Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
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Master
Floyd is a quality boxer who is the only boxer at welter who could possibly beat Manny Pac. However the longer he stays out the ring, and older he gets the less chance he has of winning the fight and people caring. The only reason his stock rises is because Manny is dominate over his opponents that he is clearing the division and challengers, so naturally we all ask about Floyd.
Floyd is definitely not a star PPV attraction or world wide celebrity, over in the UK at least. If he fights we will all watch if he does not then we will not really care. He is not worth the gross amounts of money people are quoting but sadly I think he loves his unbeaten record too much to risk the fight.
What are you on about Master? Did you see when 5000 people turned up to his workout in east London on 3 days' notice? I can tell you that at least with the black community over here, he's a huge star. I'd argue of active fighters, only Haye & maybe Khan are bigger over here.
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
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JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Master
Floyd is a quality boxer who is the only boxer at welter who could possibly beat Manny Pac. However the longer he stays out the ring, and older he gets the less chance he has of winning the fight and people caring. The only reason his stock rises is because Manny is dominate over his opponents that he is clearing the division and challengers, so naturally we all ask about Floyd.
Floyd is definitely not a star PPV attraction or world wide celebrity, over in the UK at least. If he fights we will all watch if he does not then we will not really care. He is not worth the gross amounts of money people are quoting but sadly I think he loves his unbeaten record too much to risk the fight.
What are you on about Master? Did you see when 5000 people turned up to his workout in east London on 3 days' notice? I can tell you that at least with the black community over here, he's a huge star. I'd argue of active fighters, only Haye & maybe Khan are bigger over here.
That may be more to do with Hatton fight than Floyd himself and i think Pac Man may be bigger over here.
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
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Master
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JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Master
Floyd is a quality boxer who is the only boxer at welter who could possibly beat Manny Pac. However the longer he stays out the ring, and older he gets the less chance he has of winning the fight and people caring. The only reason his stock rises is because Manny is dominate over his opponents that he is clearing the division and challengers, so naturally we all ask about Floyd.
Floyd is definitely not a star PPV attraction or world wide celebrity, over in the UK at least. If he fights we will all watch if he does not then we will not really care. He is not worth the gross amounts of money people are quoting but sadly I think he loves his unbeaten record too much to risk the fight.
What are you on about Master? Did you see when 5000 people turned up to his workout in east London on 3 days' notice? I can tell you that at least with the black community over here, he's a huge star. I'd argue of active fighters, only Haye & maybe Khan are bigger over here.
That may be more to do with Hatton fight than Floyd himself and i think Pac Man may be bigger over here.
I definitely disagree with that. I agree that Hatton part played a fight, but 1.4m people watched that over here, so he will have picked up fans. Less than 400,000 watched the Pac fight. I'd definitely say Floyd is bigger, I mean 5000 people don't turn up to see somebody they've got no interest in, I was there & it was all fans.
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
Floyd is boring .:chick07mj8:
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
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boxingbantz
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Mr140
Mans already a atg undefeated with a good list of names on his resume and is rich i could care less.
So you care quite a lot then?
"I couldn't care less" is the appropriate phrase. ;)
LOL I've tried beating that drum here in the past.... Unfortunately the use of "could" care less is too ingrained in the American culture for either of us to have any impact..
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
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roberto duran legend
Mayweather cares about mayweather, this guy does not give a shit about our sport, I for one dont really cares what he does anymore , because he certainly does,nt represent boxing the way a so called legend should. All he does is fight small fighters , and slag off true legends , like SRL ,he could learn a thing or two from great fighters like SRL ,1 fight great fighters 2 beat great fighters 3help spread the word of our sport by actually fighting once a year .
Fair enough that you have a point of view ...... but all boxers are in the sport for themselves, it's not a team game and the sport has left enough penniless brain-damaged wrecks in it's wake over the years.
I rate Mayweather as a fighter (and he is no worse a human being than many footballers, NBA players, baseball people and other sportmen) ans think he would probably have been competitive with any welterweight that ever stepped into the ring.
I'm not sure about your comparison with Ray Leonard though - I recall leonard turning pro for mega-money, picking his opponents very carefully on the way up, retiring and unretiring exactly the same way that Mayweather has been doing, and then returning for 'one off spectaculars' that he didnlt deserve given his inactivity and ranking. Leonard was a great fighter, but I think Mayweather is too.
Fighting Hearns for the first time was arguably the only real fighters risk he took. He denied him a rematch until Tommy was shot, Duran was moving up a weight and you would usually expect a good big un to beat a good little un, Hagler was on the slide and the decision was controversial! Fighting Ortiz seems a bigger challenge than coming back and getting knocked down by Kevin Howard!! (I think that was the guy?
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Mars_ax
Personally I could give a flying fuck less if this clown ever fights Pacquiao or anyone else. Do boxing a favor, leave and don't let the door hit you on your ass on the way out, good riddance.
About the way I feel about it.
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JazMerkin
What are you on about Master? Did you see when 5000 people turned up to his workout in east London on 3 days' notice?
Was you there Jaz?
That was sick, 18 months after he destroyed Ricky Hatton, we were all sining ''There's only one Mayweather''..... I felt a little bit guilty :)
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
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Jody Lane
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Mars_ax
Personally I could give a flying fuck less if this clown ever fights Pacquiao or anyone else. Do boxing a favor, leave and don't let the door hit you on your ass on the way out, good riddance.
About the way I feel about it.
I don't know if it's true, but I just read that Mayweather is getting $40 mil to fight Ortiz in September, so someone must love this gutless sack of shit, it sure as hell ain't me, I wouldn't pay 10 cents to see one of this clown's PPVs.
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
Of course I want to see him fight again. IMO he is the most talented BOXER alive today!
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
I feel pretty ambivalent about Mayweather.
On one hand, he's a fantastic boxer - skill-wise he is among the all time greatest - and I think he adds a lot to the sport. On the other hand, I feel like he has largely squandered his legacy over the last couple of years to the point where he will be one of those fighters we look back at and say 'what if...?'.
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
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CFH
I feel pretty ambivalent about Mayweather.
On one hand, he's a fantastic boxer - skill-wise he is among the all time greatest - and I think he adds a lot to the sport. On the other hand, I feel like he has largely squandered his legacy over the last couple of years to the point where he will be one of those fighters we look back at and say 'what if...?'.
Unless he mans up and quits ducking Pacquiao he'll not only be remembered as a "'what if...?'", but I would imagine he would be unpopular with fans, viewed with contempt, and booed if he showed up at boxing events.
As for him adding to the sport of boxing, there's no doubt he does generate interest and has his share of fans, but I ain't one of them, i'd rather watch FNF than one of Mayweather's PPV snoozers.
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Dizaster
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boxingbantz
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Mr140
Mans already a atg undefeated with a good list of names on his resume and is rich i could care less.
So you care quite a lot then?
"I couldn't care less" is the appropriate phrase. ;)
LOL I've tried beating that drum here in the past....
Unfortunately the use of "could" care less is too ingrained in the American culture for either of us to have any impact..
You gotta remember, some of us yanks ain't too bright. :teacher: