Re: Currently, who is the most protected fighter (e.g. someone like Sven Ottke)?
If we're talking currently, then surely Manny Pacquiao?
Sure his opposition hasn't been terrible but he has other forms of protection such as "catchweights" and fighting leftovers.
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Carl Froch
And if you think I'm serious, you don't understand sarcasm :P
youre giving sarcasm a bad name
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Lucian bute.. He needs to be stripped. It's ludacrious.
I don't think you can call a fighter protected when he's faced Sakio Bika, Librado Andrade, and Glen Johnson. None of those guys are a walk in the park.
For a guy who's been a so called champion for nearly 4 years, his resume is a joke and it's not acceptable..
HIs fans would defend his lack of competition by bring up the Super6 but the fact is, he won his title at the end of 07 and the super6 started nearly 2 years later so what was he doing for those 2 years when many top fighters were available? You mean to tell me that he had no choice but to face mandatories for all those years? that's some bullshit.. Lucian Bute is a classic example of a pampered hometown fighter who fights overmatched opponents in his backyard.. He has huge fanbase in canada and sells alot of tickets so he's content on making big bucks in his backyward against nobodies..
So he beat Sakio Bika and Andrade.... and??? they are C level fighters and when you're a champion, you should be fighting guys who are alot better than that..
Lucian Bute has not beaten ONE elite fighter and that's ridiculous.. Might as well throw away that belt..
He's the epitome of a paper champion.. Im not saying that he's not a good fighter because he obviously is.. I like his style but the dude needs to fight someone already.. This bum tour must come to and end...
Glenn Johnson?? OK i guess that's slighter better than the bikas and the Joppys but c'mon.... We all know Johnson is coming in as another handpicked opponent.. It's a gimmie fight..
Just wake me up when Bute gets into an evenly matched up bout..
Who were the fighters that Bute didn't face that you wanted to see him face?
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Humberto Soto - I even like the guy, but it seems he hasn't fought a top name as long as i can remember..
His biggest named opponents:
Antillon - Close bout, but still there is better fights out there...
David Diaz - Nothing to write home about
Joan Guzman - This was back in 2007
This is a good call. Soto hasn't faced anyone super tough and there are plenty of good match-ups around his weight.
Re: Currently, who is the most protected fighter (e.g. someone like Sven Ottke)?
I think Cotto has been since he lost to Pac Man, easy win for the title, easy defence with mayorga. Ok Margarito is hard but this is on the back of 2 big defeats.
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Chris John and Felix Sturm come to mind. Who else is out there?
U can't b serious . Is fighting Juarez in d U.S and being denied of d decision is what u call protected ? or when Sturm had to give his title to DLH so DLH would have had some excuse for a claim (besides money) for d "Ring Mgazine"/lineal/whatever world middleweight title when he challenged Hopkins ?
Anyway , 4 me , d current most protected fighter in d world is Povetkin , but there r many more extremely protected fighters , and 1 would b surprised 2 know that protecting a fighter is an old tradition as d sport itself .
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Chris John and Felix Sturm come to mind. Who else is out there?
U can't b serious . Is fighting Juarez in d U.S and being denied of d decision is what u call protected ? or when Sturm had to give his title to DLH so DLH would have had some excuse for a claim (besides money) for d "Ring Mgazine"/lineal/whatever world middleweight title when he challenged Hopkins ?
Anyway , 4 me , d current most protected fighter in d world is Povetkin , but there r many more extremely protected fighters , and 1 would b surprised 2 know that protecting a fighter is an old tradition as d sport itself .
The operative word was "currently." Chris John is in a division with many top fighters and he's faced 0. His best win in recent years was Rocky Juarez. For a longstanding champion, enough said.
Felix Sturm fought ODLH in 2005, he missed fights with AA, Pavlik, now Martinez. He has avoided many, many challenges.
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Chavez jnr ,this guy is more protected than a baby.:rolleyes:.
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Chavez jnr ,this guy is more protected than a baby.:rolleyes:.
Haha.:) The truth in more ways than one.
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JCC jr?
That was the name that immediately sprang to mind when I saw the title of the thread.
Me too!
But I think Hulk might be on to something :)
Maybe. Here's the guy I'm talking about:
Zsolt Erdei - Boxer
Re: Currently, who is the most protected fighter (e.g. someone like Sven Ottke)?
Is this a serious question?!?!?
Let's see.... how can I put this mildly.....
JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ Jr., of course
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Chris John and Felix Sturm come to mind. Who else is out there?
U can't b serious . Is fighting Juarez in d U.S and being denied of d decision is what u call protected ? or when Sturm had to give his title to DLH so DLH would have had some excuse for a claim (besides money) for d "Ring Mgazine"/lineal/whatever world middleweight title when he challenged Hopkins ?
Anyway , 4 me , d current most protected fighter in d world is Povetkin , but there r many more extremely protected fighters , and 1 would b surprised 2 know that protecting a fighter is an old tradition as d sport itself .
The operative word was "
currently." Chris John is in a division with many top fighters and he's faced 0. His best win in recent years was Rocky Juarez. For a longstanding champion, enough said.
Felix Sturm fought ODLH in 2005, he missed fights with AA, Pavlik, now Martinez. He has avoided many, many challenges.
Regarding Sturm u seem 2 me like correct .
Regarding John , maybe they r ducking him ? just maybe ?
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generalbulldog
JCC jr?
That was the name that immediately sprang to mind when I saw the title of the thread.
Me too!
But I think Hulk might be on to something :)
Maybe. Here's the guy I'm talking about
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Zsolt Erdei - Boxer
I used to berate Zsolt like no other, but then he went up to cruiserweight and beat that Italian guy, I forget his name. Now he literally moved to Philadelphia to break through in the states. He hasn't done it yet, but I'll hold off on criticizing him for the time being for at least making the effort for trying to improve his legacy.
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Rantcatrat
Chris John and Felix Sturm come to mind. Who else is out there?
U can't b serious . Is fighting Juarez in d U.S and being denied of d decision is what u call protected ? or when Sturm had to give his title to DLH so DLH would have had some excuse for a claim (besides money) for d "Ring Mgazine"/lineal/whatever world middleweight title when he challenged Hopkins ?
Anyway , 4 me , d current most protected fighter in d world is Povetkin , but there r many more extremely protected fighters , and 1 would b surprised 2 know that protecting a fighter is an old tradition as d sport itself .
The operative word was "
currently." Chris John is in a division with many top fighters and he's faced 0. His best win in recent years was Rocky Juarez. For a longstanding champion, enough said.
Felix Sturm fought ODLH in 2005, he missed fights with AA, Pavlik, now Martinez. He has avoided many, many challenges.
Regarding Sturm u seem 2 me like correct .
Regarding John , maybe they r ducking him ? just maybe ?
I don't see it that way. Gamboa is the best in the division. There is no doubt about it and before Juanma was shelled by Salido, there were two titans in the division, and John still remained in Indonesia.
