Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
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ross
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Otley
Lewis in his prime beats Mike in his prime. The question here is who did Mike beat in his prime...he never fought any one that was close to a Prime Lewis....all I remember Tyson fighting was against over the hill bums and a blown up Light Heavyweight (WOW).....the first time Tyson fought any one resembling a pure boxer was Buster Douglas and we all know what happened in that fight. Lets face it Mike was well matched in a pretty dire time for good quality heavyweights. Lewis fought everyone in a time where there were more challenges than that of when Tyson fought in his prime.
Tyson would always find it difficult against a tall strong boxer type because Tyson was basically a small mediocre heavyweight with short arms.
Job Biscuit (Lewis wins every time)!!!
eh eh!!
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BIG H
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marbleheadmaui
I have no idea! A tall, long, guy with a questionable chin against a gifted puncher who struggled to maintain distance against tall, long guys and never had a Plan B.
It is an awful matchup for both! :)
Yes, they were both awful fighters :rolleyes:
If they had've been around between 1880 and 1960 you would be all over them like a fat kid with cake ;)
And totally agree with the guys that said Lewis didn't have a questionable chin. George t Oliver McCall would've gone down from the Rahman punch ;)
You sound like Amir Kahns old man about the Prescott fight!
So all the fighters that beat Rahman had a better chin than George Chuvalo? Hhaha!
Lewis never had a dominant period, he was gegting gift decisions v Mercer and looked shite v Akinwande and Mavrovic. He drew with Bolyfield because he was too scared to engage and got a shite decision against Holyfield because he was too scaredtoexchange and at the very height of his fame, he got proper sparked out cold by Rahman. What a joke!
Congratulations on the wankest post in the past 5 years ;)
I said "THAT PUNCH" from Rahman would've floored McCall or Chuvalho and I stand by that. It was the best punch the guy ever threw and connected right on the sweets spot. Nobosy stands up from that punch imo.
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
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Originally Posted by
BIG H
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Otley
Lewis in his prime beats Mike in his prime. The question here is who did Mike beat in his prime...he never fought any one that was close to a Prime Lewis....all I remember Tyson fighting was against over the hill bums and a blown up Light Heavyweight (WOW).....the first time Tyson fought any one resembling a pure boxer was Buster Douglas and we all know what happened in that fight. Lets face it Mike was well matched in a pretty dire time for good quality heavyweights. Lewis fought everyone in a time where there were more challenges than that of when Tyson fought in his prime.
Tyson would always find it difficult against a tall strong boxer type because Tyson was basically a small mediocre heavyweight with short arms.
Job Biscuit (Lewis wins every time)!!!
eh eh!!
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Originally Posted by
BIG H
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
I have no idea! A tall, long, guy with a questionable chin against a gifted puncher who struggled to maintain distance against tall, long guys and never had a Plan B.
It is an awful matchup for both! :)
Yes, they were both awful fighters :rolleyes:
If they had've been around between 1880 and 1960 you would be all over them like a fat kid with cake ;)
And totally agree with the guys that said Lewis didn't have a questionable chin. George t Oliver McCall would've gone down from the Rahman punch ;)
You sound like Amir Kahns old man about the Prescott fight!
So all the fighters that beat Rahman had a better chin than George Chuvalo? Hhaha!
Lewis never had a dominant period, he was gegting gift decisions v Mercer and looked shite v Akinwande and Mavrovic. He drew with Bolyfield because he was too scared to engage and got a shite decision against Holyfield because he was too scaredtoexchange and at the very height of his fame, he got proper sparked out cold by Rahman. What a joke!
Congratulations on the wankest post in the past 5 years ;)
I said "THAT PUNCH" from Rahman would've floored McCall or Chuvalho and I stand by that. It was the best punch the guy ever threw and connected right on the sweets spot. Nobosy stands up from that punch imo.
Yeah, not even Ali who took flush shots from Foreman, Frazier and Shavers;D
Oh but you mean that one single hardest ever thrown punch in the history of boxing;D
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
BIG H
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Otley
Lewis in his prime beats Mike in his prime. The question here is who did Mike beat in his prime...he never fought any one that was close to a Prime Lewis....all I remember Tyson fighting was against over the hill bums and a blown up Light Heavyweight (WOW).....the first time Tyson fought any one resembling a pure boxer was Buster Douglas and we all know what happened in that fight. Lets face it Mike was well matched in a pretty dire time for good quality heavyweights. Lewis fought everyone in a time where there were more challenges than that of when Tyson fought in his prime.
Tyson would always find it difficult against a tall strong boxer type because Tyson was basically a small mediocre heavyweight with short arms.
Job Biscuit (Lewis wins every time)!!!
eh eh!!
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Originally Posted by
BIG H
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
I have no idea! A tall, long, guy with a questionable chin against a gifted puncher who struggled to maintain distance against tall, long guys and never had a Plan B.
It is an awful matchup for both! :)
Yes, they were both awful fighters :rolleyes:
If they had've been around between 1880 and 1960 you would be all over them like a fat kid with cake ;)
And totally agree with the guys that said Lewis didn't have a questionable chin. George t Oliver McCall would've gone down from the Rahman punch ;)
You sound like Amir Kahns old man about the Prescott fight!
So all the fighters that beat Rahman had a better chin than George Chuvalo? Hhaha!
Lewis never had a dominant period, he was gegting gift decisions v Mercer and looked shite v Akinwande and Mavrovic. He drew with Bolyfield because he was too scared to engage and got a shite decision against Holyfield because he was too scaredtoexchange and at the very height of his fame, he got proper sparked out cold by Rahman. What a joke!
Congratulations on the wankest post in the past 5 years ;)
I said "THAT PUNCH" from Rahman would've floored McCall or Chuvalho and I stand by that. It was the best punch the guy ever threw and connected right on the sweets spot. Nobosy stands up from that punch imo.
Yeah, not even Ali who took flush shots from Foreman, Frazier and Shavers;D
Oh but you mean that one single hardest ever thrown punch in the history of boxing;D
Tell me a punch that hard, that landed where that one did and the other guy stood up. Foreman, Frazier nor Shavers hit Ali with a shot on the button like that. Shavers hit Holmes with one and guess what Holmes went down.
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
Fraiser landed a knock out left hook on Ali in the last round of their first fight and ali got up. Shavers landed a moster punch against Holmes and Larry got up. Hell Larry got up from Tyson's right hand.
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
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Originally Posted by
Master
Fraiser landed a knock out left hook on Ali in the last round of their first fight and ali got up. Shavers landed a moster punch against Holmes and Larry got up. Hell Larry got up from Tyson's right hand.
But they went down ;)
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think this is an interesting matchup. Obviously the Tyson/Lewis that we saw was a joke fight and had no particular meaning outside of the gullible and the ego of Lennox Lewis, but imagine if these two could have squared up in their seeming primes. I am not convinced I have the prime of Lewis nailed as I have never really enjoyed his fights, but it was around this time that he was racking up the wins and was seemingly on a roll.
Personally, I think the young Tyson steamrollers him and knocks him unconscious in about 3 rounds. Lewis wouldn't be able to tame the ferocity that would be coming at him and his chin would not stand up to the ferocity of Mike Tyson for too long. The grappling and holding that Lewis eventually used against Tyson would not have worked because the young Tyson would have landed 5 before the grapple became effective. Tyson was done after 1 and had forgotten how to move his head in 2002. 1988 was a different Tyson and different world.
I think Lewis would have been slaughtered in brutal fashion.
Who you got?
I think prime lewis would have found a way. He'd got tyson passed the 4th then worn him down.
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
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Originally Posted by
BIG H
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
BIG H
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Otley
Lewis in his prime beats Mike in his prime. The question here is who did Mike beat in his prime...he never fought any one that was close to a Prime Lewis....all I remember Tyson fighting was against over the hill bums and a blown up Light Heavyweight (WOW).....the first time Tyson fought any one resembling a pure boxer was Buster Douglas and we all know what happened in that fight. Lets face it Mike was well matched in a pretty dire time for good quality heavyweights. Lewis fought everyone in a time where there were more challenges than that of when Tyson fought in his prime.
Tyson would always find it difficult against a tall strong boxer type because Tyson was basically a small mediocre heavyweight with short arms.
Job Biscuit (Lewis wins every time)!!!
eh eh!!
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Originally Posted by
BIG H
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
I have no idea! A tall, long, guy with a questionable chin against a gifted puncher who struggled to maintain distance against tall, long guys and never had a Plan B.
It is an awful matchup for both! :)
Yes, they were both awful fighters :rolleyes:
If they had've been around between 1880 and 1960 you would be all over them like a fat kid with cake ;)
And totally agree with the guys that said Lewis didn't have a questionable chin. George t Oliver McCall would've gone down from the Rahman punch ;)
You sound like Amir Kahns old man about the Prescott fight!
So all the fighters that beat Rahman had a better chin than George Chuvalo? Hhaha!
Lewis never had a dominant period, he was gegting gift decisions v Mercer and looked shite v Akinwande and Mavrovic. He drew with Bolyfield because he was too scared to engage and got a shite decision against Holyfield because he was too scaredtoexchange and at the very height of his fame, he got proper sparked out cold by Rahman. What a joke!
Congratulations on the wankest post in the past 5 years ;)
I said "THAT PUNCH" from Rahman would've floored McCall or Chuvalho and I stand by that. It was the best punch the guy ever threw and connected right on the sweets spot. Nobosy stands up from that punch imo.
Yeah, not even Ali who took flush shots from Foreman, Frazier and Shavers;D
Oh but you mean that one single hardest ever thrown punch in the history of boxing;D
Tell me a punch that hard, that landed where that one did and the other guy stood up. Foreman, Frazier nor Shavers hit Ali with a shot on the button like that. Shavers hit Holmes with one and guess what Holmes went down.
Yea but the difference is Earnie Shavers, is considered one of the hardest hitting Heavyweight's of all time. And that shot was right on the button, and Larry Holmes got up within 4 seconds then beat the crap out of Earnie Shavers.
I remember Jimmy Young taking a great left hook, from George Foreman in the 7th round of there fight. And despite being slightly wobbled took it great.
Also while having a breakdown, Oliver McCall took flush right hands from Lennox Lewis without blinking ;)
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
The old Tyson I saw in 1988 would obliterate Lewis of 1999. :cool:
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
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brucelee
The old Tyson I saw in 1988 would obliterate Lewis of 1999. :cool:
The way Mercer bullied Lewis around and the way Lewis fought scared against Holyfield deffinitly makes me think Tysons skill and speed would have been too much for Lewis.
Theres too many young fans on here that dont remember how good Mike was. Its all bullshit nowadays about how Mike got found out. He didnt get found out at all. Unless Douglas was better than Spinks, Holmes and Tucker?
Mike had a very noticable and rapid decline in skills when he left Rooney. The Tyson from 88 was awesome.
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
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Originally Posted by
ross
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brucelee
The old Tyson I saw in 1988 would obliterate Lewis of 1999. :cool:
The way Mercer bullied Lewis around and the way Lewis fought scared against Holyfield deffinitly makes me think Tysons skill and speed would have been too much for Lewis.
Theres too many young fans on here that dont remember how good Mike was. Its all bullshit nowadays about how Mike got found out. He didnt get found out at all. Unless Douglas was better than Spinks, Holmes and Tucker?
Mike had a very noticable and rapid decline in skills when he left Rooney. The Tyson from 88 was awesome.
Your not trying to claim Holmes was in his prime for that fight are you?
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
Lewis was scared in the Holyfield fight???! what Utter rubbish, Holyfield was the one who did not want to get hit flush by Lewis and fought two defensive fights staying in close not wanting to be hit from long range.
Mike was nocking everyone out in 1988 sure, I've seen all of Mikes fights, and I see Lewis winning 60% of the time if they fought. When ever anyone tied up Mike, punched him back, was not scared by his bullyboy tactics. Mike lost heart, and I think the punching power of lewis would have broke Mikes heart and focus.
The victories over Holmes and tucker were hardly impressive either, Holmes was ring rusty and old. Michael spinks is the only one that is impressive out of the three really.
I think you really have somthing against Lewis Ross, you're not that Cowardzage person off youtube are you?
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
Lewis wins hands up.
Lewis size mixed with the Kronk Style is one of the worst thing ever for Mike. I could see Lewis frustrating him with his piston like jab and grabbing him when Tyson would be able to close the distance,doing so for 4-5 rounds (as Tyson was known to spend a lot of gaz and to fade a bit passed the fifth) and then mixing up the jab with even more power shots. It would be a very interesting match up and the HW division being the HW, one punch can make all the difference, sure Tyson could technically have"some chance" but I really believe that LEwis would win this one in a dominating fashion, especially because not only did he have a better technique and a better size but was much smarter and able to adapt in the ring than Tyson.
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
Your not trying to claim Holmes was in his prime for that fight are you?
That same Holmes that Mike wiped the floor with beat Mercer 4 years later, the same fighter who Lewis got a gift decision against;D
Holmes also fought McCall and pushed him close and also didnt get knocked out like Lewis just had;D
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Mctaggert
Lewis was scared in the Holyfield fight???! what Utter rubbish.
The victories over Holmes and tucker were hardly impressive either, Holmes was ring rusty and old. Michael spinks is the only one that is impressive out of the three really.
I think you really have somthing against Lewis Ross, you're not that Cowardzage person off youtube are you?
In the 5th round I think it was, Lewis had Holyfield hurt but didnt have the balls to go in and finish it.
Tucker is an impressive win. He was an undefeated defending champ. Just because I can see that Mike Tyson of 88 has a hell of lot better chance against a fighter called Lennox Lewis than anyone else is willing to give him credit for. That means I have something against him?
After taking people to court to get fights, he accepts money to not fight for a title. He didnt want it until Mike said he was retired.
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
Tyson beat an undefeated Tucker comfortably on points, Tucker landed an uppercut in the first round and then he could do very little afterwards except take the bombs from Tyson. Lewis was very cautious by nature and I believe he would have tried to out box Tyson from distance and hold when Tyson got in close. Tyson would have been too aggressive for him and whilst I think Lewis would survive to see the bell because of his ring experience he would lose a decision in similar fashion to Tucker.
Re: Tyson of 1988 versus Lewis of 1999
I think Lewis power might of stopped Tyson in its tracks Lewis was a hard hitting dude.
