too much for Wlad to handle. Wlad can handle any style of fighter whether they are fast OR powerful OR a clever counter puncher etc. Wlad can handle all these things. His problems come when you start combining these things, see Sanders. Now Haye is far better than Sanders and he combines speed and power better than anyone in the HW division right now and Haye has HURT every fighter he has ever fought and I just can't see him not landing big on Wlad, and every time that has happened Wlad has been KO'd (I don't think he was genuinely hurt against Peter).
If I'm wrong then I'll hold my hand up and not make any excuses and take my new name and sig from Lyle. I just really think Haye WILL win.
That's fine for you to believe that, I mean if you're a fan, or if you've just got a hunch, then go ahead, support your fighter I certainly have no issues with that. You can see your fighter landing, I can see Wlad landing....people like to talk, speed, accuracy, power, reach, style....I just don't see where Wlad is so lacking in any 1 area that he doesn't come out of this fight the winner.
To counter somebody, you've got to make them miss and be in position to throw a punch...that's the trouble countering Wlad. Sanders did it because he was a southpaw and he threw some very quick and powerful left crosses. Can the WBA title holder do that? Well he won't fight as a southpaw so he better have some trick up his sleeve. I think he may try to clinch and maybe try some rough housing tactics, sneak in some rabbit punches like he did vs Ruiz. I certainly don't see the WBA title holder winning the way Brewster did...he just doesn't have that kind of chin.
I agree with you on that Lyle. Haye cannot let Wlad beat on him and catch him when he tires because that will not happen. No for me Haye has to use his very good reactions to get himself into position for counters and use his speed of foot and hand to negotiate angles. Also I think it will be Wlad that tries to clinch because he ALWAYS does, but that is where Haye will rabbit punch Wlad and try and put him off using the constant jab and grab tactics. I believe he will succeed too and that will make for a better fight regardless of the victor.
I really am looking forward to this and no matter what the outcome is, it is a fight boxing needed!
Re: has wlad run out of promotion ideas?
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
I really honestly do think Haye will KO Wlad. IMO he brings too much for Wlad to handle. Wlad can handle any style of fighter whether they are fast OR powerful OR a clever counter puncher etc. Wlad can handle all these things. His problems come when you start combining these things, see Sanders. Now Haye is far better than Sanders and he combines speed and power better than anyone in the HW division right now and Haye has HURT every fighter he has ever fought and I just can't see him not landing big on Wlad, and every time that has happened Wlad has been KO'd (I don't think he was genuinely hurt against Peter).
If I'm wrong then I'll hold my hand up and not make any excuses and take my new name and sig from Lyle. I just really think Haye WILL win.
That's fine for you to believe that, I mean if you're a fan, or if you've just got a hunch, then go ahead, support your fighter I certainly have no issues with that. You can see your fighter landing, I can see Wlad landing....people like to talk, speed, accuracy, power, reach, style....I just don't see where Wlad is so lacking in any 1 area that he doesn't come out of this fight the winner.
To counter somebody, you've got to make them miss and be in position to throw a punch...that's the trouble countering Wlad. Sanders did it because he was a southpaw and he threw some very quick and powerful left crosses. Can the WBA title holder do that? Well he won't fight as a southpaw so he better have some trick up his sleeve. I think he may try to clinch and maybe try some rough housing tactics, sneak in some rabbit punches like he did vs Ruiz. I certainly don't see the WBA title holder winning the way Brewster did...he just doesn't have that kind of chin.
I agree with you on that Lyle. Haye cannot let Wlad beat on him and catch him when he tires because that will not happen. No for me Haye has to use his very good reactions to get himself into position for counters and use his speed of foot and hand to negotiate angles. Also I think it will be Wlad that tries to clinch because he ALWAYS does, but that is where Haye will rabbit punch Wlad and try and put him off using the constant jab and grab tactics. I believe he will succeed too and that will make for a better fight regardless of the victor.
I really am looking forward to this and no matter what the outcome is, it is a fight boxing needed!
Good points made by both here, but im leaning towards rjj tszyu's comments, also I too believe he has the best chance of beating Wlad than anyone in the past 7yrs. He does have the tools, regardless what people say.
Re: has wlad run out of promotion ideas?
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Mattyhitman
Good points made by both here, but im leaning towards rjj tszyu's comments, also I too believe he has the best chance of beating Wlad than anyone in the past 7yrs. He does have the tools, regardless what people say.
he definately does
wlad has to get rid of haye early, the longer the fight goes on the more certainty that haye will land
and if haye lands as he can then wlad will go down
still think wlad is the favourite but haye is more than a threat
Re: has wlad run out of promotion ideas?
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erics44
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Mattyhitman
Good points made by both here, but im leaning towards rjj tszyu's comments, also I too believe he has the best chance of beating Wlad than anyone in the past 7yrs. He does have the tools, regardless what people say.
he definately does
wlad has to get rid of haye early, the longer the fight goes on the more certainty that haye will land
and if haye lands as he can then wlad will go down
still think wlad is the favourite but haye is more than a threat
Whats wrong with you today, ya been on the happy pills :confused:
Ya seem to be agreeing with me :-\
Re: has wlad run out of promotion ideas?
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Originally Posted by
Mattyhitman
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Mattyhitman
Good points made by both here, but im leaning towards rjj tszyu's comments, also I too believe he has the best chance of beating Wlad than anyone in the past 7yrs. He does have the tools, regardless what people say.
he definately does
wlad has to get rid of haye early, the longer the fight goes on the more certainty that haye will land
and if haye lands as he can then wlad will go down
still think wlad is the favourite but haye is more than a threat
Whats wrong with you today, ya been on the happy pills :confused:
Ya seem to be agreeing with me :-\
i think we just disagree on issues like bumming and my wifes breakfast making skills :)
