Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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I don't think that Manny cares about what Haye will try, it's all about what Wlad has to do in order to keep Haye at bay and to mash him down; piston jabs, when it connects, unload the big hand, Haye gets too close? uppercut or Grab, loop and repeat.
Right, Wlad just needs to keep doing more of what he's been successful doing. Haye's "wishful thinking" fans believe Haye is just going to unload on Wlad like he did that talentless, punching bag, Audley, but it ain't gonna happen.
I think Haye and Booth are just trying to derail Wlad from his game plan, to sow some doubt in his mind because they know that Wlad has all the tools and advantages to cause problems to Haye; Advantage in reach, size, power and technique, that is a huge challenge for Haye just here.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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erics44
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Mars_ax
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erics44
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Mars_ax
Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.
So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?
Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too :)
I'm not saying that Haye,
can't hurt Wlad, i'm saying he won't be able to, he'll be too busy running and getting pummeled to throw many effective punches of his own. These days, Wlad's chin is not nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be, Haye would need to land more then just a few big shots to take Wlad out, and that ain't gonna happen.
And yes, I definately know how to hurt Wlad, just take his Michael Jackson CD's away..:(
no you wasnt saying that
you said hayes power is overrated at hw so his power isnt an issue for wlad
make your mind up dude
I'm saying both, Haye's power is overrated at HW and the power he does have, isn't an issue for Wlad because Haye won't be able to use it effectively. You're just nitpicking, is this your best argument? Instead finding "flaws" in my posts, why don't explain why you believe your boyfriend Haye is going to pull off a fucking miracle July 2nd. :)
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?
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What the hell are you watching? The whole boxing world knows that Valuev was hurt no one slips around like that, he isn't on an ice rink! I'm not trying to make an argument for you to reply to. What would be the point all its going to be is hate for David Haye and i can go read that on the internet without writing a huge essay to continue the argument.
They do? I guess you must speak for the whole boxing world. :) nice to know.
Quit acting like a douche, and can the fucking "hate for David Haye" bullshit, we're talking about boxing here, this ain't cricket or tennis OK?
If Valuev was so "badly hurt", like some of you seem to think he was, and not just knocked off balance for a few seconds, why did he seem so unfazed, steady on his feet and start backing Haye up 10 seconds after it happened? Is that how someone "badly hurt" reacts, I think not. :)
Haye's fans in the crowd, and the announcers start pissing themselves and getting hysterical, because they assumed Valuev was "badly hurt", but he really wasn't, he's just a lumbering Ox with shit for balance.
It would be interesting to hear what Valuev had to say about about the 12th round and the punch.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Nameless
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Mars_ax
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Nameless
I don't think that Manny cares about what Haye will try, it's all about what Wlad has to do in order to keep Haye at bay and to mash him down; piston jabs, when it connects, unload the big hand, Haye gets too close? uppercut or Grab, loop and repeat.
Right, Wlad just needs to keep doing more of what he's been successful doing. Haye's "wishful thinking" fans believe Haye is just going to unload on Wlad like he did that talentless, punching bag, Audley, but it ain't gonna happen.
I think Haye and Booth are just trying to derail Wlad from his game plan, to sow some doubt in his mind because they know that Wlad has all the tools and advantages to cause problems to Haye; Advantage in reach, size, power and technique, that is a huge challenge for Haye just here.
I have no doubt that Haye will have some tricks up sleeve, the thing is Wlad has been there done that, Haye's mind games won't mean jack shit come fight night.
I'd like to see Wlad turn up the heat on Haye right from the opening bell, put the pressure on, take Haye out of his game plan, and let this clown know he's there to to fuck him up.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
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erics44
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Mars_ax
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.
So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?
Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too :)
I'm not saying that Haye,
can't hurt Wlad, i'm saying he won't be able to, he'll be too busy running and getting pummeled to throw many effective punches of his own. These days, Wlad's chin is not nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be, Haye would need to land more then just a few big shots to take Wlad out, and that ain't gonna happen.
And yes, I definately know how to hurt Wlad, just take his Michael Jackson CD's away..:(
no you wasnt saying that
you said hayes power is overrated at hw so his power isnt an issue for wlad
make your mind up dude
I'm saying both, Haye's power is overrated at HW and the power he does have, isn't an issue for Wlad because Haye won't be able to use it effectively. You're just nitpicking, is this your best argument? Instead finding "flaws" in my posts, why don't explain why you believe your boyfriend Haye is going to pull off a fucking miracle July 2nd. :)
:) are you sure you havent changed your story?
and i am glad you have asked me that question
just this moring i have been watching wlads fights on you tube, yes he hasnt been down since peter 1 but every single time without fail that any punch has gone anywhere near his chin he has looked shakey.
and looking at some of the times he has been Knocked down punches have hardly landed, and looking through his record since peter 1 haye has by far the best combination of power and speed out of all his opponents, by a long long way
my opinion was always wlad was favourite, but the more i watch him fight the more confident i am of haye winning, in fact i would say its a 50/50 fight now
p.s. when reading through both our posts on the subject mine are much more objective considering strengths and weeknesses of both fighters whilst yours heavily favour wlads strengths and hayes weeknesses, so if anyones anyones boyfriend i would say you are well loved up in with the big klit, second only to the love struck lyle :)
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
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Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?
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What the hell are you watching? The whole boxing world knows that Valuev was hurt no one slips around like that, he isn't on an ice rink! I'm not trying to make an argument for you to reply to. What would be the point all its going to be is hate for David Haye and i can go read that on the internet without writing a huge essay to continue the argument.
They do? I guess you must speak for the whole boxing world. :) nice to know.
Quit acting like a douche, and
can the fucking "hate for David Haye" bullshit, we're talking about boxing here, this ain't cricket or tennis OK?
If Valuev was so "badly hurt", like some of you seem to think he was, and not just knocked off balance for a few seconds, why did he seem so unfazed, steady on his feet and start backing Haye up 10 seconds after it happened? Is that how someone "badly hurt" reacts, I think not. :)
Haye's fans in the crowd, and the announcers start pissing themselves and getting hysterical, because they assumed Valuev was "badly hurt", but he really wasn't, he's just a lumbering Ox with shit for balance.
It would be interesting to hear what Valuev had to say about about the 12th round and the punch.
valuev did a funny little dance, haye hurt him
wlad never knocked down sam peter tho in their last fight, peter just felt a bit bored, is that how someone who is knocked down reacts? i think not, all he did was lie on the floor in the ring
he got up several minutes later and looked steady on his feet
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
I think Haye and Booth are just trying to derail Wlad from his game plan, to sow some doubt in his mind because they know that Wlad has all the tools and advantages to cause problems to Haye; Advantage in reach, size, power and technique, that is a huge challenge for Haye just here.
I have no doubt that Haye will have some tricks up sleeve, the thing is Wlad has been there done that, Haye's mind games won't mean jack shit come fight night.
I'd like to see Wlad turn up the heat on Haye right from the opening bell, put the pressure on, take Haye out of his game plan, and let this clown know he's there to to fuck him up.[/QUOTE]
That made me chuckle. That is exactly what Wlad is going to do.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
Maybe haye will pull out a gun and shoot wlad at the opening bell.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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boxingbantz
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Mars_ax
I think Haye and Booth are just trying to derail Wlad from his game plan, to sow some doubt in his mind because they know that Wlad has all the tools and advantages to cause problems to Haye; Advantage in reach, size, power and technique, that is a huge challenge for Haye just here.
I have no doubt that Haye will have some tricks up sleeve, the thing is Wlad has been there done that, Haye's mind games won't mean jack shit come fight night.
I'd like to see Wlad turn up the heat on Haye right from the opening bell, put the pressure on, take Haye out of
his game plan, and let this clown know he's there to to fuck him up.
That made me chuckle. That is exactly what Wlad is going to do.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, now that's 2 experts who know exactly how the fight will play out ;)
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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ninjaspy3
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boxingbantz
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Mars_ax
I think Haye and Booth are just trying to derail Wlad from his game plan, to sow some doubt in his mind because they know that Wlad has all the tools and advantages to cause problems to Haye; Advantage in reach, size, power and technique, that is a huge challenge for Haye just here.
I have no doubt that Haye will have some tricks up sleeve, the thing is Wlad has been there done that, Haye's mind games won't mean jack shit come fight night.
I'd like to see Wlad turn up the heat on Haye right from the opening bell, put the pressure on, take Haye out of
his game plan, and let this clown know he's there to to fuck him up.
That made me chuckle. That is exactly what Wlad is going to do.
Ahh, now that's 2 experts who know exactly how the fight will play out ;)[/QUOTE]
:)
who do you think will win fella?
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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erics44
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ninjaspy3
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boxingbantz
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Mars_ax
I think Haye and Booth are just trying to derail Wlad from his game plan, to sow some doubt in his mind because they know that Wlad has all the tools and advantages to cause problems to Haye; Advantage in reach, size, power and technique, that is a huge challenge for Haye just here.
I have no doubt that Haye will have some tricks up sleeve, the thing is Wlad has been there done that, Haye's mind games won't mean jack shit come fight night.
I'd like to see Wlad turn up the heat on Haye right from the opening bell, put the pressure on, take Haye out of
his game plan, and let this clown know he's there to to fuck him up.
That made me chuckle. That is exactly what Wlad is going to do.
Ahh, now that's 2 experts who know exactly how the fight will play out ;)
:)
who do you think will win fella?[/QUOTE]
Well, I give the advantage to Wlad, but I would rather he not win again for the simple fact that I'm bored with that outcome.
I think Haye is capable of pulling it off if he plays his cards right.
Plus that would be exciting, and it would be comedy central on this forum afterwards. :)
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
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ninjaspy3
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Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
Mars-
Just because You see it that way doesnt make it fact. And your views on haye seem as warped (negatively) as those of his fans which you accuse. I now hope haye wins because it would be great to see how your reaction after the constant hating.
What's "warped" is the way that Haye has been over-rated and over-hyped by himself and by the Brit media. This isn't about "hate", i'm just being objective about your boy, some of you could use a reality check.
BTW, if it turns out that i'm wrong about Haye, it's no skin off my ass, and it won't be my first "crow buffet". I give my opinion about fights and fighters, and will admit when i'm wrong, i'll be back here July 3rd, to man up and take my medicine. :)
I don't know if you noticed that Ninja is German? He's hardly getting caught up in a wave of patriotic fervour in that case :-X
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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:) are you sure you havent changed your story?
and i am glad you have asked me that question
just this moring i have been watching wlads fights on you tube, yes he hasnt been down since peter 1 but every single time without fail that any punch has gone anywhere near his chin he has looked shakey.
and looking at some of the times he has been Knocked down punches have hardly landed, and looking through his record since peter 1 haye has by far the best combination of power and speed out of all his opponents, by a long long way
my opinion was always wlad was favourite, but the more i watch him fight the more confident i am of haye winning, in fact i would say its a 50/50 fight now
p.s. when reading through both our posts on the subject mine are much more objective considering strengths and weeknesses of both fighters whilst yours heavily favour wlads strengths and hayes weeknesses, so if anyones anyones boyfriend i would say you are well loved up in with the big klit, second only to the love struck lyle :)
It would be foolish for me to say that Haye has no chance of winning, because he does, about the same chance as winning the lottery.
I like Wlad well enough, if he clowns Haye, (like he should) i'll like him even more, but I really prefer watching guys like Martinez, Donaire, and Pac to name a few.
cheers
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
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Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?
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What the hell are you watching? The whole boxing world knows that Valuev was hurt no one slips around like that, he isn't on an ice rink! I'm not trying to make an argument for you to reply to. What would be the point all its going to be is hate for David Haye and i can go read that on the internet without writing a huge essay to continue the argument.
They do? I guess you must speak for the whole boxing world. :) nice to know.
Quit acting like a douche, and
can the fucking "hate for David Haye" bullshit, we're talking about boxing here, this ain't cricket or tennis OK?
If Valuev was so "badly hurt", like
some of you seem to think he was, and not just knocked off balance for a few seconds, why did he seem so unfazed, steady on his feet and start backing Haye up 10 seconds after it happened?
Is that how someone "badly hurt" reacts, I think not. :)
Haye's fans in the crowd, and the announcers start pissing themselves and getting hysterical, because they assumed Valuev was "badly hurt", but he really wasn't,
he's just a lumbering Ox with shit for balance.
It would be interesting to hear what Valuev had to say about about the 12th round and the punch.
'Some' of us would be more than just you and your idea that he wasn't hurt.
Ever heard of 'dangerous when hurt' yeah happens a lot in boxing you should probably...watch some fights.
We saw him lose his balance that whole fight i thought he was brake dancing! Oh wait no that was just when Haye caught him! he was flat footed for the whole fight its hard to stumble when your like that.
When your quite finished :bananasex: with Wladimir we will welcome you back to the real world.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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JazMerkin
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Mars_ax
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Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
Mars-
Just because You see it that way doesnt make it fact. And your views on haye seem as warped (negatively) as those of his fans which you accuse. I now hope haye wins because it would be great to see how your reaction after the constant hating.
What's "warped" is the way that Haye has been over-rated and over-hyped by himself and by the Brit media. This isn't about "hate", i'm just being objective about your boy, some of you could use a reality check.
BTW, if it turns out that i'm wrong about Haye, it's no skin off my ass, and it won't be my first "crow buffet". I give my opinion about fights and fighters, and will admit when i'm wrong, i'll be back here July 3rd, to man up and take my medicine. :)
I don't know if you noticed that Ninja is German? He's hardly getting caught up in a wave of patriotic fervour in that case :-X
True, but he says he wants Haye to win, that's similar to say, me an American, wanting Pacquiao to defeat Duckweather.
